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- From: metares@well.sf.ca.us (Tom Van Flandern)
- Subject: Re: B-O Effect (was Re: Proof of quasar non-locality?)
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- Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 21:01:31 GMT
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- Earlier, I wrote:
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- >> The universe derived by the Meta Model is infinite in five dimensions:
- >> three of space plus time and scale..
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- and dwells@fits.cv.nrao.edu (Don Wells) replied:
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- > Infinite in time means steady-state, i.e. no creation. This is, of course,
- > in contradiction to the B-O Effect, and to a number of other observations,
- > such as radio source counts.
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- Only if they are interpreted with the standard model. If you assume the
- premises of the Meta Model, then you can see whole new meanings to this and
- many other effects which contradict nothing; for example, the two-population
- idea I described earlier.
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- > I reassert: "The B-O objects are unquestionably *galaxies*." That assertion
- > is an observational *fact*, which is why I said "unquestionably". I have
- > personally acquired imagery of the distant clusters, and I can tell you
- > that these objects are *resolved*, they are not point sources as quasars
- > are. Spectra of the B-O objects have been obtained, and they are seen to be
- > similar to spectra of nearby spiral galaxies. The "blue" galaxies of the
- > B-O Effect are not exotic objects which need special explanations, they are
- > merely galaxies which have been forming stars recently.
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- Can you put together an air-tight argument to the effect that most B-O
- objects are galaxies? Their merely being resolved is inconclusive, since
- they might be nebulae around supermassive stars. And some normal galaxies
- are bluer than others. But what is the argument that *most* of the B-O
- objects *must* be galaxies? -|Tom|-
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- Tom Van Flandern / Washington, DC / metares@well.sf.ca.us
- Meta Research was founded to foster research into ideas not otherwise
- supported because they conflict with mainstream theories in Astronomy.
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