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- From: danny@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Danny Faught)
- Subject: Re: Continuing Scouting in college
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- Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:45:33 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul30.140354.17807@eng.umd.edu> wayne@eng.umd.edu (Wayne C. McCullough) writes:
- >I did look at APO when I got into college, and It seemed to me that
- >they have driffted quite far from the scouting I was used to. The
- >local chapter (in college park) struck me as a social organizeation
- >more than anything else. I am sure they did service, more than the
- >minimum, but in bulk, they were more concerned about the soical
- >aspects.
- >
- >They also seemed to be very political (as in internal chapter politics,
- >not anyone elses), and I just can't stand that. They did not seem to
- >be the least bit interested in outdoorsmanship.
- >
-
- As some of the other people who have responded to this post have said,
- just as different troops vary widely, so do APO chapters. Unfortunately,
- when a scout decides that he can't stand some of the problems of his
- troop, and there is not another troop nearby, he quits scouting and
- has a bad attitude of scouting in general.
-
- It is unfortunate when the particular APO chapter on your campus is not
- agreeable to you. Some would say you should join anyway and try to make
- the necessary changes, but this is much easier said than done.
-
- My chapter has a very active social program, and some cliques think
- that some of the other cliques concentrate too much on the social
- activities. My solution? If you don't like the parties, then don't
- go.
-
- As far as outdoorsmanship, the few outdoor activities that my chapter
- planned were not well-attended. The primary focus is service, and the
- people that this focues draws are not necessarily outdoorsmen.
-
- And yes, politics runs rampant in my chapter and I do not like it one bit.
-
- >All that, and the $80 anual membership, I chose to stay away.
- >
- Minor point: social fraternities charge upwards of $50 a MONTH, so in
- comparison, APO is a bargain.
-
- In summary, I agree that APO has lost most of its ties to scouting.
- In the past few years, APO's national leadership has recognized this
- problem and has started taking steps to bring APO closer to scouting.
- I do not know how effective this will be.
-
- Regarding the problem of politics, too much attention on social
- activities, no outdoor activities (read: doesn't offer what you
- want to do), is this a problem of APO, or a problem that can
- plaque any organization? My chapter has spent a lot of time
- trying to figure out what we can do to make the members happier,
- but we haven't gotten very far.
-
- Have you been in an organization that has successfully wiped out
- a major social problem, or avoided it altogether? Please elaborate.
- If we can answer this, then we can improve any organization.
-
- To those of you who are still forming your opinion of APO, please
- don't misunderstand me. I am bringing up these problems so they
- can be solved, not to steer you away from APO. I stuck with APO
- through thick and thin, just like I did with scouting. APO is the
- only group that offered an affiliation with scouting that has service
- projects as its main activity (how many scout troops can claim that
- they do an average of 8 service projects a WEEK?). And it kept
- me in a fairly healthy college atmosphere.
-
- In Leadership, Friendship, and Service
-
-
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- Danny Faught danny@ponder.csci.unt.edu
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