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- From: sasafw@dobo.unx.sas.com (Fred Welden)
- Subject: Re: Reserach in Fiction
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- Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:48:45 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul27.004618.14531@octel.com>, shaun@octel.com (Ralph Neutrino) writes:
- |In article <BrqzL9.7pp@unx.sas.com> sasafw@dobo.unx.sas.com (Fred Welden) writes:
- |>So, of course, a story in which someone said "See you in 90 gigametres"
- |>would be a good story if the author had done enough research to know
- |>that this was a legitimate expression, but a bad story if he hadn't.
- |>Or perhaps what we're learning here is that it isn't the scientific
- |>facts that make for a good story, it's the writing.
- |
- |This has been said enough times to finally become annoying. It is difficult
- |for lazy inaccuracies to make a story better. It is easy for them to make
- |it worse. Unless you are clear that you intend to be inaccurate or break
- |physical laws by introducing such elements as FTL drives, magic, or telepathy,
- |you run the risk of breaking the reader's willing suspension of disbelief. If
- |you don't care much about what you write, or your readers, then by all means,
- |just finish up and start the next piece. However, if you want your work to be
- |more substantial, to be something that part of your audience might want to
- |re-read several times (such as are the Bible, poems, and various prose
- |classics) because there is more than one reading's worth of discoveries to
- |make, then you should go to special pains to make sure your work is accurate
- |within the boundaries you have set for it.
-
- Why is it necessary to your argument to make the assumption that I,
- and the others who argue that extensive research is not necessary to
- good writing, are lazy, shiftless good-for-nothings who will introduce
- obscenely annoying inconsistencies and bogus scientific assumptions
- into everything we produce? Let's look at the Bible: lots of good hard
- scientific research went into writing that, eh? Shakespeare's sonnets?
- The Ramayana? The Iliad, the Aeneid, the Republic? In more modern
- times, what about The Catcher in the Rye, The Sound and the Fury,
- The Alexandria Quartet, A Confederacy of Dunces, or A Prayer for Owen
- Meany?
-
- Isn't it remotely possible that a writer who is both skilled and
- talented in presenting the complex interplay of human emotions could
- produce a work that had more than one reading's worth of discoveries
- without ANY scientific facts whatsoever? Can you say the same of the
- reverse, a story composed entirely of accurate scientific facts without
- any writerly craft whatsoever? Such timeless works as The Periodic
- Table, the Merck Index, and Ionic Equilibrium as Applied to Quantitative
- Analysis leap to mind--could any such work be called fiction, or even
- writing, rather than compilation?
-
- |This is what writer's workshops and
- |editors are for. It is sometimes difficult to obtain good criticism, but no
- |one should expect writing really good or great material to be easy or fast.
-
- I have both heard (from participants) and read (for example, in Harper's
- magazine) the criticism of writer's workshops that they tend to produce
- literary co-dependents: participants emerge writing like the workshop
- writes, not like individuals with different and individual messages
- to communicate. And I believe that one can expect writing really good
- or even great material to take exactly as long as it takes and be
- exactly as hard as it is for each individual: that is, you get no 'A's
- for effort. To some it comes fast and easy. Not me, by the way. My
- best work comes out very slowly, but without strenuous effort.
- Perhaps with greater sweat I could write faster, but I doubt it.
-
- This does not, however, bear on the research question. I find research
- even easier to do than writing. I spent four years of college
- researching some extremely esoteric topics of Greek and Roman
- inscriptions, semantic analysis, and so on, without feeling that I was
- unduly stressing myself. That didn't make the research bad, either.
-
- |I really enjoy the work of Larry Niven, Robert Heinlein, and Orson Scott Card.
- |I have re-read many of their works, sometimes several times, and they bear up
- |well under close scrutiny--not just because the characters, plotting, and
- |descriptions are done well, but because discontinuities, anachronisms, or
- |inaccuracies are very rare or are presented up front as story elements.
-
- I like Niven and Card pretty well, but early on grew disgusted with
- Heinlein's cardboard characters and poorly-crafted dialogue. Even so, I
- don't think you can put these writers in a class with Faulkner, Salinger,
- and Durrell. I find it hard to believe that they would class themselves
- with Faulkner, Salinger, and Durrell.
-
- |Producing good writing is both art and craft. One cannot be simply a good
- |storyteller or a have a good head for facts and details; one needs to be both,
- |(or have literary-minded friends that are. :) ) Personally, I have a lot
- |of material that is almost finished. It needs a tweak here, a new phrase or
- |word here, or another critique or two by someone with a background in a field
- |with which I am not familiar enough. Pieces come out slowly, but when they do,
- |I feel they are finished. Sometimes I'll be working on another piece, or
- |reading a book when just the right word or phrase springs to mind for another
- |piece; similarly I might find out a fact or theory I need while I am working on
- |something completely different. For instance, I was working on a short-short
- |story about cross-cultural cooperation that was simply not working. No matter
- |what I tried, it was sentimental or too verbose or laboriously obvious. I
- |shelved it. About two weeks later, I was singing in my chorus class when it
- |suddenly occurred to me that I could use a 4-part chorus as a vehicle for what
- |I was trying to communicate. I immediately lost my place in the song, but when
- |I got home, I rewrote the whole story (it didn't take long, an advantage to the
- |short-short format,) and left it when I got stuck again. I had to wait several
- |more weeks for an experience with counterpoint and an article on digital sound
- |before I got over the next hump, and now I'm waiting on a problem with a few
- |points of phrasing. It's almost done, I can feel it; when it is finished
- |(now that I'm thinking about it, maybe tonight! :) ) I know that it will be the
- |piece I want, not something dashed off and incomplete, full of inaccuracies
- |and poor syntactical choices. If I hadn't waiting for the knowledge on
- |harmony and sampling to crop up, I feel the work would have been less than
- |worthy of having my name on it. I've shown it to several people, including
- |some long-time singers, and one pointed out what I thought was a small error
- |that my friend assured me was serious. It was easy to fix, though, and I was
- |glad to do it, because I care about my work.
- |
- |In short, saying "It isn't the scientific facts that make for a good story,
- |it's the writing," is wrong. Accurate scientific facts are part of the writing
- |that make up a good story. How much do you care about your writing? If there
- |are economic considerations that make it necessary to skimp on the research or
- |rewrite process, I may understand, but dismissing accuracy as unimportant is as
- |bad as dismissing poor dialogue, out-of-character actions, plot holes, or even
- |poor spelling, grammar, and diction in the final product. I certainly prefer
- |to read good fiction to poor fiction or mediocre fiction.
-
- You give a good example of melding technical fact with real
- story-telling. Certainly good stories come out of specialized
- knowledge, and specialized knowledge is sometimes the result of research.
- (Often it is the result of experience.) But I put it to you that your
- story arose from specialized knowledge--you didn't set out to write
- a story about four-part harmony, digital sampling, and so on--you
- learned about those things, and they inspired aspects of your story.
- If your story was a piss-poor effort before getting the facts right,
- getting the facts right wasn't going to save it. If your story was a
- paragon of stroy-telling before getting the facts right, certainly
- getting the facts right will increase the size of your appreciative
- audience by some number of folks who would have realized you were wrong
- and lost interest.
-
- I reiterate my original (and more calmly-arrived-at) formulation:
- "research is primarily useful for making the writer comfortable enough
- with what he is saying that he can concentrate on doing good writing."
- Of course, there is much art to realizing when you should be
- uncomfortable. And I resent the implication that is is cheapness,
- laziness, lack of care, or simple dismissal of accuracy that lead me to
- this conclusion. Writing, and reading widely, have led me to it. I
- certainly haven't attributed base motives to you or the others who tout
- research as an absolute necessity--why does this accusation of laziness
- keep coming back at me from that side?
- --
- --Fred, or another blind 8th-century BC | sasafw@dobo.unx.sas.com
- Hellenic poet of the same name. |
-