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- Subject: AF/ATS: interiew with NDF/NPA spokesman
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- Peace Negotiations in the Philippines
-
- A civil war has been fought in the Philippines for the past
- 23 years. The fall of the Marcos dictatorship in 1986 made the
- prospects for peace more likely. But after the recent
- presidential elections, peace now seems more distant than ever.
- Negotiations between the National Democratic Front (NDF) and its
- guerrilla wing, the New People's Army (NPA), were only on the
- campaign platform of one minor candidate.
- After the fall of Marcos and Aquino's take-over of power, a
- series of negotiations in February 1986 led to a cease-fire and
- negotiations between Aquino and the NDF/NPA. But this process
- collapsed on January 22/87, when the Aquino government bloodily
- crushed a protest march by farmers. This attack became known as
- the "Mendiola Massacre". In March of 1987, Aquino declared
- "total-war" on the left-wing resistance movement.
- Since then, the conflict has taken on disastrous
- proportions: there have been over 2 million internal refugees in
- the past 3 years. The murder and disappearance of legal left-wing
- activists have become commonplace. Amnesty International's last
- report from February of this year reported that "the murdering
- continues" in the Philippines. The army and other right-wing
- para-military troops roam freely.
- In 1990, a new movement towards a peace-process developed.
- Church groups and non-governmental organizations took the
- initiative, and in September 1991, there was a meeting in Hong
- Kong between NDF leaders and Philippine army generals. A second
- round of talks scheduled for March of this year in Brussels were
- called off by the government at the last moment. They felt that
- the meeting place (the European Parliament) was "too prominent"
- and would allow the NDF a chance to spread its propaganda. Since
- then, there have been no moves towards scheduling further talks.
- The following in an interview with Byron Bocar, the NDF's
- representative to Western Europe:
-
-
- "The talks in Hong Kong did not result in much, and the talks in
- Brussels never took place. What went wrong?"
-
- The talks in Hong Kong were supposed to discuss respecting
- human rights and applying international laws to a situation of
- armed conflict. In our eyes, this is the first step of the peace-
- process. Normal civilians must be protected. We had proposals
- with us, but the government's delegates had nothing. They didn't
- even have a mandate from the government and so they couldn't sign
- or agree to anything.
- The government felt that the talks would give us
- international status as a party in an armed struggle. We have
- never demanded this status. The Philippine government
- consistently maintains that the Philippine constitution has to be
- the basis of the peace-process, and that's been the biggest
- obstacle so far. That relegates the NDF and the whole national
- democratic struggle to a police matter. That is not acceptable to
- us. The conflict in the Philippines is not a judicial one, but a
- political one. The causes of the conflict have to be settled with
- political measures. Both sides have to be open to this. Only then
- can serious talks begin.
-
- "How do you account for these problems?"
-
- The government doesn't take the negotiations seriously. They
- see the peace-process as a part of their strategy of total-war.
- Aquino used the peace-process in 1986. She used it to get the
- "moral justification" for resulting to a military solution to the
- problem. She vowed to crush the revolutionary movement by the end
- of her term. That's this June. So now she's talking about gaining
- "strategic control" over the revolutionary movement by the end of
- 1993. As long as the government keeps thinking in those terms and
- refuses to work towards a political solution to the conflict, no
- advances can be made in the peace-process.
-
- "Some people claim that the NDF don't take the peace-process
- seriously, but are just using it for tactical gains. Is armed
- struggle still your most important strategy?"
-
- You have to judge the NDF by its deeds. And when you
- consider all the efforts we've made since 1988 to get people at
- the negotiating table, we have to be taken in earnest. Of course
- discussions about where the talks should take place are a part of
- the NDF's overall strategy. But we have stated that we want to
- continue with the peace-process until a political solution is
- reached. We stand by that promise.
-
- "But until then, you'll keep shooting?"
-
- Yes...there can be no cease-fire without a clear proposal
- and time-table for talks. We learned that back in 1986/87. At
- that time, we agreed to a cease-fire before the agenda for the
- talks had been set. But all the government wanted to talk about
- was our surrender. So the armed struggle continues.
-
- "But isn't that an odd combination, peace-negotiations and armed
- struggle?"
-
- In some areas, we have structures in place that have to be
- defended. We have to maintain and expand our strength. That is
- necessary, so that we will be taken seriously at negotiations.
- You could compare this to El Salvador. The peace-process there
- only got underway when the US recognized that the FMLN rebels
- could not be defeated militarily. Even though the far-right
- Christiani was in power...just like here in the Philippines. Some
- members of the government, and especially the military,
- consistently maintain that we have to be crushed militarily.
-
- "Within the NDF, are negotiations viewed as reformist?"
-
- No. The fact that you have built up enough strength and
- organization to force the elite to negotiate about changing the
- fundamental problems affecting the population helps get at the
- roots of the problem. If negotiations lead to this, then we view
- it as part of the revolutionary process. What's more, the peace
- movement in the Philippines realizes that peace means more than
- just the absence of war. We have to find solutions to the
- problems which cause the conflict.
-
- "Can this be compared to El Salvador?"
-
- The process that we are involved in is much like it was in
- El Salvador, but the eventual content will be decided by the
- negotiations themselves. We won't lay down our weapons before
- there is complete agreement on social, economic, and political
- reforms.
-
- "Did the FMLN give up on too many of its demands?"
-
- In many ways, their agenda didn't differ from ours. But we
- disagree on the end result. Many of us feel that they gave more
- than they got.
-
- "Can you be more concrete? Will industries be nationalized?"
-
- I don't know. But one point is the dismantling of the
- guerilla-army. It seems that the FMLN agreed to leave the
- government's army intact, more so than they wanted, while their
- forces would be incorporated into the police. As for the other
- reforms, there still have to be a number of constitutional
- changes. Some people doubt whether there have been enough
- guarantees secured of actual reforms. The FMLN have said that the
- people are their best guarantee, and international
- solidarity...The discussions are still taking place. We will have
- to examine the specific advantages and disadvantages of the
- actual accord. As for the Philippines, that will depend on the
- balance of power.
-
- "What role do elections play in your strategy?"
-
- We naturally don't take part, but we do view them as
- strategically important. We encourage the progressive
- organizations to take part and support progressive candidates.
- Everything we win in the elections is gladly taken, but elections
- are not as important as building peoples-organizations and the
- armed struggle. These elections won't lead to meaningful change.
- Not one single candidate is even addressing the fundamental
- problems affecting the people.
-
- "What do you think you can concretely achieve?"
-
- First, progressive candidates can be chosen. But at the
- national level, they have little chance in the "guns, goons, and
- gold" system. They have a better chance at the local level, even
- though their effect there is minimal. The important thing is to
- advance the struggle of the peoples' movement. Electoral struggle
- and mass-struggle must go together. Another important point is
- the American military bases. Last year, the Senate reached a new
- agreement on the bases. It should stay that way. It's important
- to elect enough senators who are opposed to the bases. In line
- with this, major progressive organizations are trying to make
- such issues central political questions in the elections.
-
- "But with little success, one would think...have the peace-
- process and the total-war become hot issues?"
-
- No. But the pressure by the peace-movement on the
- politicians has had some effect. Presidential candidate Salonga
- publicly declared his willingness to enter into an agreement with
- the NDF. Even Ramos has mentioned the issue, but he only talks of
- our surrender.
-
- "If Ramos is elected president [he was -ed.], how will the NDF
- insure that the government begins negotiations?"
-
- We have little choice. We will keep defending ourselves
- against the government's total-war, which will surely continue,
- and we will try to put pressure on the Ramos government. Military
- successes by the NPA will weaken the army's faith in their
- ability to defeat us militarily. In addition to this, it's
- important that the peace-movement stay strong. There is now a
- group calling themselves 'peace initiators'. This is the broadest
- group to date. They want to act as intermediaries. The government
- needs to clearly state what it wants from the peace-process.
- That's why they may come to The Netherlands to speak with the
- NDF. If this happens, the peace-process will have advanced one
- step. Then we can begin to discuss dates and delegates. Of
- course, international support for the peace process is also
- important. The Swiss and Swedish governments have offered to host
- talks in Geneva and Stockholm respectively, but foreign minister
- Manglapus refused this offer. The European Parliament passed a
- resolution expressing its hope that the new Philippine government
- will take steps towards peace and improving human rights. But
- pressure from the US government is crucial. American churches
- have taken some initiatives. We need to have other governments
- and parliaments expressing a need for peace. But so far, that
- hasn't happened.
-
- "So the American presidential election is important. Who do you
- support, Clinton or Bush?"
-
- Well, what can I say? That's like choosing between Coke and
- Pepsi...No, give me Heineken...or San Miguel [the most popular
- beer in the Philippines -ed.]."
-
-
- [from Konfrontatie #11]
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