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- From: tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen)
- Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell
- Subject: Re: Sort problem . .
- Message-ID: <1992Jul31.000822.13317@convex.com>
- Date: 31 Jul 92 00:08:22 GMT
- References: <7=pmx9.messina@netcom.com> <1992Jul30.094428.17460@prl.dec.com> <33pmg
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- Reply-To: tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen)
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- From the keyboard of messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk):
- :boyd@prl.dec.com (Boyd Roberts) writes:
- :>In article <7=pmx9.messina@netcom.com>, messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk) writes:
- :>>
- :>> BTW, since when is stderr reserved for "non-information"? Frankly, I
- :>> say send to stderr anything that is non-essential in the redirection of
- :>> stdout or in piping of stdout, such as sorting.
- :
- :>Standard error is for _errors_.
- :>If it's `non-essential' then don't output it in the first place.
- :
- :Do you get all those answers from a book? Let me ask you a question -
- :does a usefulness of a utility make any difference, or is it all
- :according to what you found written somewhere? I mean, have you ever
- :tried being *flexible* to accomplish your task?
-
- Boyd is dead right here. I am constantly incensed by massively
- UNIX-ignorant programmers who inflict brain-damaged software on
- the rest of us who actually try to use it. You know, the ones who
- simply don't have any concept of how filters should work, what
- stderr is for, how to parse options, what the exit status
- should be used for, or who only supply an interactive interface.
-
- Expected output should go out to stdout. Exceptional output related
- to diagnostics or other error messages should go out stderr.
-
- Period.
-
- --tom
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