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From: [e-mail] ("Dr. "Eliot Kimber" Macro")
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Subject: Identifying Overlaps
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Date: 23 Jul 92 14:37:31 GMT
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Darrell Raymond writes:

>  Once again, consider the markup of a stream with overlapping elements
>(three elements this time).
>
>  Here is the text:
>
>    now is the time for all good
>
>  And the contents of each element (and of their overlaps) is defined as
>follows (where the operator "^" means intersection):
>
>  X:    now is the for
>  Y:     is the for all
>  Z:     the for all good   <-- Typo?  Should Z contain 'the'?
>  X^Y:    is for
>  X^Z:    the for
>  Y^Z:    for all
>  X^Y^Z: for
>
>  Note that the elements are not contiguous subsequences of text.  If
>you draw a Venn diagram with three overlapping circles and put the words
>in the various regions as the element membership requires, it might be
>easier to visualize.  Never mind that it seems bizarre.
>
>  Now, the markup problem I pose is the following: insert tags in the
>text, corresponding to X, Y, and Z, that demarcate the various regions
>in such a way that a "reasonable" person or program can identify all
>the elements and overlaps, and would not infer non-existent relationships.
>
>-Darrell.
>

First, here's a visual representation of the overlap, to make
sure I've got it right

                       and X contains 'for'?
X  now is the for
Y      is the for all
Z             for all good      (Assuming Z does not contain 'the')

The obvious solution is Michael's use of non-containing marker
elements, which the parser cannot validate but that an
application can:

<x start>now <y start>is the <z start>for<x end> all<y end> good<z start>

If the markup didn't all have to be embeded in the string itself
I could use HyTime location functions to define each of the spans
(or DSSSL location function), or define my own markup that
did so.  I could also define indirect methods where I identify
each different part and then combine them.  I could also define
my processor such that it does string comparisons, with something
like this:

<text id=x>now is the for</>
<text id=y>is the for all</>
<text id=z>for all good</>
<intersect refids='x y'>X intersect Y
<intersect refids='x z'>X intersect Z
<intersect refids='y z'>Y intersect Z
<intersect refids='x y z'>X intersect Y intersect Z

Where the processor would compare the the strings referenced
left to right to find matches and report the result.

I could also define a "delta-chain" structure, like so:

<text id=base>now is the for</>
<text id=x refid=base><!-- No change as x=base -->
<text id=y refid=x><deletion start=1 len=4><text>all</text></text>
<text id=z refid=y><deletion start=1 len=7><text>good</text></text>

Here, the DELETION element is not procedural but merely identifies
a deletion using a location method.  The processing of TEXT
is defined such that contained text is appended to referenced
text.  Without writing the program to check, I think there's enough
information above to let you determine the intersections
of any of the defined text strings, as the DELETION information gives
enough information to derive the start and and of each string
relative to others in the chain.

I think the first solution meets the letter of Darrell's new
challenge, if not the spirit.  The other solutions demonstrate
other approaches to the problem of identifying relationships
among data elements that are not strictly hierarchical.

Eliot Kimber                      Internet:  [e-mail]
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