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- From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
- Subject: Re: Sun Floating License for compilers
- Date: 31 Jul 1992 18:09:45 GMT
- Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
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- Message-ID: <15bvl9INNl83@early-bird.think.com>
- References: <1992Jul31.143723.4738@nlm.nih.gov>
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- Keywords: compiler
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- In article <1992Jul31.143723.4738@nlm.nih.gov> seamans@nlm.nih.gov writes:
- >Not really sure where to post this but....
-
- There was a discussion of this in about a week ago in another newsgroup
- (maybe misc.legal.computing, or comp.unix.<something>).
-
- >The 15 minute linger is unecessary and a hindrance to the use of the
- >compiler and development of programs. There is no mention of the orginal
- >user being able to re-use the compiler after he releases.
-
- Yes, there is: "The 15 minute linger prevents you from losing access to the
- compiler...." That's the whole point of the linger time. For instance, if
- the user is running a Makefile or script, after each compilation he retains
- the license so that the next compilation will work.
-
- > Does this mean
- >that the linger time is forced on all users of the compiler? Think very
- >carefully about this -- you use the compiler for 26 seconds. It is now
- >locked out for everyone for the next 15 minutes. If the original user can
- >re-use the compiler in this 15 minute period, then the queue of other users
- >can be longer than anticipated until the 15 minute value has been satisfied.
-
- You said that you hardly ever use the compiler, so what makes you think
- that two users will ever need it within the same 15 minute period? Sites
- that use the compiler more than that can purchase more licenses.
-
- >This idle time should be adjustable by the adminstrator to efficiently
- >manage the usage of the comiler.
-
- Yes, this is true. The idle time should be configurable, since it doesn't
- affect the ability of the software to prohibit more simultaneous users than
- are licensed.
-
- >This is a very silly game Sun is playing and smells as if the upper
- >management of Sun just moved over from IBM.
-
- I'm not sure what this means. I assume that the lack of configurability
- was just a design mistake by some programmer. How many presidents and VPs
- of $billion companies get involved in specifying configuration options of
- individual programs?
-
- >I believe we will be looking for other vendors to supply out compiler needs.
-
- Well, the ability to choose vendors *was* the justification for unbundling.
- Vote with your wallets.
- --
- Barry Margolin
- System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.
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