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- From: raolson@cornflower.wpd.sgi.com (Robert Olson)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
- Subject: Re: make and SGI sales (unrelated)
- Keywords: make sccs
- Message-ID: <1992Jul30.163648.8780@odin.corp.sgi.com>
- Date: 30 Jul 92 16:36:48 GMT
- References: <1110@shrike.com>
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- Reply-To: raolson@cornflower.wpd.sgi.com (Robert Olson)
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- In article <1110@shrike.com>, flash@austin.lockheed.com (James W. Melton) writes:
- |>
- |> Second topic. Recently, I tried to call my local sales rep. It
- |> turns out that he didn't meet his sales quota and SGI let him go.
- |> This is a shame, because he was one of the best salesmen I have
- |> ever known. He was personally responsible for convincing me that
- |> SGI is a reputable company with solid support behind the product.
- |> He is a lot less greasy than your typical sales lizard.
- |>
- |> The question is: is this normal procedure for SGI? Miss a quota and
- |> hit the road? Does this imply anything about SGI's current or
- |> future financial picture? I really need a local sales rep. We are
- |> in the midst of a pitched evangelism campaign and I can't do SGI's
- |> sales job for them. Calling some guy in California won't cut it.
- |> What is SGI's policy for local sales reps?
- |>
- |> Just curious.
-
- I don't know anything about this specific situation, and wouldn't
- comment if I did. Further, I'm not speaking from any particular
- knowledge of SGI Field Sales management practices.
-
- That said, I've had close contact with various sales organizations
- over the years, and in general this is the practice throughout the
- industry. There are a lot of reasons for failing to hit quota, and sales
- management (just like any other management) will try to be
- understanding about occasional failure. For example, the economy or
- the particular industry (defense?) might be in a slump, and no
- manager likes to get rid of good people for short term reasons.
- Another example is spending too much time on evangelism
- campaigns and not enough time tending existing volume customers.
- Sales is a profession, just like what the rest of us do, with its own
- set of performance standards, things that make resumes look good,
- and standard practices. Many sales reps move from company to
- company, taking their existing customer relationships with them.
- This motivates them to not burn you in one company. After all, if
- you bought $100K of cars per year from the same guy, you would
- get much different treatment at the car dealership than you get
- wandering in off the street every 10 years. But, in the end, sales
- people (and sales management) are compensated through
- commissions on the products they sell. Failure to hit quota hurts
- the sales management in the paycheck. Sometimes the failure
- is an inability to apply the standard tools of the trade, such as an
- inability to close deals, or an inability to sort through the welter
- of tire kickers for the deal that will actually close. The good sales
- guys, just like the good engineers, have an amazing ability to make
- their time productive, their customers happy, and their bosses
- look good. Conversely, unsuccessful sales people, just like
- unsuccessful engineers, make their bosses look bad. We all get
- people in our group who are unsuccessful for one reason or another.
- The best managers figure it out quickly and deal with the
- situation. Sales people, by nature, generally have a shorter horizon
- than those of us who nature destined for engineering. Sales
- managers are ex-sales people. They tend to make decisions about
- people faster than engineering managers. So you tend to see people
- move around faster in sales. I believe this is accepted as part of
- being in sales, which generally is a much faster paced profession
- than engineering.
-
- Bottom line: Sales people are measured by their ability to rack up
- sales. Business plans are based on most of them hitting their sales
- quotas. Some consideration is made for "investment" in customer
- relations or new industries. Evidence that you can't measure up
- by the standards of your profession mean you should move on.
-
- Again, I don't have any idea if this was your situation. Just an
- attempt to interpret a foreign culture for engineers.
-