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- From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
- Subject: Re: Summary: Problem with /bin/mail...
- Message-ID: <nmtdnns@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com>
- Keywords: /bin/mail
- Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc. Mountain View, CA
- References: <nkdpn0c@sgi.sgi.com> <1992Jul24.032024.22721@rata.vuw.ac.nz> <1992Jul24.034204.23207@rata.vuw.ac.nz>
- Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:42:39 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul24.034204.23207@rata.vuw.ac.nz>, tony@rata.vuw.ac.nz (Tony Martindale) writes:
- > ...
- >
- > There are lots of things that can cause mail to fail, are you going
- > to address all of them? As I conceded above, bouncing the mail in the
- > context of your lost messages is the best thing to do.
-
-
- Of course, to the extent possible. Bugs will be fixed as much as they
- can be fixed and improvements will be made.
-
- Unfortunately, almost all mail failures are caused by operator errors.
- Mail works as the machine comes out of the box, especially with the new
- "auto-configuring" stuff. Unfortunately, that configuration is often
- either inappropriate for the customer envirornment or is not consistent
- with local prejudices on how things should work.
-
- After a few years, if you are not paid to work on the Hotline, you
- become very wary about helping people with mail problems in your
- "spare" time. The general problem is hard, and the tools are powerful;
- sendmail is "Turing complete." Solving mail problems is often like
- solving a random bug in a customer C or Fortran program, except that
-
- (1) the customer is generally completely and loudly certain the
- problem is caused by a bug in the "compiler" (sendmail)
- or the rest of the system.
- (2) the language is less than convenient to read and understand.
- (3) the requirements for the program are hard to discover and often
- not understood by the customer, although the customer is often
- loudly certain and wrong.
- (4) the customer is often under great pressure from users with
- even less interest, understanding, or patience, who "just want
- email to work."
-
- Vernon Schryver, vjs@sgi.com
-