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- From: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.sequent,comp.sys.unisys
- Subject: Re: multiple SCEDs on one LAN
- Message-ID: <22622@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
- Date: 22 Jul 92 21:52:45 GMT
- References: <1992Jul22.140352.24997@wvus.org>
- Reply-To: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
- Followup-To: comp.sys.sequent
- Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
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- In comp.sys.sequent, pete@wvus.org (Pete Gregory) writes:
- >Hi - PTX 1.1.1 here on 3xS27's + 2xS81's...
- >
- >One of our S81's has enough tcp connections that we've had to buy a second
- >SCED card (each SCED card will carry up to 256 tcp connections, a hard
- >limit).
-
- I find this tcp limit very hard too believe. What does the SCED card
- have to do with TCP? Did they move the TCP/IP code into the SCED card
- for PTX? It certainly has nothing to do with TCP in our Sequent S27
- runing Dynix V3.0.17.9.
-
- If there's a limit of 256 TCP connections I wouldn't expect it to be
- in the SCED card. It would be a kernel problem.
-
- What happens when you reach this limit?
-
- >The idea
- >here is that some people would telnet to the first SCED card, and others to
- >the second SCED card, thereby distributing the tcp-connections load evenly
- >among the two SCED cards and avoiding problems by overflowing one or the
- >other.
-
- >When the two SCED cards' IP addresses are set to be 89.0.0.5 and 89.0.0.40,
- >the second SCED card end up transmitting ALL outbound packets; netstat -i
- >looks like this:
-
- This is just the way TCP/IP works. The tcp output routine uses the
- routing table (netstat -r) to determine which interace to send a packet.
- It will send the packet out the first interface it finds with the
- correct network address. If both your interfaces are configured for the
- same network (89), then all packets will go out the first interface.
- (notice that this logic has nothing to to with TCP connections).
-
- Notice that netstat -i doesn't say anything about the number of TCP
- connections associated with the card.
-
- >Something else I've tried: using IP addresses on different network numbers
- >(ie. 89.0.0.5 and 88.0.0.40), but we can't reach the 2nd SCED card, even
- >when I manually put entries for the 2nd SCED card in all machines' ARP
- >tables.
-
- To distribute the load, you have to make it look like two different
- ethernet cables - i.e. give them different network numbers - like you
- tried above.
-
- The problem is that the workstations assume that all hosts on the
- same ethernet cable will have the same network number. So if you
- have a workstation with address 89.0.0.10, and it tries to talk
- to the Sequent as 88.0.0.40, it won't work. The workstation doesn't
- know how to send packets to network 88 - and on most systems, there's
- no way to assign two different network numbers to the same
- ethernet interface.
-
- What you can do is change the IP address of half of your workstaions
- so they too are on the 88 network. Then they will be able to talk
- to the Sequent. But then they will have problems talking to other
- workstations that have IP address with 89 network number.
-
- You can solve this by making the sequent act as a gateway between the
- two networks (which it will do automatically. On the workstations,
- just configure the sequent as the default gateway. If the workstation
- has an 89 address, then use the 89 address of the Sequent as the
- default gateway and address, and if the workstion has an 88 address,
- then use the Sequent's 88 address as the gateway. BTW, on Unix
- workstations you normally define the default gateway (i.e. route) with
- a command that looks something like this: "/usr/etc/route add 0
- 89.0.0.40 1".
-
- The problem with this set up is any time a workstation needs to talk
- to another workstation that has a different network number, all the
- traffic will have to go through the Sequent, and will appear on the
- cable twice. If you have very little traffic between the other
- workstaions, this might not be too bad.
-
- But basically, all this shouldn't be required.
-
- Curt
-