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- From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
- Subject: Credibility Gap (was Re: Macs cost too much)
- Message-ID: <JBukoB6w165w@mantis.co.uk>
- Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 16:31:42 BST
- Distribution: world
- Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.
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- In <1992Jul24.131236.4307@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> smoon@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov
- (Sang J. Moon) writes:
- > In article <ewright.711925511@convex.convex.com>, ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
- > > In <1992Jul23.143042.14243@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> smoon@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov (Sang J. Moon) writes:
- > > >I've been using System 7 with tuneup 1.1.1 for about 6 months now, and I've
- > > >had to reinstall system 7 and/or rebuild the desktop file an average of
- > > >twice a month. With 75MB of stuff on my hard drive, this has been the
- > > >biggest waste of my time.
- > >
- > > Oh, rubbish. Your PC-bigot friends might be willing (happy!) to
- > > belive this, but keep in mind that this is comp.sys.mac and most
- > > of the people here have actually used Macs.
- >
- > You have never rebuilt your desktop in system 7 so you don't know
- > what you are talking about. As far as I know, there is no modifier
- > key you can hold down in System 7 to rebuild the desktop.
-
- Well, that about wraps it up for YOUR credibility, doesn't it?
-
- > I received
- > an extension from someone which allows me to automatically delete
- > the desktop FILE on startup.
-
- Even better.
-
- Tell me, if it's a single desktop file, what are those TWO desktop database
- files I see whenever I run ResEdit and look at the top level of the folder
- tree? Or is it that I "don't know what [I'm] talking about"?
-
- > or through email; otherwise keep this a civil discussion. Database
- > information is stored in files, and anyone playing with resedit can see
- > the desktop file(s?).
-
- You admit that you don't actually know how many there are?
-
- > Example: Symantic Antivirus for the Macintosh
- >
- > You have to read the instructions to install this properly because you
- > have to:
- > 1. Run a disk repair program to insure the hard drive is okay.
- > 2. Run SAM from the diskette on the hard drive first.
- > 3. Install the control panel by dragging it to the extension folder
- > and making an alias which you put into the control panel folder.
- > 4. Install the virus definition in the system folder.
- > 5. Drag copy SAM somewhere.
- > 6. Reboot
- > 7. Personalise both SAM an the control panel separately the first
- > time you run them.
-
- Step 1 is only a precaution. If you think it must be obeyed, then you should
- run CHKDSK before installing every single piece of PC software.
-
- Step 2 is also a precaution, to check your hard disk for viruses before
- installing SAM somewhere where it might get infected. You have to do exactly
- the same for any piece of PC anti-virus software.
-
- Steps 3 to 6... I make it a drag-drop, a menu command, three more
- drag-drops, and a menu command.
-
- And that's a difficult installation. If (say) QEMM were that easy to install
- I'd be laughing.
-
- Still, I suppose to an extent it's your fault for buying SAM. It *was* #1 in
- last week's Top Ten Rip-Offs table... I use Gatekeeper, which was dead easy
- to install. I'm considering whether to buy Virus Detective, which is also a
- cinch.
-
- [ Aside: The reason I don't like Virus Detective is the horrible user
- interface. All that fancy shading and the nasty bevelled edge effects.
- Ugh. If it looked clean and functional the cheque would probably be in the
- post by now... ]
-
- > Installing software on a mac can take definitely much more than a few
- > minutes, and just clicking on the installer is not enough.
- >
- > Example: Microsoft Word 5.0, Microsoft Excel 4.0, etc.
-
- Why is it every time someone says "Mac software is crap", the example they
- come up with is a Microsoft product?
-
- Don't you think that should be telling you something?
-
- > Example: Microsoft Word for Windows, WordPerfect, MacLinkPC, etc.
- >
- > 1. Install diskette in to drive a and type "a:install".
-
- Hmm. I just stuck my Word for Windows disk in and typed "a:install" and it
- said "Unknown command a:install".
-
- I then typed "a:setup", and it said:
-
- # Microsoft (R) Word for Windows 2.0 Setup
- # This program requires Microsoft (R) Windows version 3.0 or higher.
- #
- # To start Word Setup:
- # 1. Start Windows and run Setup via the Program Manager's File Run command.
- # or
- # 2. Start Windows and Setup together by typing "win setup" at the DOS
- # prompt.
-
- Of course, option 1 is intuitively obvious, and option 2 will obviously work
- first time as I'm bound to have Windows in my path and a:\ as my current
- directory, right?
-
- If I'm actually in Windows already and I type "a:setup" into one of my DOS
- shell windows, it helpfully suggests:
-
- # Please switch to Windows with CTRL+ESC
-
- Wow. Switch to Windows? What am I running now, OS/2? I can see pretty
- windows and icons on my screen, so I *thought* I was running Windows, but
- hey, I'm a naive user, maybe I made a mistake...
-
-
- mathew
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