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- From: smoon@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov (Sang J. Moon)
- Subject: Re: Macs cost too much (NOT!)
- Message-ID: <1992Jul23.143042.14243@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>
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- References: <92203.173612ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET> <yL0aoB27w165w@mantis.co.uk>
- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:30:42 GMT
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- In article <yL0aoB27w165w@mantis.co.uk>, mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:
- >
- > ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET writes:
- > > In article <5794.2a6ac834@hayes.com>, bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman) says:
- > > >Huh. Isn't your time worth something? Isn't that part of the reason for
- > > >buying a computer in the first place -- in order to save you time and
- > > >hassle to get something done? If the computer creates work instead of
- > > >diminishing it, then it hasn't fulfilled it's job.
- > >
- > > Depends on who has to pay for the machine. If it`s my boss then you`re right.
- > > But there are even people out there who repair their cars themselves. I _can_
- > > install OS/2 or Windoze on an Intel box (i.e. I know how to push in the disks
- > > and for some hundred $$$ I do it myself.
- >
- > Yeah, well, I can install Windows as well. But now that I've done it about
- > ten times, I'm getting a bit pissed off doing it.
- >
- > Windows seems to have a half-life of about 30 days. Around once a month
- > something decays and stops working. This happens even when I don't fiddle
- > with it. For example, this month my DOS shells stopped working properly.
- > They were causing internal errors in the Clipper compiler. I hadn't touched
- > the settings for my DOS shells since the month before, when I last installed
- > Windows.
- >
- > To get my compiler to work again, I had to blast the windows directory and
- > reinstall again from scratch. As I say, I have to do this about once a month.
- > Each time, it takes me about an afternoon to get everything reinstalled the
- > way it was to start with. Fortunately it's not my time; I don't mind being
- > paid to watch applications re-installing.
- >
- > I fiddle with the System on my Mac at home all the time. I go in with
- > ResEdit on the System and Finder. I try out all sorts of qool INITs (I
- > generally run six or seven of 'em.) In spite of this, the System appears to
- > be solid. I often leave the machine booted up for days at a time without
- > problems, and I've never had to reinstall the System.
-
- [stuff deleted]
-
- I've been using System 7 with tuneup 1.1.1 for about 6 months now, and I've
- had to reinstall system 7 and/or rebuild the desktop file an average of
- twice a month. With 75MB of stuff on my hard drive, this has been the
- biggest waste of my time. If time is money, saying that the mac saves
- money this way is not totally true. From my experience with both macs and
- PCs, it seems that no matter what machine I use, I am able to waste the
- same amount of time "fiddling" with either machine. Installing software
- takes just about the same time. Deinstalling software is just as agonizing
- for either machine. Installing an interface board on a PC takes a little
- effort, but it's a one time effort usually and in the long run does not
- take any significant time. Anyone can see that macs have their share of
- problems by browsing through the comp.sys.mac hierarchy. I do like the mac
- better than the PC because of the little extras it gives, but macs cost
- 2 to 3 times more than corresponding PC systems regardless of the extra
- "fiddling" time needed for PCs. At work I use a mac because I don't pay for
- it, but at home, I bought a 386-40 because it gives the best computing value
- for it's price.
-
- The system I got was:
-
- 386-40Mhz CPU w/64K cache
- 4 MB RAM
- 1.2MB & 1.44MB floppies
- 211MB IDE 15ms hard drive
- 1Kx768 VGA card with 1MB RAM
- 2400 baud internal modem
- 28dp non-interlaced SVGA monitor
- 101 enhanced keyboard
- high resolution mouse
- 2 serial/1 parallel/1 game ports
- DOS 5.0
- Windows 3.1
- printer cable (already had a printer)
- public domain software
-
- for $1678.95 including tax.
-
- If you respond to this post, please list the system you bought and
- how much you paid for it. It shows what you actually have to back your
- views. It may also show that you had much more money than I had to spend.
- In which case, there should be no need for everybody yelling their heads
- off because I too would buy a mac if I had that much money to spare.
-
- > mathew
- > --
- > Ceci | n'est pas une pipe.
-
- Sang J. Moon
-
-