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- From: jack@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Jack Kobzeff)
- Subject: Re: CLIs that teach; GUIs that don't
- Message-ID: <jack-220792093840@compstore.jpl.nasa.gov>
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- References: <100760001@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com> <516@curry.UUCP>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:48:54 GMT
- Lines: 44
-
- In article <516@curry.UUCP>, bebb@ukfca1 (Malcolm Bebb) wrote:
- >
- >
- > jem@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Jim McCauley) writes:
- >
- > > I use both a Macintosh and Unix systems frequently,
- > >and frankly, I favor an editor-based CLI (like the Korn shell) over
- > >the Mac interface for nearly everything I do. Simple features like a
- > >command history and command-line editing are enormously helpful.
- >
- ........
- >
- > >If a GUI actually encouraged users to learn something about the
- > >architecture of the system they were using, I would be all for it.
- >
- > I don't subscribe to the view that you have to understand the inner workings
- > of anything before you can be allowed to use it. I don't want a user
- > interface which "encourages" me to learn about the architecture. When I use
- > a spreadsheet, I want to do some sums, not learn about the architecture of
- > the machine I happen to be using. Similarly, when I use a word processor
- > I want to write some text, and when I'm in the finder I want to find files,
- > or whatever.
-
- YES! Exactly right!! Far too often we computer weenies forget the simple
- fact that the HUGE majority of computer users DO NOT WANT to 'learn about
- system architecture' or the like. They only want to do their jobs. The fact
- that it happens to be done on a computer is almost irrelevant. To them, the
- computer is a tool, not a toy or a 'learning experience'.
-
-
- > If the interface "encourages" or constrains me to do *ANYTHING* other than
- > my chosen task, it is coming between me and my reason for using the system.
- > If I have to learn CLI instructions (even on a multiple-choice basis!),
- > that is extra work - I don't need it. The interface should be transparent.
- >
-
- Which was exactly the breakthru that the Mac made for me. I had been using
- various computers for about 10 years before the Mac. But after using the
- Mac for a while, I found that the computer 'dissapeared', and I totally
- forgot about typing commands, etc. I had forgotten the computer and was
- thinking only of my work. The interface was transparent. I had never had
- this experience before the Mac.
-
- Jack Kobzeff (jack@jato.jpl.nasa.gov)
-