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- From: mceder@gateway.novell.com (Mike Cederholm)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
- Subject: Re: Help on repairing Mac SE, please!
- Message-ID: <1992Jul23.152346.13475@gateway.novell.com>
- Date: 23 Jul 92 15:23:46 GMT
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- mikem@beanpot.ma30.bull.com (Mike Machnik) writes:
- : This is more of the same problem I posted about last week. Only got one
- : response then - thanks to Dana - so I've been going pretty blind since then
- : but have made some progress. But I'm stuck again.
- :
- : BTW, this problem came about because of an apparent power surge that hit
- : the Mac about two weeks ago. Actually, there were three from what I was
- : told (it isn't my Mac).
- :
- : The SE came up with the sad Mac and an error code which indicated
- : that SIMM 2 was bad. I swapped SIMMs 1&2 and the new code indicated SIMM 1
- : was bad, so I felt pretty confident that was the problem (or a problem).
- : I removed SIMMs 1&2 and replaced them with 256K SIMMs (all four were 1 MB),
- : bringing the machine down to 2.5 MB. Now I get a checkerboard pattern on
- : the screen AND a happy Mac. This confuses me because in Larry Pina's book,
- : he refers to a straight checkerboard pattern as being representative of a
- : ROM problem but he doesn't say anything about a happy Mac. In addition, I
- : tried pressing down on the ROM chips and they seem to be in as far as they
- : can go.
- :
- : My main questions are:
- : 1) Does the checkerboard with happy Mac indicate something else?
-
- It can but in this case it is due to a bad memory address map... you took out
- 1 meg simms and put smaller ones in, but did you make sure the resistor that
- lets the machine know what kind of simms are in was correct, and did you follow
- the guidelines for the banks of simms.... i.e. the 1 megs have to go in the
- correct bank.... so check the address resistor ( 470k I think... its marked)
- and try switching the banks of simms (in pairs) your problem should go away.
-
- : 2) Could one or more of the ROMs be bad? How easy is it to find
- : replacements?
-
- Roms are almost NEVER know to go bad... consult your dealer... you will pay
- dearly for these so consider it a last resort.
-
- : 3) Could the SE be unhappy that the 256K SIMMs are in slots 1&2 instead of
- : 3&4? I can check this tonight but if someone knows the technical details,
- : I'd appreciate it.
- :
- See above....
- : Anything else that anyone can suggest will be greatly appreciated. I've
- : been trying to do this repair for a friend who owns the Mac but has no
- : money for a quoted $350 logic board repair at a local store, and she certainly
- : can't afford a new computer. Thanks VERY much in advance.
- : --
- : == Mike Machnik Bull HN Information Systems Inc. ==
- : == 508-294-2177 300 Concord Road MA30-836A ==
- : == mikem@beanpot.ma30.bull.com Billerica, MA 01821 ==
-
- --
- Mike Cederholm.... Novell, Inc.
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