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- From: sxjcb@orca.alaska.edu (Jay C. Beavers)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
- Subject: Re: Fast 32 bit bus and cards
- Message-ID: <sxjcb-310792103233@sxjcb.uacn.alaska.edu>
- Date: 31 Jul 92 18:44:41 GMT
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- In article <92213.101332REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
- wrote:
- >
- >
- > EISA (given that the clock speeds on it & ISA are the same) is capable of do
- > ubling the IO speed of you ISA cards (yes your ISA cards) provided the drivers
- > & boards can handle the improved DMA timing. OK, your ISA boards that use DMA.
- > Now, consider a factor of 2 for 32-bit EISA cards and you have a factor of 4
- > possible improvement. (All EISA is 8.25 MHz)
-
- This is incorrect. The EISA spec provides for a 33 mHz burst mode data
- transfer between busmastering cards and each other or the CPU, if I
- remember correctly. Now, this would in fact bring the EISA spec up to the
- same speeds as a 33 mHz local bus at maximum throughput.
-
- Additionally, EISA provides the ability for EISA cards to 'bus master'
- where they actually run with their own processors and can access
- motherboard memory directly -- something that no finalized local bus spec
- has provided for -- to my knowlege. So, potentially an EISA card could do
- it's task all alone with no CPU intervention (other than instructions on
- what to do) while a (non-bus mastering) local bus card will always be
- locked into using the CPU to transfer data to it from motherboard memory.
- The local bus card may be as fast, but the CPU is going to have much more
- to do.
-
- So, until a decent version of the local bus comes out -- and Intel's spec
- certainly sounds like it will be one (up to 10 bus slots and rumored
- bus-mastering capability) local bus will remain a cheap way to get EISA
- class performance on low cost machines with low cost cards, but it still
- will not be able to compete with an EISA machine with good EISA cards in
- it.
-
- (And no, I don't have either an EISA bus or a local bus -- I'm stuck with 8
- 16 bit ISA slots, thank you very much!)
-
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