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Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.st:11878 news.answers:2305 Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,news.answers Path: sparky!uunet!gatech!destroyer!news.iastate.edu!pv1787.vincent.iastate.edu!sourada From: sourada@iastate.edu (Steven D Ourada) Subject: Welcome to comp.sys.atari.st! Message-ID: <sourada.712512222@pv1787.vincent.iastate.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.atari.st Summary: Some frequent questions and answers about Atari 16/32 bit computers. Please read this before asking a question on comp.sys.atari.st. Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:03:42 GMT Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.Edu Expires: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 00:00:00 GMT Lines: 1542 Archive-name: csas-faq/part1 Welcome to comp.sys.atari.st! Please read this FAQ before posting a question to comp.sys.atari.st, since a lot of common questions are answered here. Thanks to David Paschall-Zimbel (davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu) for compiling most of this FAQ. The following is an index of the questions answered in this part of the FAQ. For easy access to a particular question, search for the tag surrounded by colons (i. e. :GNU:). Questions marked with '*' are new or changed. WEL Welcome to comp.sys.atari.st EMILY Hints from Emily Postnews BOOKS What books are available for the Atari ST? DEV How do I become a developer for the Atari ST? ERR What does TOS ERROR nn mean? FREE What is Free-Net and how can I get access? *MAGS What magazines are available for the Atari ST? *TIPS TIPS AND HINTS from other users ZNET Where can I get copies of ZNET? EXPLOR Where can I get copies of Atari Explorer Online? PD Where can I get Public Domain/Shareware software? MAIL E-Mail file servers *FTP Anonymous FTP servers *COMP Atari-related companies IAAD Independent Atari Developers *CREDIT Who has contributed to the FAQ? :WEL: Welcome to comp.sys.atari.st ============================ This newsgroup is devoted to discussion about 16 and 32 bit Atari micros. At present that includes the Atari 520ST, 1040ST, Mega ST, STe, STacy, Mega STe, and the Atari TT. There are also emulators for the Apple Macintosh and IBM PC/XT/AT available. Most of the people who read this newsgroup are technically oriented. The newsgroup serves as a resource for Atari users ... feel free to contribute to the discussions. Associated newsgroups include: comp.binaries.atari.st ! uuencoded binary programs comp.sys.atari.st.tech ! technical programming/hardware topics comp.sources.atari.st ! uuencoded/shar sources :EMILY: Hints from Emily Postnews ========================= (Thanks to John Henders (jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca) for this bit of _humor_.) Emily Postnews Visits comp.sys.atari.st ( Due to popular demand, (well at least one persone asked anyways), Emily has taken time out of her busy schedule to answer a few commonly asked questions specific to c.s.a.st. ) Dear Emily. Some Amiga user is raving on c.s.a.st about how wonderful his computer is, and how awful mine is. What should I do? signed My Computer is NOT a Toy. Dear My Computer, etc,etc. Many people's egos are so tied to their possessions, they have to affirm their existance by raving about the superiority of their machine to anyone who will listen. You should immediately flame these people into cinders, using every rumour or misconception you've ever heard about their brand of computer, as this will cause lots of posts, and develop into a massive flame war, which is one of the main reasons most people read c.s.a.st. If this didn't happen every six months, everybody would unsubscibe to this newsgroups from boredom. Or, you could put comp.sys.amiga.advocacy in the Followup to: line, and any article replying to yours would go to the newsgroup designed for this discussion. Or, if your newsreader supports it, you could build a KILL FILE, which eliminates any post that has the word Amiga in it. Kill files can be created in rn and trn by hitting the 'K' key. This will make a kill file based on the article you were reading at the time. Then control K will put that file in the editor for you to play with. You use the same regexp commands here that are in rn. For example. /[Ff]oo/h:j would search all headers of unread articles for both Foo and foo, and junk them. Check the docs for your newsreader for further details. Dear Emily. I like flame wars, and want to start one of my own, so my name will be as famous as Richard Covert's. Signed, Too much Time on My Hands. Dear Too much time. Sorry it took so long to reply, but Richard's in my kill file and someone had to forward your post to me, or I'd never have seen it. Flame wars are fun. They're the main reason people creted Usenet, and should be encouraged at every opertunity. Some of the most common tricks for starting flame wars are as follows. 1: Post a note in another newsgroup telling all the users there that they own a piece of junk, and if they had a half a brain, they'd have the same computer you do, as it's obviously the best. 2: Toss a bit of slander against another computer in a totally unrelated post. This guarantees a follow up, even if your original post wasn't of any interest. 3: Create a signature file that has a put down of another computer in it. This will get flame wars going in threads that have completely unrelated Subject: lines, thus slipping through all but he most exacting kill files. I hope you find these tips handy in creating your next flame war. And just remember, your computer MUST be the best, after all, it's yours. :BOOKS: What books are available for the Atari ST? ========================================== The (Almost) Complete Guide to Atari Reference Books Atari Coropration 1196 Borregas Avenue Sunnyvale, CA 94089 Atari TOS Developer's Kit Atari has now make the developer's documentation public. See DEV above for more information. Atari UK Software Support Atari Atari House Railway Terrace Slough, BERKS United Kingdom SL2 5BZ Tel 0753 53344 "A few people have asked for more info on the release by Atari UK of the programming docs. They have been released as 5 books." Programming Guides GEMDOS/BIOS & general programming. 238 pages. #29.99. (# = the British pound). Still Another Line A Doc (SALAD), Intelligent keyboard protocol, chkdsk3 docs, midi assoc address sheet. Programming Guides New machines. 184 pages. #29.99. Rainbow TOS release notes, STE developers addendum, STE TOS release notes, TT030 TOS release notes, TT030 hardware ref manual, VMS expansion for TT & MegaSTe. Includes 2 disks of utilities, examples, xcontrol & docs. Programming Guides - GEM VDI Programming Guides - GEM AES - combined books. 514 pages. #49.99 All the above together #99.99 Hardware and Chip Specs. 228 pages. #29.99 Engineering hardware spec, ACSI, MC6850, 68901, ay3-8910, wd1770, blitter Monitor & cartridge port. Also schematics. [Info from a posting by Iain Laskey dated 30 Nov 1991] Compute! Publications,Inc. PO Box 5406,Greensboro NC 27403(919-275-9809) Computes Technical Refence Guide Volume One. VDI Sheldon Leeman ISBN 0-87455-093-9 Computes Technical Refence Guide Volume Two. AES Sheldon Leeman ISBN 0-87455-114-5 Computes Technical Refence Guide Volume Three. TOS Sheldon Leeman ISBN 0-87455-149-8 Learning C. Programming Graphics on the Amiga and Atari ST. Marc B. Sugiyama and Christopher D. Metcalf ISBN 0-87455-064-5 Compute's ST Applications Guide. Programming in C Simon Feild,Kathleen Mandis and Dave Myers ISBN 0-87455-078-5 Scott,Foresman and Company. Professional Publishing Group 1900 East Lake Avenue,Glenville IL 600025 Learning C on the Atari ST Joseph Boyle Wikert ISBN 0-673-18738-1 Sybex Inc. 2344 Sixth St. Berkely,CA 94710 Programmers Guide To GEM Phillip Balma and William Fitler ISBN 0-553-34397-1 Taylor Ridge Books PO Box 48 Manchester, Connecticut (no zip listed) usa (203)643-9673 C-manship Complete, $19.95 Calyton Walnum No ISBN "a decent book on programming your st gem/aes/vdi plus other stuff that is based on the 31 articles that Clayton Walnum wrote for Analog. It was written on a mega 4 with Calamus." Addison-Wesley Pub. 68000 Assembly Language Donal Kantz & James Stanley ISBN 0-201-11659-6 "An interesting book on 68000 for the Atari (and amiga too, but both in the abstract)" atari.archive.umich.edu Assembly Language Programming Robert Arp Disk archives, not published in paper at this time. "It is an excellent guide to assembly languuage programming. It is very large and takes quite a while to make a hard copy if you desire to do so. The file names are arp68k-book.tar (the text) and arp68k-pix.Z.tar (.img files to go along with the text)." **************************************************************** * * THE FOLLOWING BOOKS ARE CURRENTLY OUT OF PRINT * Abacus Software,Inc. 5370 52nd Street,S.E. Grand Rapids,MI 49508 Atari ST Internals K Gerits,L. Englisch and R. Bruckmann ISBN 0-916439-46-1 Atari ST GEM Programmers Reference Norbert Szczepanowski and Bernt Gunther ISBN 0-916439-52-6 Atari ST 3d Graphics Programming Uwe Braun ISBN 0-916439-69-0 Atari ST Disk Drives Inside and Out Uwe Brawn,Stephan Dittrich and Axel Schramm ISBN 0-916439-84 Atari ST Machine Language B.Grohmann,P.eidler and H.Slibar ISBN 0-916439-48-8 Atari ST Introduction to MIDI Programming Len Dorfman and Dennis Young ISBN 0-916439-77-1 Bantam Books,Inc. 666 5th Avenue New York,New York 10103 Atari ST Application Programming Lawrence J. Pollack and Eric J.T.Weber ISBN 0-553-34397-1 **************************************************************** * * This List can be freely distributed and added to * All I ask is that people identify the added information as * their own * John Henders * Vancouver,BC * On Usenet uunet!ubc-cs!van-bc!jhenders * On ForumST John henders@448 * On GEnie c/o D.LEMAY2 * * C-Manship & 68000 Assembley Language suggested by Joe Gaudreau [DPZ] * Robert Arp's Assembley Language book suggested by David P. Forrai [DPZ] :DEV: How do I become a developer for the Atari ST? ============================================= Contact Gail Bacani, Atari Rep Person, (408)745-2022 [UNITED STATES ONLY. IF YOU LIVE OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES, CONTACT YOUR COUNTRY'S ATARI HEADQUARTERS FOR MORE INFORMATION.] Gail can explain the program to you, and send an information packet if you desire. Atari has gone to a 2-tier developer membership. The 'higher quality' developer support goes to commercial developers, and costs $250. The 'no-hand-holding, no announcement of company future products, no access to discounted hardware' goes to noncommercial developers, at an initial cost of $125, plus $50 renewal fee each year. Both tiers receive the ST/TT Developer Kit and all developers have to fill in an application form and a non-disclosure agreement. Contact Gail for more information. Atari is now selling the developer's kit (or parts of it) seperately. No project-in-development or non-disclosure agreement is necessary. :ERR: What does TOS ERROR nn mean? What do the bombs on my screen mean? ==================================== The information below was written, in part, by Darryl May, and posted on GEnie in January (of ????) by John Townsend. The original also appeared in the June 1988 issue of _Current Notes_ (122 N. Johnson Rd., Sterling, VA 22170). It has since found its way to me, and is being posted to comp.sys.atari.st as a service to readers. Alan Pratt wrote to tell me that the basic information may be correct, but that it cannot be dubbed "official" unless it originates, on paper, from Atari. This makes sense, as electronic communications are easily modified, even accidentally. Roland Waldi provided information regarding the difference between TOS and GEM return codes which appears to be correct. The tables have been modified to reflect his information. The following is an unofficial list of the errors that can appear while you are operating your ST computer. Error description return code alert box # ====================================================== OK (no error)....................0 Fundamental error...............-1 Drive not ready.................-2 Unknown command.................-3 CRC error.......................-4 Bad request.....................-5 Seek error......................-6 Unknown media...................-7 Sector not found................-8 No paper........................-9 Write fault....................-10 Read fault.....................-11 General error..................-12 Write protect..................-13 Media change...................-14 Unknown device.................-15 Bad sectors on format..........-16 Insert other disk..............-17 Invalid function number........-32............1 File not found.................-33............2 Path not found.................-34............3 No handles left................-35............4 Access denied..................-36............5 Invalid handle.................-37............6 Insufficient memory............-39............8 Invalid memory block address...-40............9 Invalid drive specified........-46...........15 No more files..................-49...........18 Range error....................-64...........33 Internal error.................-65...........34 Invalid program load format....-66...........35 The last code is the infamous "TOS error 35"! Also, some unofficial information via Alan Pratt: Notably, you should add -48: ENSAME (not the same drive, occurs when you call Frename and the two names you give aren't on the same drive), and -67: EGSBF: you can't use Mshrink to GROW a block of memory. Those bombs that appear on your screen are error messages from the 68000 micro-processor. Number Description of bombs =========================================== Reset: Initial PC2...............1 Bus Error........................2 Address Error....................3 Illegal Instruction..............4 Zero Divide......................5 CHK Instruction..................6 TRAPV Instruction................7 Privilege Violation..............8 Trace............................9 Line 1010 Emulator..............10 Line 1111 Emulator..............11 [unassigned, reserved]..........12 [unassigned, reserved]..........13 Format Error....................14 Uninitialized Interrupt Vector..15 [unassigned, reserved].......16-23 Spurious Interrupt..............24 Level 1 Interrupt Autovector....25 Level 2 Interrupt Autovector....26 Level 3 Interrupt Autovector....27 Level 4 Interrupt Autovector....28 Level 5 Interrupt Autovector....29 Level 6 Interrupt Autovector....30 Level 7 Interrupt Autovector....31 Trap Instruction Vectors.....32-47 [unassigned, reserved].......48-63 User Interrupt Vectors......64-255 :FREE: What is Free-Net and how can I get access? ========================================== A "Remodeled" Atari S.I.G. Opens By now many of you have heard of the Cleveland Freenet, or more specifically the Atari S.I.G. on the Cleveland Freenet. For those who haven't, the Cleveland Freenet is an experimental computer system providing free public community telecomputing. Basically, it's a lot like a public library of the future. Many of these systems are popping up all over the country. Don't be surprised if one pops up in your neighborhood in the future. Recently the Atari SIG has undergone a significant face-lift. All the regular areas are intact including its news sections, user group newsletter, online magazine sections, general as well as specific computer discussion boards (8 bit, 16/32 bit, Lynx, Portfolio), and our weekly Sunday night multi-chat conference. The conference starts at 8pm EST sharp and is on channel "+Ataricon". What the staff at the Atari SIG has added, has given the Atari SIG the potential to cover all grounds of Atari and its related products. The most noticeable addition to the Atari SIG is the Programming and Development Forum. This forum is intended to be used by developers, professional programmers, and Atari hackers (the old definition of "hacker") as a means to share ideas, help each other out, and find out the latest technical information on Atari's products. This board is ran by newly acquired SIG Operator, Peter Haller, a professional programmer who is running developer sections on hardware and software development, programming, MIDI applications development, Graphics Design, plus many other sections that can definitely become a programmer and developer's dream come true! Last, but definitely not least, the Atari SIG has a restructured Product Info and Support Board and a new Special Applications Board. The Support Board includes a vast library of support lists. These lists range anywhere from phone numbers of Atari dealers and producers, to software reviews for 8 bit, 16/32 bit, Lynx, and Portfolio software. To sum it all up this area covers what's out there, who makes it, and how to get it for all Atari products. The Special Applications Board is just starting out. Currently there is an area for users of MIDI on the ST. MIDI users are encouraged to use this as a means to discuss MIDI related topics. This section is expected to expand in the future. Accessing the Atari SIG has never been easier. One can access it via Internet by telenet'ing to 129.22.8.75 or "Freenet-in-b.cwru.edu" or by calling (216) 368-3888 300/1200/2400 bps. Once on the system, a user can apply for an account application and logon as a visitor. Once here, simply type "Go Atari" to get to the Atari SIG. A visitor can go anywhere on the Freenet and can read anything. They can't post messages until they get their permanent accounts, however. For additional information on obtaining access to Freenet write to myself via the e-mail addresses above or by writing the SIG at its US mail address: The Atari SIG P.O. Box 21815 Cleveland, OH 44121 USA Lastly, a freenet application is available in the mail by writing a request to the above address if you rather not download it from Freenet. The Atari SIG is ready to serve the thousands of Atarians throughout the world. We look forward to seeing you all real soon! Remember the staff of the Atari SIG are volunteering their time for no pay and the Cleveland Freenet, as well as the Atari S.I.G., is a non-profit organization existing for the free exchange of information. -- Mark Leair Atari SIG Public Relations Internet e-mail: aa338@Cleveland.Freenet.edu CIS e-mail : internet>aa338@Cleveland.Freenet.edu :MAGS: What magazines are available for the Atari ST? ============================================== The information here is preliminary. If you've got updates, mini-reviews, or more information on other magazines, please send them to me via e-mail. As always, WRITE to a company before sending them money for a subscription. US mags: AtariUser, published by Quill Publishing Company --------- Cover Price: US $1.00 Canada $1.45 UK 1.50 (AtariUser is available for free [$6.00/50 magazine shipping charge] from participating computer dealers, bookstores & user groups!) Subcription Rate: $21.30 US Bulkrate, $41.30 US First Class. Address: AtariUser, 113 W. College Street, Covina, CA 91723 USA Current Notes, published by Current Notes Inc. ------------- Cover Price: US $3.95 Subscription Rate: $27.00/year (Atari clubs registered with Current Notes may subscribe at $23.00/year) US, $35.00/year (Canadian club members at $31/year) Canadian, Foreign rate $44/year. Address: Current Notes Inc., 122 N. Johnson Rd., Sterling, VA 22170 USA Atari Interface: --------------- Write for a free sample copy of the Atari Interface magazine (Unicorn Publications, 3487 Braeburn Circle, Ann Arbor, MI 48108) AIM is soon to be available in Canada, Europe and Mexico, and should be in all local WaldenSoftware stores and many bookstores. If your "local" Atari dealer doesn't have it, he should be able to get it for you... UK Mags: (Thanks to Sam Marshall <samm@castle.edinburgh.ac.uk> and Kevin Busby <kevinb@syma.sussex.ac.uk> for some of the info here.) ST Applications: --------------- formerly the ST Club Newsletter, this is now the only non-games mag in the UK (although see ST World below). Approx. 4,500 copies per issue sold. News, reviews, interviews, tech tips, general forum, programmers' forum, PD catalogue. DTP'd on an ST. Retains a 'user-driven' feel. Recommended. The associated ST Club runs a PD distribution service and distributes a couple of commercial programs too (Fontkit Plus, UIS III, Molgraph, CRL Virus Killer, etc.). Subscription costs: UK - 15 pounds; Europe - 18 pounds (Air Mail); worldwide - 28 pounds (Air Mail) Address: ST Club, 2 Broadway, Nottingham, NG7 1PS, UK. ST World: -------- formerly the leading UK non-games mag. Became a quarterly 'buyer's guide' in Autumn 90. Now, allegedly, about to be revived as a monthly (under the stewardship of Jean Gollner, mother of ex-editor Hugh) in the wake of Atari UK's new push into the 'serious' market. ST Format: --------- all-purpose 150-page monthly, mainly aimed at young people. Lively, but of uneven quality. Big leisure section, but other areas covered too. Includes cover disk - mix of games demos and (usually out of date) PD utilities. Probably the biggest-selling UK ST mag. Has had several public rows with Atari UK. Future Publishing, Somerton, Somerset, TA11 6TB Tel. 0458 74011 Fax 0458 74378 Atari ST User: ------------- like ST Format. Generally (amongst online users) thought to be not quite as good. ST Action: --------- games, games and more games. And games. Atari ST Review: --------------- Lots of info, more mature editorial style than Format, but not so polished. 2 cover disks per issue. Subscriptions: PO Box 500, Leicester, LE99 0AA. Tel: 0858 410510. There are also, I think, some MIDI mags with strong ST content. I don't have their names. German Mags: Atari PD Journal: ---------------- Reviewed in the May '91 issue of Current Notes [from which I'm cribbing this information, DP-Z]. Hardware and Software reviews, some commercial software reviewed. Typical issue runs around 90 pages. Special "Katalog" section. Subscription: DM 70 (normal mail), DM 100 (air mail). Prices may be for domestic distribution -- write first! Address: Heim Verlag, PD Abonnement, Heidleberger Landstrasse 194, 6100 Darmstadt 13 GERMANY ST-Magazin (formerly 68000er): ----------------------------- (monthly) Typical issue: around 150 pages. Includes DTP-magazine CICERO. Subscription: DM 77 (domestic distribution); foreign - write for information Address: ST-Magazin, Markt & Technik Verlag AG, Hans-Pinsel-Strasse 2, D-8013 Haar bei Muenchen GERMANY ST Computer: ----------- 11 issues/year, typical around 180 pages Subscription: DM 80 (domestic), DM 100 (normal mail), DM 130 (air mail) Address: Heim Verlag, Heidelberger Landstr. 194, D-6100 Darmstadt 13 GERMANY :TIPS: TIPS AND HINTS from other users =============================== Any 'multisync' monitor which handles 70 video fields a second can be used with the ST; the custom cable involves no tricks, or commercial ones are available. The original NEC multisync does NOT handle 70 fields a sec. More than 3 bombs often means more than 1 error, so interpretations are tricky. An ST-formatted disk which is not readable by a PC can be made readable by putting the 3 bytes EB 34 90 (those were 3 bytes of hex) at the beginning of the boot sector (sector 1 of track 0, I believe). This can be done with either an ST or PC absolute sector editor. The Desktop of TOS 1.4 and higher does this automatically. Some (older) PC-3.5"-drives cannot deal with the short track-header produced by ST formatters. On those drives, ST-formatted disks are not readable, independent of their boot sector contents. The other way, however, does always work: format on the PC. When using disks formatted on a PC in an ST, make sure to insert and access a disk with a different serial number in between disk changes. For those with the 'inaccessible' mouse and joystick ports, a joystick extender cable will make life easier. The Y-cable joystick extenders make it extremely easy to keep mouse and joystick connected to port 0, and a joystick extender cable in port 1 makes for easy hookup after you've moved the machine. BARREL is a program which can redirect printer-data to a file. It comes in handy when your printer is unavailable, and the program does not already have an option to 'print-to-a-file'. (It is available on the atari.archive server.) DBLEFEAT is a program which can redirect disk access from, say, drive A to drive B. Handy when a program 'hard-codes' the data drive, and you wish to use your hard drive instead. (It is available on the atari.archive server.) On the Desktop of TOS 1.4 or higher, holding the right mouse button allows you to manipulate files in other windows. This is useful for a number of reasons. An example is this: say D:\BLAH.ARC is a file you would like to extract to D:\, but ARC.TTP is on C:\. Top D:\'s window, then hold the right button while double-clicking ARC.TTP in an inactive window. (I've been told this will work on 1.2, and possibly other TOSi.) :ZNET: Where can I get copies of ZNET? =============================== ZNET is now Atari Explorer Online. Please see EXPLOR for more info. :EXPLOR: Where can I get copies of Atari Explorer Online? ================================================ Atari Explorer Online magazine is available on CompuServe and GEnie. You can also get copies mailed to you by sending an e-mail message to stzmagazine-request@virginia.edu indicating you wish to subscribe. They won't get to you on Friday (which is when they're posted), but Greg Lindahl provides an excellent service to the networking community by sending these out. Atari Explorer Online and some information from the Current Notes user magazine are also available from the atari.archive server under /atari/magazines. :PD: Where can I get Public Domain/Shareware software? ========================================================== There are FTP sources and a comp.sources.atari.st/comp.binaries.atari.st mail server. You can also try the commercial on-line services such as GEnie, CompuServe, Delphi and Bix. Using FTP, most files should be retrieved in BINARY format (at least those ending with the suffix of .ARC, .LZH, .ZOO, .PRG, .TTP, .TOS) Mail servers encode files. You will need a program called 'uudecode' in order to change files ending with the suffix .UUE (or .UAB, .UAC, etc.) into their original form. :MAIL: E-Mail file servers archive-server@twitterpater.Eng.Sun.COM: --------------------------------------- Twitterpater holds all of the comp.sources.atari.st / comp.binaries.atari.st postings. If you aren't reading these two newsgroups, you should consider doing so. You may obtain uuencoded files as e-mail. You can obtain a help file by mailing a message to archive-server@twitterpater.eng.sun.com, with the main body of the message being the word 'help'. atari@atari.archive.umich.edu: ----------------------------- The atari.archive server is mentioned many times in this article. It contains a multitude of Atari ST PD and shareware programs. If you don't have access via FTP you can obtain many of the files via e-mail. You should first obtain a help file by mailing a message to atari@atari.archive.umich.edu, with the main body of the message being the word 'help.'. If you are from a uucp site, please enclose this statement also 'path host1!host2!....', where host1!host2!... is your path. Please read the help file completely before you ask questions, and then send any you may have to jon@atari.archive.umich.edu. Any questions about the archive or specific files go to weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu archive-server@lancs.pdsoft: --------------------------- This is a UK public domain archive, available to sites within the UK via via JANET. info-server@Germany.EU.net: --------------------------- This is a german public domain archive. This only has comp.binaries.atari.st and comp.sources.atari.st. archive-server@Germany.EU.net: ------------------------------ Same place as above, but this one carries other software than just comp.binaries.atari.st and comp.sources.atari.st. mail-server@cs.ruu.nl (or uunet!mcsun!hp4nl!ruuinf!mail-server): --------------------------------------------------------------- send the following message begin path john@highbrow.edu (PLEASE SUBSTITUTE *YOUR* ADDRESS) send ATARI-ST/index end NOTE: *** PLEASE USE VALID INTERNET ADDRESSES IF POSSIBLE. DO NOT USE ADDRESSES WITH ! and @ MIXED !!!! BITNETTERS USE USER@HOST.BITNET *** The path command can be deleted if we receive a valid from address in your message. If this is the first time you use our mail server, we suggest you first issue the request: send HELP LISTSERV@UOGUELPH.BITNET: ------------------------ Mail messages with the contents HELP will bring you some usage information and GET PROG-A16 FILELIST will provide you with a list of files. Subscriptions to INFO-A16 are also available on this server. INFO-A16 is a digest of messages from comp.sys.atari.st. :FTP: Anonymous FTP servers Note: The generally accepted practice for FTP use is as follows: 1. Limit access times to non-working hours. This is usually 6-8 pm to 8-9 am LOCAL time. LOCAL time means local to the computer you are accessing! For example, 4 P.M. in Minneapolis, Minnesota is 10 P.M. in England, and 10 A.M. in Germany is 4 A.M. in New York. 2. Once you connect, issue the following commands at your FTP prompt: user anonymous <YOUR e-mail address should be entered at the Password: prompt) ls cd <to the appropriate directory> 3. Limit downloads, especially across the ocean. Remember, there are other people who are using the same lines as you. Atari FTP sites (the list is -not- exhaustive) ---------------------------------------------- atari.archive.umich.edu [141.211.164.8] uk.ac.lancs.pdsoft (available to UK users via JANET) Note: Access is a bit different for this archive site, use the following: user pdsoft pdsoft (at the Password prompt) ftp.Germany.EU.net [192.76.144.75] cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.7.254] archive.cs.ruu.nl [131.211.80.5] :COMP: Atari-related companies ======================= This is a (still under construction) list of companies and addresses that might be of use to Atari ST users. Please send me addresses for the blank ones on this list. See also IAAD, it lists many more companies that are not on this list. BMS E.A. Brown 3404 Pawnee Drive Alexandria Minnesota 56308 Info: 612-762-8847 Orders: 800-322-4405 Product: Software and Hardware distributor GengTec JRI Marvin AG Matrix Datensystem Supra TKR Wittich Computer :IAAD: Independent Atari Developers ============================ (Thanks to Ed Krimen (ekrimen@wet.com) for sending this along) The Independent Association of Atari Developers Member Directory Compiled 6/7/92 Please note: Most IAAD members support users through the bulletin board areas on GEnie. References in this file to "Cat" or "Top" refer to the ST RT bulletin board area; other RTs are designated by name. We welcome your comments and inquiries! James C Allen FAST TECHNOLOGY P.O. Box 578 Andover, MA 01810 508 475 3810 (fax) 508 475 3810 GEnie: J.ALLEN27 Cat4 Top11 Todd Bane Soft-Aware Unlimited 334B North Euclid Avenue Upland, CA 91786 714 985 2348 (fax) 714 982 8409 GEnie: R.SKRALY Cat6 Top4 Steve Barker Flying Pigs Software P.O. Box 688 St. George, UT 84771 801 628 5764 (fax) 801 628 5713 GEnie: STEVE-B BBS: 801 628 5773 David Beckemeyer Beckemeyer Development Tools P.O. Box 21575 Oakland, CA 94620 510 530 0451 (fax) 510 530 9637 GEnie: D.BECKEMEYER Intrnt: david@bdt.CO Cat2 Top34 Robert M Birmingham 13630 SW 101 Lane Miami, FL 33186-2814 305 385 1942 GEnie: R.BIRMINGHA4 CIS: 73637,1120 Cat25 Dorothy A Brumleve D.A. Brumleve P.O. Box 4195 Urbana, IL 61801-8820 217 337 1937 GEnie: D.A.BRUMLEVE Delphi: DABRUMLEVE CIS: 71451,1141 Cat29 Top6 Gilbert Callaghan Double Click Software P.O. Box 741206 Houston, TX 77274-1206 713 977 6520 (fax jack) 713 977 6520 GEnie: DOUBLE-CLICK CIS: 75300,577 BBS: 713 944 0108 Cat30 Phil Comeau Phil Comeau Software 43 Rueter Street Nepean, Ontario Canada K2J 3Z9 613 596 4081 (fax P.C. Soft) 613 825 6721 GEnie: P.COMEAU1 Cat13 Tops7,20 Jay Craswell Dover Research Corp. 321 W. 4th Street Jordan, MN 55352 612 492 3913 GEnie: J.CRASWELL CIS: 73016,27 Craig W Daymon ICD Inc. 1220 Rock Street Rockford, IL 61101 815 968 6888 (fax) 815 968 2228 GEnie: C.DAYMON ICD RT John Eidsvoog CodeHead Technologies P.O. Box 74090 Los Angeles, CA 90004 213 386 5789 (fax) 213 386 5735 GEnie: J.EIDSVOOG1 Cat32 Lauren Flanagan-Sellers Goldleaf Publishing Inc. 700 Larkspur Landing Circle, Suite 199 Larkspur, CA 94939 415 257 3515 GEnie: WORDFLAIR Cat35 Rick Flashman Gribnif Software P.O. Box 350 Hadley, MA 01035 413 584 2565 (fax) 413 584 7887 GEnie: R.FLASHMAN Cat17 David Fletcher Ditek International 2800 John Street, Unit 15 Markham, Ontario Canada L3R 0E2 416 479 1882 (fax) 416 479 1990 GEnie: DITEK Cat6 Top9 / Cat7 Top7 George Geczy JMG Software International, Inc. 892 Upper James Street Hamilton, Ontario Canada L9C 3A5 416 575 0283 (fax) 416 575 3201 GEnie: JMGSOFT BBS: 416 389 9064 Cat6 Top32 Keith Gerdes Double Click Software P.O. Box 741206 Houston, TX 77274-1206 713 977 6520 (fax jack) 713 977 6520 GEnie: DOUBLE-CLICK CIS: 75300,577 BBS: 713 944 0108 Cat30 Tyson T Gill GT Software 12114 Kirton Avenue Cleveland, OH 44135-3612 216 252 4272 GEnie: T.GILL7 CIS: 73467,777 Cat17 Tom Harker ICD, Inc. 1220 Rock Street Rockford, IL 61101 815 968 6888 (fax) 815 968 2228 GEnie: ICDINC ICD RT Doug Harrison 1018 Quail Creek #303 Shreveport, LA 71105 318 869 1292 GEnie: D.S.HARRISON Cat2 Top15 Craig Harvey Clear Thinking P.O. Box 715 Ann Arbor, MI 48105 313 971 8671 GEnie: C.HARVEY BBS: 313 971 6035 Cat2 Top40 John 'Hutch' Hutchinson Fair Dinkum Technologies P.O. Box 2 Los Alamos, NM 87544 505 662 7366 GEnie: FAIR-DINKUM Cat29 Top4 Hagop Janoyan PDC, Inc. 515 Wing Street Glendale, CA 91205 206 348 4276 (fax) 818 242 5692 or 206 745 5980 GEnie: H.JANOYAN3 or PDC.SW Cat13 Tops12,21,22 / Cat10 Top11 / others Charles F Johnson CodeHead Technologies P.O. Box 74090 Los Angeles, CA 90004 213 386 5789 (fax) 213 386 5735 GEnie: C.F.JOHNSON Delphi: CFJ CIS: 76004,2232 Cat32 Todd Johnson Cherry Fonts Unit #4, 2250 Tyner Street Port Coquitlam, B.C. Canada V3C 2Z1 213 386 5735 (CodeHead) GEnie: CHERRY.FONTS Cat32 Top27 Deron Kazmaier Soft-Logik Publishing P.O. Box 290070 St. Louis, MO 63129 314 894 8608 GEnie: DERON.K SOFTLOGIC RT Gene Kane Xerox Corp 101 Continental Blvd. M/S ESC1-945 El Segundo, CA 90245 310 333 2707 GEnie: GENEXRX CIS: 70475,440 Alex Kiernan HiSoft The Old School, Greenfield Bedford, England MK45 5DE +44 525 713716 (fax) +44 525 718181 GEnie: HISOFT Cat3 Top11,14,15 / Cat2 Top30 Hans-Peter Labude Managing Director ICD Europe GmbH Postfach 13 17 Am Goldberg 9 6056 Heusenstamm Germany +49 6104 67581 (fax) +49 6104 6403 GEnie: ICD.GMBH ICD RT Paul W Lee Double Click Software P.O. Box 741206 Houston, TX 77274-1206 713 977 6520 (fax jack) 713 977 6520 GEnie: DOUBLE-CLICK CIS: 75300,577 BBS: 713 944 0108 Cat30 Dave Link HiSoft The Old School, Greenfield Bedford, England MK45 5DE +44 525 713716 (fax) +44 525 718181 GEnie: HISOFT Cat3 Top11,14,15 / Cat2 Top30 Bob Luneski Oregon Research Associates 16200 S.W. Pacific Hwy. Suite 162 Tigard, OR 97224 503 638 6182 (fax) 503 620 4919 GEnie: B.LUNESKI1 Cat2 Top42 Henry Murphy MS Design 611 West Illinois Street Urbana, IL 61801 217 351 6412 (fax) 217 384 8469 GEnie: H.MURPHY Cat5 Top2 Tom Nielsen eSTeem, inc. 72 Shades Crest Road Hoover, AL 35226-1014 205 942 8390 (fax) Answ. Serv.: 205 941 4910 GEnie: ESTEEM Cat29 Top7 Dave Nutkins HiSoft The Old School, Greenfield Bedford, England MK45 5DE +44 525 713716 (fax) +44 525 718181 GEnie: HISOFT Cat3 Top11,14,15 / Cat2 Top30 W. David 'Dr. Bob' Parks WizWorks! P.O. Box 45 Girard, OH 44420 216 539 5623 GEnie: W.PARKS3 Cat7 Top5 William Penner Medical Designs Software 3235 Wright Avenue Bremerton, WA 98310 206 373 4840 GEnie: BPENNER BBS: 206 479 2157 Jay Pierstorff Safari Fonts 606 W. Cross Street Woodland, CA 95695 916 666 1813 (fax) 916 666 1813 GEnie: J.PIERSTORFF Nathan Potechin ISD Marketing, Inc. 2800 John Street, Unit 15 Markham, Ontario Canada L3R 0E2 416 479 1882 (fax) 416 479 1880 GEnie: ISD CIS: 76004,2246 Delphi: ISDMARKETING Cat16 Roger Richards Synergy Resources 754 N. Bolten Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 317 231 4158 (fax) 317 356 6946 GEnie: R.RICHARDS2 Cat2 Top19 George Richardson Merlin Group, Inc. 96 Hoyt Street Kearny, NJ 07032-3311 201 998 0932 (fax) 201 998 4441 GEnie: G.RICHARDSO1 A Ridley Canoe Computer Services GEnie: A.RIDLEY1 Chris Roberts DragonWare Software Inc. P.O. Box 1719 Havre, MT 59501-1719 406 265 9609 GEnie: DRAGONWARE Cat13 Top4 Eric Rosenquist Strata Software 94 Rowe Drive Kanata, Ontario Canada K2L 3Y9 613 591 1922 (fax) 613 591 1922 GEnie: E.ROSENQUIST CIS: 72711,2503 BIX: e rosenquist Cat17 Scott Sanders Software Development Systems 996 Redondo Avenue, #404 Long Beach, CA 90804 310 987 2205 (fax) 310 595 9799 Orders: 800 237 4SDS GEnie: S.SANDERS2 CIS: 71760,2140 Cat2 Top39 Lee Seiler Lexicor 415 453 0271 GEnie: L.SEILER Cat25 Nevin Shalit Step Ahead Software, Inc. 496-A Hudson Street, Suite F39 New York City, NY 10014 212 627 5830 GEnie: NEVIN-S Cat6 Top23 David M Small Gadgets by Small, Inc. 40 West Littleton Blvd., #210-211 Littleton, CO 80120 303 791 0253 (fax) 303 791 6098 GEnie: DAVESMALL GADGETS RT Carl Stanford MS Design 611 West Illinois Street Urbana, IL 61801 217 351 6412 (fax) 217 384 8469 GEnie: C.STANFORD Cat5 Top2 John Stanley DynaSoft Systems 4157 Lyndale Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55409 612 825 4215 GEnie: JLS Internet: jls@dynasoft.mn.org Chuck Steinman DataQue Products P.O. Box 134 Ontario, OH 44862 419 529 5197 (fax) 419 529 9797 GEnie: DATAQUE.1 CIS: 71777,3223 Delphi: DATAQUE Darren Stevens Mind over MIDI Productions PO Box 56522 Lougheed Mall Postal Outlet Burnaby, B.C. Canada V3J 7W2 604 420 6266 (fax) 604 444 4424 GEnie: MINDOVERMIDI Cat 10 Top 15 Craig S Thom ICD, Inc. 1220 Rock Street Rockford, IL 61101 815 968 6888 (fax) 815 968 2228 GEnie: CRAIG.S.THOM ICD RT David Thompson JMG Software International, Inc. 892 Upper James Street Hamilton, Ontario Canada L9C 3A5 416 575 0283 (fax) 416 575 3201 GEnie: D.THOMPSON66 BBS: 416 389 9064 Cat6 Top32 John Trautschold Missionware Software 354 N. Winston Drive Palatine, IL 60067-4132 708 359 9565 GEnie: J.TRAUTSCHOL BIX: jtrautschold CIS: 73250,572 Cat8 Top2 Melinda Turcsanyi MUSICODE Software 5575 Baltimore Drive, Suite 105-127 La Mesa, CA 91942 619 469 7194 GEnie: M.TURCSANYI Ralph Turner Index Legalis Publishing Company P.O. Box 1822-3 Fairfield, IA 52556 515 472 2293 GEnie: R.TURNER10 Michael B Vederman Double Click Software P.O. Box 741206 Houston, TX 77274-1206 713 977 6520 (fax) 713 977 6520 GEnie: DOUBLE-CLICK CIS: 75300,577 BBS: 713 944 0108 Cat30 Clayton Walnum Taylor Ridge Books P.O. Box 78 Manchester, CT 06040 203 643 9673 GEnie: C.WALNUM1 Delphi: ANALOG4 Chet Walters WizWorks! P.O. Box 45 Girard, OH 44420 216 539 5623 GEnie: C.WALTERS1 Cat7 Top13 Norm Weinress Weinress Consulting 3236 Velma Drive Los Angeles CA 90068 213 876 7704 GEnie: N.WEINRESS Cat4 Top12 Doug Wheeler ICD, Inc. 1220 Rock Street Rockford, IL 61101 815 968 6888 (fax) 815 968 2228 GEnie: DOUG.W ICD RT Steve Whitney 655 South Fair Oaks Avenue, I-103 Sunnyvale, CA 94086 815 968 6888 GEnie: S.WHITNEY Cat13 Top14 Dan Wilga Gribnif Software P.O. Box 350 Hadley, MA 01035 413 584 2565 (fax) 413 584 7887 GEnie: GRIBNIF Cat17 Paul Wu Omnimon Peripherals, Inc. One Technology Drive, Bldg 1E, Suite 301 Irvine, CA 92718 714 753 9255 (fax) 714 753 9253 GEnie: WUZTEK.OPI Delphi: OPI Cat4 Tops12,17,31,32 :CREDIT: Who has contributed to the FAQ? =============================== If you've contributed to this FAQ but aren't mentioned here, tell me! David Paschall-Zimbel (davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu) compiled the bulk of the FAQ. Steven Ourada (sourada@iastate.edu) is the current maintainer. Kevin Busby (kevinb@syma.sussex.ac.uk) Ben Gilbert John Henders (jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca) Graham Higgins Stephen Jacobs (saj@chinet.chi.il.us) Michal Jaegermann (NTOMCZAK@vm.ucs.ualberta.ca) Ed Krimen (ekrimen@wet.com) Mark Leair (aa338@Cleveland.Freenet.edu) John Langner J.J. Lehett (JJL101@psuvm.psu.edu) Jari Lehto Darryl May Thomas Omerzu (omerzu@quando.quantum.de) Alan Pratt James Reno (James_Reno.Wbst129@xerox.com) Eric Smith (eric.smith@uwo.ca) Andy Tanenbaum (ast@cs.vu.nl) Shoou-yu Tang (sytang@lamar.colostate.edu) Oddvar Tveito FTO (Oddvar.Tveito@nta.no) Wayne (?) (trek@ihlpb.att.com) John Townsend Roland Waldi ===================================================================== Hope you liked the comp.sys.atari.st FAQ. If you have comments, suggestions, more material, etc., mail me at sourada@iastate.edu Thanks to David Paschall-Zimbel (davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu) for compiling most of this FAQ. Later, Steven Ourada -- ----------------- Steven Ourada Member of the Students for Electronic Freedom Ask me how Iowa State University is censoring my Usenet access! sourada@iastate.edu "can't casts no shadow" -- cummings