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- From: Tom_Klok@mindlink.bc.ca (Tom Klok)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
- Subject: Re: Hardware Questions
- Message-ID: <13737@mindlink.bc.ca>
- Date: 25 Jul 92 12:41:22 GMT
- Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
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- > Jeff McWilliams writes:
- >
- > 1) Does anyone know of a source for a prototyping card, like the apple
- > cards, but with an edge connector containing 25 connecions per side,
- > that will mate with a 50 conductor ribbon cable IDC edgecard connector?
-
- Looking through the catalogs for the some of the local (Vancouver) supply
- houses, I don't see anything with 50 conductor card edges. Lots of 56's,
- though. You could saw/file a 56 down to a 50 without much trouble, although I
- wouldn't want to do a large quantity by hand.
-
- > 2) Does anyone know exactly what the differences are between a standard
- > 6502 and Atari's 6502C used in the XL/XE computers? i.e. exactly
- > what did they change, and therefore what would need to be added
- > to say, a 65C02, to plug wire it into an XL/XE?
-
- Ack, I lent my Sams Photofax schematics on the XL/XE's to a friend last year,
- and I still haven't seen them back. :(
-
- Do you have a copy of the Hardware Manual? If so, turn to the schematic of the
- old (rev A) CPU board with the true 6502. Note these two TTL parts:
-
- Z301 - 74LS02 quad nor gate
- Z302 - 7474 dual D-type flipflop with preset and clear
-
- I'm not exactly sure how this stuff works. Digging around with a scope would
- tell the full story. But it looks like Antic generates clk0 and -halt. These
- are massaged by the TTL parts into clk0 for the CPU, as well as clk1, clk2 and
- r/-w for the rest of the system. This stuff is basically glue to allow Antic
- to take over the bus cleanly during Antic's DMA. The CPU-generated clk1 and
- clk2 aren't connected, since they would contain wierd burps whenever Antic went
- after the bus.
-
- Since I'm without XL/XE schematics, I don't have anything on the 6502C. But
- from memory, this clock stuff is what was moved to the 6502C chip.
-
- I'd guess that those two chips are all that is needed parts-wise to get a
- R65C02 into an XL/XE. The problem is... you won't find everything you need on
- the CPU socket, so a simple daughtercard won't work. You'll have to cut a few
- traces on the motherboard and run lines to the daughtercard.
-
- I took the easy route out on my 400. I found someone with a rev A CPU board in
- his 800 who didn't care about CPU upgrades and swapped cards with him. Then I
- stuck in a 3 MHz R65C02 (same price as the 2 MHz part, still ran at 1.79.) But
- after a bit of playing, I went back to the trusty XL... I preferred Sparta 3.2,
- and I hated the 400's keyboard. :)
-
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- Tom Klok MIND LINK! Support team member - Vancouver BC
- a344@mindlink.bc.ca What, me hurry? -- Alfred E. Von Neuman
-