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- From: fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
- Subject: Re: Jpeg for the GS
- Message-ID: <f3l303y743mr00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>
- Date: 24 Jul 92 20:32:14 GMT
- References: <1992Jul21.155143.28113@sdf.lonestar.org> <bill.711807511@braille.uwo.ca>
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- In article <bill.711807511@braille.uwo.ca> bill@braille.uwo.ca (Bill Carss) writes:
- >
- >This is one of the many areas about which I know very little. According to
- >several friends of mine who are system level programmers JPeg is a flawed
- >system. After packing and unpacking GIFs or whatever you begin to loose some
- >of the picture quality. I would be willing to bet that the same could be
- >said for any version of the process.
-
- What a strange thing to say.
-
- The JPEG scheme is, by definition, a "lossy" compression scheme. (You don't
- pack GIFs with it; it's similar in function to GIF.) Why would anyone want a
- scheme which degrades picture quality? Because you can squash pictures down
- to 10 or 20% of their original size.
-
- It's intended for "real world" scanned-in images, which are usually so grainy
- that you can't see any loss in quality. Unless you require super-resolution
- and high quality (certainly not needed for alt.binaries.pictures.*), it's a
- good way to go, because the amount of storage required and the time to transmit
- images is dramatically reduced.
-
- I think you had the right idea, but "flawed" is certainly the wrong word.
- Don't forget that ACE (Audio Compression & Expansion, available as a toolset
- on the //gs) is also a lossy scheme.
-
- As far as a JPEG viewer goes, there isn't one. Decoding JPEG is much more
- time consuming than decoding GIF; it requires a lot of multiplies and divides,
- which the '816 isn't particularly adept at. An assembly version of the JPEG
- decoder would be reasonably fast, but the format is more complicated than GIF
- and so nobody has stepped forward to tackle it (instead we get 20 different
- GIF decoders...)
-
- The JPEG decoder available on tybalt (as a //gs shell EXE only) will convert
- JPEG to GIF, which will allow you to view them with existing software. Having
- an actual JPEG viewer would just remove the intermediate step (though it might
- provide a few more decoding options...).
-
- >Bill Carss
- >bill@braille.uwo.ca
-
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- fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
- [ Above opinions are mine, Amdahl has nothing to do with them, etc, etc. ]
-