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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: Comp.binaries.apple2 moderation: why not?
- Message-ID: <!!hm!1+.payner@netcom.com>
- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 23:20:53 GMT
- Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
- References: <6986@lib.tmc.edu> <qcgmbyl.payner@netcom.com> <1992Jul23.162244.18192@unlinfo.unl.edu>
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- In article <1992Jul23.162244.18192@unlinfo.unl.edu> gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...) writes:
- >payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
- >>jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
- >>>payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
- >
- >>>>Because the cost of the solution could be very great. Moderation has
- >>>>made the ms-dos binaries group an absolute joke.
- >
- >>And they cannot even decide on a standard compressor. Everyone seems to want
- >>zip, except the moderator(s?), who want zoo. It is really amusing reading the
- >>.d group. If the apple2 binaries were moderated, we would probably still be
- >>using executioner format.
- >
- >You are making claims which you know are not true. The charter clearly
- >states that BinSCII will be used. If/when BinSCII II comes out, and it
- >gains general acceptance, then it will replace BinSCII I in c.b.a2.
-
- Look again, I was pointing out a problem in a moderated group. It has
- not been solved.
-
- >>>I find the moderation to be a seriously Good Thing, and
- >>>can't understand why you're so avidly seeking the group you'll get without
- >>>moderation: full of non-binaries, and those that are there are barely tested
- >>>and quite possibly full of viruses.
- >
- >>We -have- a perfectly servicable binaries group -without- moderation. There
- >>has been no virus problem, and a new virus would not be caught anyway.
- >
- >There are pieces of code which are common among destructive viruses.
- >The presence of such code will be checked, so even some new viruses will
- >be caught. (There was one program posted at one time that the author
- >had said he had run such a virus checking program on, and that it had a
- >false positive.)
-
- I imagine that there might be some new vectors with the new GS/OS out.
-
- >>The
- >>non-binaries posts are just a minor annoyance.
- >
- >Which become major annoyances when the new students get their accounts
- >in the Fall, and the discussion posts again outnumber the binaries.
-
- No more an annoyance than passing a thread you have no interest in.
-
- >>And there have no strong arguments for -changing- something that works quite
- >>well.
- >
- >Not everyone here believes that comp.binaries.apple2 "works quite well"
- >as is.
-
- So, not everyone believes that it is broken either. This is the reason for
- the vote.
-
- >>>You need look no farther than alt.sources
- >>>to bear the former out, and what better distribution channel than Usenet for a
- >>>brand new virus?
- >
- >>Vote as you wish, I vote no. There has not been one single strong reason for
- >>the change. Some say that the little things add up to something we need, but
- >>I do not see it, and many others do not as well.
- >
- >And I have yet to see one single strong reason for it not to be changed.
- >Both sides do add up, but the for side, even with all its so-called
- >minor points, still end up with a total greater than the negative side.
-
- Since the proposal is to -add- moderation, this is what must be supported.
- The proposal is not to remove moderation, or to not add moderation. Can
- anyone focus upon the issue? Or is it just me? No reasons for not moderating
- is zero reason for moderating. Like creationists who feel that crushing
- evolution will verify creation, it will not.
-
- The job is to show -why- moderation is needed. The reasons are weak. So
- it is left to a matter of preferance. Lets wait for the vote.
-
- >>Rich
- >>payner@netcom.com
- >
- >-- gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...)
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