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- From: James_Hastings-Trew@telepro.UUCP (James Hastings-Trew)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
- Subject: Re: Re: Re: IV24 and OPALVISION owners
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- Message-ID: <James_Hastings-Trew.0hv0@telepro.UUCP>
- Date: 22 Jul 92 23:00:00 CST
- Organization: TelePro Technologies
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- In a message dated Wed 22 Jul 92 5:44, Joeles@cup.portal.com (joel Edward
- wrote:
-
- JE> Again you've refused to read the statement. The question is FONT,
- JE> NOT LETTER.
-
- I haven't refused to read the statement. It is just that the statement was
- nonsensical.
-
- The original question was whether or not a particular graphics card was
- going to produce a higher resolution on a screen by cramming all of the
- pixels closer together. The suggestion was to put a font on the screen and
- measure it to see if it was the right size. Aside from the obvious answer
- that if you put more pixels on a fixed size monitor, of course everthing
- will be smaller, the advice to measure a font is nonsensical.
-
- No letter has both ascenders and descenders. Therefore, there is no one
- single character that you can measure that will BE the point size that is
- given. You would have to stretch your measurement across two different,
- disconnecte items, which would be innaccurate at best. I suppose that lines
- could be drawn on the screen, but this is getting silly.
-
- You can only measure LETTERS. You could put a captial letter E and a
- lowercase g on the screen, but again, the size you get would be completely
- dependent upon the STYLE of the font family chosen, not the point size.
- What if the font I choose to measure is Copperplate, or Machine, or some
- other font that has no lowercase letters? What then? What if the font was
- like Gill, with truncated, rounded descenders, or like FreeStyle Script
- with long looping descenders?
-
- JE> The modern day concept is font families, not cast type from the turn
- JE> of the century.
-
- The only change in nomenclature from the turn of the century to now is that
- the old usage of the word "font" meant a complete set of characters of a
- given typeface and point size. Since modern type is scalable, the word
- "font" now means a complete set of characters in a given typeface.
- Ignorance of the roots of words and concepts is what leads us to false
- assumptions like the ones you are making.
-
- JE> I've worked in one. I have one. Leading is figured in addition to
- JE> the font size. The font does not include leading as you seemed to
- JE> suggest.
-
- Actually, leading is included in all modern electronic typefaces. It might
- also interest you to know that different typefaces will have different
- amounts of leading, so that "tight-set" type in different fonts will end up
- with slightly different line-spacing. Pull up a word processor on a Mac,
- like Microsoft Word - one that does not specify leading in the traditional
- sense, but instead uses the leading built into the fonts. Set some type and
- then change the font. Do this a number of times, and watch the line
- spacing. In a page layout program, set some type 24 point on 24 point
- leading. Do the ascenders and descenders touch?
-
- Question: If a client says he wants a 3 inch high headline, what do you
- give him? The answer is NOT 216 point type. The answer is 324 point type.
- You can tell him you were measuring the distance from the descenders to the
- ascenders, but he probably still won't be happy. :) And if you don't know
- the 2/3 rule, I suppose you would be stuck measuring your typesetters guide
- with a linegauge -- not a pretty sight... :)
-
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