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- From: rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca (Russell McOrmond)
- Message-ID: <rwm.712340654@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca>
- Date: 28 Jul 92 10:24:14 EST
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
- Subject: Re: GVP multi-port card
- In-Reply-To: kehlet@kehlet.adsp.sub.org (Jesper Kehlet)
- References: <kehlet.05sq@kehlet.adsp.sub.org>
- <1992Jul20.220100.22197@afterlife.ncsc.mil>
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- kehlet@kehlet.adsp.sub.org (Jesper Kehlet) writes:
- >In article <1992Jul27.044951.8006@afterlife.ncsc.mil> bkwilli@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Bryan Williams) writes:
- >> In response to:
- >> >Article 5247 (46 more) in comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:
- >> >From: rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca (Russell McOrmond)
- >> > When you buy a PC card, you are getting just that - a CARD. When you buy an
- >> >Amiga serial device solution, you get a serial board AND a driver.
-
- >> Yes, that is true. BUT I think you jumped off the dock, over the boat, and into
- >> the water on the other side. The nice thing about PC's is that they DON'T NEED
- >> EXTRA SOFTWARE!!!! It is all supported through the COM1: thru COM4: bios
- >> support, plug & play, basically. It isn't quite that simple, but it isn't
- >> impossible to do either. -- ie, port jumper selection, IRQ, etc.
-
- >Come on! The BIOS fossil drivers are NOT supporting serial comms properly.
- >In fact, serial access is supported so badly, that you will HAVE TO write
- >your own driver, if it is to work properly...
-
- Hmmm - I didn't get the origional response, but the part you quoted was
- almost funny. I guess this person hasn't clued into the fact that every
- piece of hardware for a PC has to
-
- a) Be hardware compatable with some ancient card (In the case of
- serial ports, the 8250 chip)
- b) Requires piles of stupid code inside EACH APPLICATION that wants to
- use the card.
-
- I'm always surprised with the number of people that don't understand what
- an O.S. is, and that applications should be totally hardware independant.
- I like my Amiga where I can choose whater wild hardware I want, and only
- have to deal with writing a driver to interface BETWEEN the
- hardware and the application. I can make a DMA serial card based on
- old vic-20 motherboards(Or whatever), and instantly I can use it with
- JRComm, DLG, Welmat, whatever - Funny, it's not "Denise Compatable" like
- the silly IBM's where I'd have to make it 8250 compatable.
-
-
- P.S. If anyone is going to try to argue my point with trying to add
- in the FOSSIL (Fido/Opus/Seadog Serial Interface Layer), one only needs
- to look at the specifications of the FOSSIL, and of serial.device to
- realize that the serial.device is just a FOSSIL with more features, and
- a more standardized interface (When compared to the rest of the O.S.)
- I've programmed with both - While I wouldn't consder programming 'direct
- to the hardware' on a PC and always use the FOSSIL standard, I much prefer
- using the serial.device as it's considerably better done.
-
- > Jesper Kehlet, Compos Mentis Software Systems -- A Kind Of Magic
- > (uunet|pyramid|rutgers)!cbmvax!cbmehq!cbmden!kehlet!kehlet
- > cbmehq!cbmden!kehlet!kehlet@cbmvax.commodore.com
- --
- Opinions expressed in this message are my Own. I represent nobody else.
- Russell McOrmond rwm@Atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca Net Support:(613) 230-2282(V.32Bis)
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