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- Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
- Path: sparky!uunet!bostech!weare
- From: weare@bostech.com (Ged Weare)
- Subject: Re: Help wanted: Interlan Ethernet drivers
- Message-ID: <1992Jul23.161641.12328@bostech.com>
- Organization: Boston Technology, Wakefield, MA
- References: <1992Jul17.180609.11685@bostech.com> <241@warlord.UUCP>
- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 16:16:41 GMT
- Lines: 81
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- In article <241@warlord.UUCP> mhw@warlord.UUCP (Michael H. Warfield) writes:
- >
- >> [stuff deleted]
- >
- > Hmm... Same here. It's a catch 22. I got the boards basically
- >because they were excess and useless for a commercial application (read
- >that as "Your software is way overpriced!!!!"). I have the klunky DOS
- >package but I need drivers for SCO UNIX. All personal stuff. Nobody
- >in there right commercial minds will touch the things because they can
- >get better boards and MUCH better software for less than the price of
- >the drivers for the board!
- >
- Yeah, the unix package is overpriced, as far as private use goes. As far
- as being clunky, I can't say. NCM did say they had vastly improved the
- TCP package for unix. You're right about price; I can buy a version of
- SysVR4 with TCP for $500, plus an Etherlink or something for less than
- $100.
-
- >
- > I got refered to NCM (I don't remember what that stands for). They
- >seem to be supplying the software for the boards. They can quote you
- >separate software packages for a lot of configurations, including upgrades.
- >HOWEVER.... The individual I talk to didn't seem real enthusiastic. I
- >got the feeling he was being put out to even be discussing the subject with
- >some lowly individual. They also want around $500 just for the SCO drivers.
- >Needless to say, there are better routes to go than that. I don't know
- >if they have anything for the ATT stuff but their number is 1-800-786-3696.
- >As I say - their rep had a real attitude and their pricing sucks so lots'a
- >luck.
- >
- > I do a lot of consulting as well as my normal job as an Engineering
- >VP for an outfit down here in Georgia. My recommendation to anyone, after
- >that encounter with NCM, is to avoid Interlan products like the plague!
- >If that's their attitude to a consultant who can recommend for or against
- >their products, heaven help the poor user who is stuck with them!
- >> [stuff deleted]
- > Yea, my dozen or so are now collecting dust. And Interlan has
- >already lost several sales as a direct result! Anyone asking or consulting
- >me will get told that the software was so expensive I could not justify
- >even evaluating the boards. And I certainly would never recommend something
- >that I couldn't even evaluate!
- >
- > Michael H. Warfield
- > mhw@warlord.uucp
-
- Well, I gotta say, in a pathetic attempt at fairness, that I had nothing but
- good service from both Interlan (Ooops, Racal-Datacom), and from NCM. They
- did try hard to help me. I talked to three or four different NCM people,
- including a technical guy. They even called me back! In fact, a supervisor
- called me back to ask if I'd been treated right. I have to admit I was.
- I'm bummed that I can't get a unix driver, but that's their marketing
- policy, so I have to respect it, but not like it. I agree with your
- comments about losing sales through restrictive marketing policies (how
- many copies of OS/2 would sell if IBM didn't do cheap competitive upgrades?).
- Plus I kinda feel a hardware vendor ought to publish enough info for
- a purchaser to write his own software. Actually, the situation is
- strange here, with one company making the HW (Racal Datacomm), and another
- selling SW packages; maybe R-D can be persuaded to publish the NP600
- interface, so they sell more boards? May lose NCM some sales (actually
- doubtful, at $1K per), but what does R-D care?
-
- I also have to thank the many people who replied to my post (this included
- several Interlan people). Currently, I have the NP600 working for DOS in a
- 386. I got pkt, NDIS and ODI drivers from the Racal Datacomm BBS, and some
- shims and got ka9q working at least. I couldn't get it to work in my old
- 286, because (I think) the 286 doesn't like bus-mastering (which the card
- seems to need). I also got DOS diagnostics. I ended up using the ODI
- driver, b/c it didn't need any non-PD software (the pkt driver was not
- a .COM file, still can't figure *that* one out).
-
- As I said, still no unix. The only un-explored avenue was that one of
- the NCM people said (or implied, or atleast I inferred) that the NP600
- might work in NI6510 (?) mode, as a dumb card. That should not need
- bus mastering, so I plan to check it out.
-
-
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