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- From: brianb@wc.novell.com (Brian Bulkowski)
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- Subject: Re: Abusing laserwriters, help!
- Message-ID: <1992Jul30.210224.8144@novell.com>
- Date: 30 Jul 92 21:02:24 GMT
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- Hi Mark, direct mail wouldn't send (some problem on my end...), and
- I think this discourse might help someone out there anyway, so
- here's a few thoughts on Printer Accounting...
-
- Netware for Macintosh, v3.01 and up, has print accounting and security.
- The security method is that we require an AFP session be opened to the
- print server with the queues, and we use Netware accounting methods
- to keep track of charges.
-
- So, you buy one copy of netware, and advertise all your print queues from
- it. Assuming you run phase II, you can have queues advertised from different
- zones from the same server. Students must print through the queues due to
- printer hiding (not very secure, but pretty darn good). You have to create
- usernames, passwords, administration for all those students on that netware
- server :-(!
-
- Since the single netware server can accept up to 25 connections for a single
- queue at a time, this might also decrease waiting, but the students would
- have to be aware of the queue, and you have problems with error notification -
- (queue gets jammed due to lack of paper, nothing comes out, student with job
- that errored gets notification on their mac, but they ignore it, everyone
- else starts howling....)
-
- Anyway, maybe it's a solution you should look into. It ain't cheap, but neither
- is your current situation.
-
- BrianB
-
- I
-
- In article <1992Jul28.093133.23239@ccsd.uts.EDU.AU>, Mark Andrew Hacker <hacker@uts.edu.au> writes:
- >
- > I have had this problem for some years now, and everywhere I look there
- > is no real answers to the problem. In a University (or any institution)
- > where there are Laserwriters, students tend to abuse the right to print.
- >
- > I need a workable solution to this problem. I am using Access Managed
- > Environment (AME) security software to discourage "outsiders" from using
- > our facilities. But, it's our own students who constantly print (we
- > printed in the last semester about 60,000 pages!).
- >
- > The only product that had any hope was one called Printguard. This was
- > the best solution so far. It was a system of key-disk protection. You
- > gave (sold) the students key disks with say 50 prints on it. Each time
- > the Mac printed Printguard would ask for a key disk, and then deduct one
- > credit from it. This way we could give our students a set amount of
- > prints, and when used up they would have to purchase more credits
- > (disks). Problem, the company has "shelved" the project so far, and no
- > news on it ever getting finished.
- >
- > Any ideas anyone? If someone has a product, I know they would make some
- > real money out it.
- >
- > Thanks for thinking about this one.
- >
- > .
- > Mark A. Hacker
- > Design Computing Unit
- > School of Design
- > University of Technology,Sydney.
- > Australia
- > Phone (02) 330 2917 Fax (612) 330 2933
- > Alink: AUST0475 Internet: hacker@uts.edu.au
- >
- >
-