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- From: Joe Niski <niski@ssd.intel.com>
- Subject: Re: ARAP and User&Groups files?
- Message-ID: <1992Jul22.010130.22665@SSD.intel.com>
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- Organization: Intel Supercomputer Systems Division
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- References: <1992Jul21.214321.16813@bwdls61.bnr.ca>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:01:30 GMT
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- >I have a bank of Macs acting as an interim ARAP server pool behind
- >a PBX hunt group. I'd like them to share a common User & Groups
- >file to simplify administration. Any user can end up on any mac in the
- >hunt group, so the User&Groups files must be identical across all the
- >Macs. I've had problems aliasing the individual User&Groups files all
- >back to one User&Group file - any tips and/or hints as to what I'm doing
- >wrong? Or even: anyone doing this? Then I'll know to keep trying.
-
- a subject near and dear to my heart! i have the same setup, an 800# into
- the office, which rolls over to one of four macs. Back in the early days
- of System 7, an Apple Systems Engineer told me that using an alias to
- reference a User&Groups data file on another machine wouldn't work,
- something about the file already being open on the machine the alias
- points to. It would make maintaing multiple "servers" on a network
- rather easy -- too easy, i guess.
-
- >PS. Any news on a tool to transfer ascii files of userids into User &
- >Groups file format, so userids on AppleShare 3.0 servers can be
- maintained
- >from a centralized userid database?
-
- that makes so much sense, why hasn't someone done it already? One
- developer i recently spoke with at the MacTivity '92 conference (he makes
- a AFP file server based on Intel technology) said Apple refused to open
- up the User&Groups file format to him. So, his 3rd-party AppleShare
- server uses a proprietary file structure.
-
- i recently had the chance to evaluate a Shiva LANRover, in the hopes of
- improving our ARA setup; the LanRover is a very affordable box (~$700 US)
- - plug a modem in one end, LocalTalk into the other, and you have an ARA
- server for less than the price of a Mac Classic. It worked just fine,
- but (you guessed it), it's user & password file is not the same format as
- Apple's, Shiva doesn't have a conversion utility, and users can't change
- their own passwords over the network - password changes can only be made
- by the administrator's application. On the bright side, it will let you
- download the same user file to multiple LanRovers.
-
- On an even brighter side, Apple folks did some nice demos of OCE at the
- Mactivity conference - just what we've been waiting for, real name
- service for AppleTalk networks. Let's hope someone ships a gateway for
- NIS or Kerberos......
-
-
- >Ben Schmidt,P.Eng Network Applications, Bell-Northern Research
- >bschmidt@bnr.ca FAX:613-763-3283 /* My opinions, not BNR's */
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- Joe Niski niski@ssd.intel.com
- Macintosh (yes, Macintosh) Newtwork Admin.
- Intel Supercomputer Systems Division
- Beaverton, OR USA
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