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- From: simon@SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG (Alan Simon)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
- Subject: Response Summary: How can I limit the number of simultaneous users of
- a DCL program?
- Message-ID: <0095E4A4.B301D920.24508@shrsys.hslc.org>
- Date: 29 Jul 92 12:52:35 GMT
- Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU
- Organization: The Internet
- Lines: 96
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- On 27 July I asked:
-
- > I have a multiple use, captive, restricted account that uses a DCL menu to
- > access several unrestricted DCL applications, as well a DCL application that I
- > would like to limit. Is there any way that I can easily check the number of
- > current simultaneous accesses when a user of this account tries to access the
- > DCL file, and not allow the user to access it if the number of accesses has
- > reached the limit that I have set? Unless someone has already programmed this
- > capability and can provide me with the source code and/or the executables, I
- > need a DCL solution, since I am not a system programmer.
-
- My thanks to the following people who responded:
-
- Bob Marshall
- Ron Tencati
- Rob Young
- Brian Reed
- Robert Meyering
- Steve Gibbons
- Eric Zipp
- Charles Bailey
- Ehud Gavron
- J.F. Murphy
- Tom Brand
- Ian Kitching
-
- Here are the ideas I received. The number of ideas is more than the number of
- respondents because of more than one idea from several respondents.
-
- Three respondents suggested installing the image and then using INSTALL/LIST to
- check the number of users. Unfortunately, the application is a database
- application used with several different databases, and I only want to limit
- use of one database.
- -----
- Three respondents suggested checking SHOW DEVICE/FILES and counting the number
- of file accesses by the relevant username. This would work, as long as I
- created a unique command file name to access the application.
- -----
- Several respondents suggested using disk files as counters:
-
- One respondent suggested creating "n" versions of a file, and then having each
- user open one file until all the files are opened, at which time the next user
- would be denied access. This is nice, because OPEN/WRITE will open the first
- available version of a file, allowing a middle-numbered version to be re-opened
- by a new user after the first user logs off. However, this means that I would
- have to create "n" versions for each username/application combination that I
- wish to restrict (because I want to variably restrict users) and it would mean
- taking up disk space and creating unnecessary disk i/o activity everytime a
- user accessed the application.
-
- One respondent suggested creating a new version of a dummy file before
- application execution, and diallowing access if the version number is above
- the access limit. However, this does not take into account those users that
- log in after other users log off, since the version numbers would continue to
- increment past the limit.
-
- One respondent suggested creating a file before application execution
- including the user's PID, such as 'PID'_CAPTIVE.DAT, and then counting the
- number of files created to check the number of current accesses. This would
- work, although it too involves disk storage and i/o.
-
- One respondent suggested incrementing a counter in a new version of a file each
- time the application was accessed, reading the counter from the old version.
- Disk i/o problem again.
- -----
- One respondent suggested setting MAXJOBS in AUTHORIZE. The user accounts are
- not dedicated to this application, so counting the number of processes with
- the same name would give a false reading.
- -----
- One respondent suggested creating a unique process name/number by a command in
- the account's LOGIN.COM, and then scanning the process name table for all
- occurrences of that name. As in the previous suggestion, because the user
- accounts are not dedicated to this application, this won't work.
- -----
- One respondent sent FORTRAN code for limiting access to one login per account,
- suggesting that perhaps it could be modified to check for the number of times
- an image was running. This does not solve the problem I posed, but it does
- give me the answer to an additional need to limit some users to one login.
- Serendipity strikes again!
- -----
- Two respondents suggested creating a logical name table at bootup that would
- contain a account/application-specific logical set to the current number of
- users of the application. As each user logged in and out, the user would
- increment or decrement the number by re-defining the logical. This is the
- method I have decided to use, since it accesses fast memory, not slow disk,
- and allows me to see at a glance how many users of that account are accessing
- the application.
-
- Thanks again to all who responded.
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