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- From: orville%weyrich@tnet.com (Orville R. Weyrich)
- Subject: Re: Including OS/2 in a small work-group
- Message-ID: <1992Jul30.104534.144@weyrich.UUCP>
- Sender: orville@weyrich.UUCP (Orville R. Weyrich)
- Reply-To: tnet.com!weyrich!orville
- Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
- References: <1992Jul26.070826.6464@weyrich.UUCP> <1992Jul27.152021.9219@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 10:45:34 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul27.152021.9219@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu> rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard Warner) writes:
- >orville%weyrich@tnet.com (Orville R. Weyrich) writes:
- >
- >>For about $300/node I can set up TCP/IP and NFS to share files between
- >>OS/2 and MS-DOS/Windows platforms :-(
-
- While I can easily justify the hardware and software costs of OS/2 for a
- server or client/server node, in many applications a simple 286 running
- a single client application with DOS/Windows/Novell Lite is the most cost-
- effective solution, especially when the 286 computers already exist and can't
- be easily upgraded to 386's [i.e. old memory chips won't plug into new
- motherboards.]
-
-
- >>If I leave OS/2 out of the picture, I can use Novell NetWare Lite to get
- >>the same functionality as TCP/IP and NFS in a small local area net, for
- >>only about $70/node. :-)
- >
- >>But then I am stuck with a FAT file system. :-(
- >
- >>What I really want is Novell NetWare Lite for OS/2 or else a much cheaper
- >>source for TCP/IP and NFS for DOS/Windows [I want DOS nodes to be able to
- >>"publish" network volumes as well as "mount" them.]
- >
- >TCP stacks can be had for cheap (nothing - using CUTCP or NCSA). NFS is
- >expensive, generally, because it is costly to implement. Development
- >costs are high, plus NFS vendors pay Sun a license fee ....
-
- Why is Novell Lite so much cheaper than NFS for the MS-DOS side? It seems
- to have at least as much functionality. I don't mind paying several hundred
- dollars for the OS/2 node, but I really object to paying that much for
- a MS-DOS PC. Surely the licence fee to Sun is not a couple hundred dollars
- per PC node.
-
- >>Or have the vendors involved (Novell, IBM, etc.) conspired to suppress
- >>the functionality that I want in order to enhance sales of more expensive
- >>solutions [that may be worth it if I needed their full functionality,
- >>which I don't]? :-(
- >
- >It seems as if everyone is quick to postulate 'conspiracy' when the price
- >of a product does not fit their expectations. Again, you can get
- >TCP stacks for little/nothing (CUTCP/NCSA). IBM has to cover the costs
- >of development, distribution, and support for their product. NFS
-
- As I said, I don't mind paying several hundred dollars for an OS/2 version
- that will work with the cheap ($70) MS-DOS nodes.
-
- >products have these same costs, with the added burden of license payments
- >to Sun. There is only one 'free' NFS implementation - SOSS. But this
-
- Where do I get SOSS?
-
- >is the server side of NFS, not the client side that you want. The NFS
- >client market is owned by Sun; the only other major player in this
-
- Does Sun hold legal title to this market? Or do they "own" the
- market only by virtue of nobody else taking the trouble to code their
- own? While a UNIX client might be hard to implement, I can't imagine
- a MS-DOS client/server being that hard. The specs have been published,
- haven't they?
-
- >Peer-to-peer networks are a niche market. IBM had one - the IBM LAN
- >program - which was a dog. It required a lot of memory, and then ran
- >at tortoise speeds. Novell ate it for lunch and ArtiSoft (LANtastic)
- >picked up the crumbs. Now with OS/2 and other OS's on the horizon there
- >may be new markets for peer-to-peer, but it will take a while for
- >offerings to show up and then market acceptance will determine how long
- >they stay.
-
- Novell Lite meets my needs and expectations for MS-DOS platforms. I see
- no reason why it would be a dog on an OS/2 platform.
-
- >There is another option you have ignored, but it is not that cheap and
- >it definitely leaves out you 8088/6 boxes. That is DesqView/X. DVX
- >can run over IPX, so you could have a Netware-lite LAN and then run
- >DVX on the clients. Not 'publishing' the way you want, but it does
- >permit peer-to-peer access. Cost of DVX is $180 at our local store.
-
- Could you please elaborate?
-
-
- orville
-
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