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- From: soh3@quads.uchicago.edu (min-woong sohn)
- Subject: Re: Paid Microsoft employees
- Message-ID: <1992Jul21.041629.17955@midway.uchicago.edu>
- Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
- Reply-To: soh3@midway.uchicago.edu
- Organization: University of Chicago, Dept of sociology
- References: <1992Jul16.211245.22877@microsoft.com> <1992Jul20.062510.929@midway.uchicago.edu> <1992Jul20.193354.22275@microsoft.com>
- Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 04:16:29 GMT
- Lines: 74
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- In article <1992Jul20.193354.22275@microsoft.com> philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara) writes:
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- >>Nope. Not really. A Ford car salesman posts a news in a thread in
- >>which people talks about a GM car and says you can buy a Ford car for less.
- >>Then, what would you say. And how do you know that in that context
- >>the people would in any way be interested in the other alternative, say,
- >>a Ford car or a MSC package?
- >
- > I don't see that it makes a difference - information is information,
- >and can't harm anyone. If there is a Ford car available for less than
- >a car I am considering buying, I would like that information - I can
- >use it to make a more informed choice.
- > Consider this: If the exact same post, word for word, came
- >from a .edu site, would you have had the same reaction? If not,
- >why?
-
- No. It would react to a post coming from a .edu site. In fact, I have
- a two different standards, one for those who do not have any motive or
- vested interest in the product in question and another for those who
- *do* have motive and vested interest in it. Thus, I would naturally
- assume that a post from .edu is a post from the viewpoint of a consumer of
- a product. On the other hand, a post from a microsoft.com when the
- product in question is MS's or its competitor's is an entirely different
- matter and must be treated differently. Remeber that I do not object to
- any posts from .com site. On the contrary, my main objection was to
- the kinds of posts that is objectionable by definition: a definition that
- is accepted and assumed to be accepted by all parties on the net, which
- is the use of the net should be fair and should not be used to the interest
- of any single party. Yes, a post from a .com site can also be disinterested
- and informative and these are the posts more than welcome on the net.
-
- >
- >
- >>> You also seem to have this idea that people have to be nice to
- >>>their competitors. Please justify this.
- >>
- >>Nope. I do not have such illusion. It is against nettiquette not to be
- >>polite even to your competitor. So I do not defend this myself. You
- >>should defend yourself on this point. Where do you get the idea that
- >>you can be nasty (not to be nice, so to speak) on your competitor on the
- >>net, a public forum (may I remind you)?
- >
- > Min, you are a hypocrite. You tried to flame me several times in
- >another thread, and now have the gall to post about "nettiquette".
- >Please...
-
- Flame and nettiquette? What do these two have in common? Don't you think
- you were flamed because I perceived that you were not honoring the nettiquette
- in the first place? Don't you still get it? I was trying to communicate
- and you wouldn't listen.
-
- I think I justified my position when you asked to do. And when I asked
- you to defend yourself, you instead chosed to flame me. But what I really
- feel is necessary on your part is to answer the question whether you feel
- you're morally and ethically justified **not to be nice to your competitors**
- on the net as you seemed to think. Please answer.
-
- >>>> Also have you seen
- >>>>many people other than microsoft employees defending windows?
- >>>
- >>> Yes. Which newgroup have you been reading?
- >>
- >>The same news group as you are in, and still I have only one person
- >>denying this point (of course, he was not from MS). One does not make
- >>many. Get the fact, Phil.
- >
- > Maybe your newsfeed isn't working properly...
-
- Get the fact and count the posts. My newsfeed works just fine.
-
- Min
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