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- From: shite@sinkhole.unf.edu (Stephen Hite)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
- Subject: Re: GNU Hurd (was Re: BSD Unix)
- Message-ID: <1992Jul27.134530.10228@sinkhole.unf.edu>
- Date: 27 Jul 92 13:45:30 GMT
- References: <23992@castle.ed.ac.uk> <1992Jul21.112705.6276@cs.cornell.edu> <1992Jul21.131526.8920@ncsu.edu>
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- In article <1992Jul21.131526.8920@ncsu.edu> jlnance@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES LEWIS NANCE) writes:
- >
- >In article <1992Jul21.112705.6276@cs.cornell.edu>, murthy@cs.cornell.edu (Chet Murthy) writes:
- >|> free unix is perhaps 2 years away - in 2 years, linux will be stable.
- >|> In two years, the GNU Hurd will be stable. And AT&T can
- >
- >I have been wondering this for some time but have refrained from asking it
- >because it sounds like a flame, but it is not.
- >
- >GNU has been working on Hurd for as long as I have know about them. This has
- >been at least 3 years, and I have seen nothing from them. Linus has been
- >working on linux for about a year and a half, and has produced a very good
- >operating system. Does anyone know what is taking GNU so long? Prehaps they
- >have released beta versions that I am unaware of, or prehaps they do not
- >want to release anything before they get it finished? Anyone know?
- >
- >Thanks,
- >
- >Jim Nance
-
- I've been following the Hurd saga for about 4 years. Stallman kept
- saying something to the effect of "we're going to start work on
- the GNU OS (before the name Hurd was used) as soon as the Mach code gets
- freed up." So, really, for much of the time they've been doing more
- talking than coding. The date the Mach code became free of AT&T source
- has been more like a year or year and a half ago. It probably took awhile
- for them to get their tools ported, including a stable version of
- the GNU C library. I think they're at the point where Linux was
- in October-December '91 timeframe but on a much larger scale.
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- A tremendous amount of time has been put into the Hurd's filesystem.
- However, they're lagging in the BSD shell area because there's a guy
- at Carnegie Mellon that's produced a fairly stable one now and I'll
- bet he started after the M. Bushnell got cranking on his version.
- Read the June GNU newsletter. It just got posted to gnu.announce last
- week and mentions the CMU BSD shell. In brief, what GNU might do is
- use the CMU shell in the interim and replace it later with their own.
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- I'm surprised Jim you didn't mention how many years Emacs 19 has been
- in the works. ;-) Now *that* has been over two years in the making!
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- Steve Hite
- shite@sinkhole.unf.edu
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