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- From: bryan@uhura1.uucp (Bryan Curnutt)
- Subject: Re: Device names (was Re: ttys2 not responding)
- Message-ID: <1992Jul22.142823.28893@uhura1.uucp>
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- Organization: Stoner Associates, Inc./DREM Incorporated, Houston Texas
- References: <711742044.F00069@remote.halcyon.com>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:28:23 GMT
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- In article <711742044.F00069@remote.halcyon.com> Rob.Levin@f217.n3802.z1.fidonet.org (Rob Levin) writes:
- > TT> This is very confusing - drive _letters_ are a DOS anachronism and
- > TT> should have no place in Linux.
- >
- >You seem to be arguing that, because something is done a certain way in
- >DOS, it is anathema. I'll be interested in hearing other, more
- >substantive, arguments. ;-)
-
- The only plus I can think of is that you can make drives conform
- directly to SCSI id numbers, so SCSI id 0 is /dev/hd0, SCSI id 1
- is /dev/hd1, etc.
-
- >Could you be more specific on the BSD convention for hard disk naming?
- >And for partitions, if such a thing exists in the vanilla BSD
- >environment?
-
- I can't comment on "vanilla BSD," but I've seen this on a couple of
- BSD-derived systems:
-
- Hard disks are labelled using a digit to denote the hard disk, and
- a letter to denote the partition. If the device type you're using
- is named "hd" then the "first" disk (which may not exist, e.g. the
- "first" disk may be the disk with SCSI ID 0, while the only disk
- you have may be the "fourth" disk with SCSI ID 3) would look like
- this:
-
- /dev/hd0a /dev/hd0b /dev/hd0c /dev/hd0d /dev/hd0e /dev/hd0f
- /dev/hd0g /dev/hd0h
-
- (There will also be appropriate "raw" devices /dev/rhd0a, /dev/rhd0b,
- etc.)
-
- Partitions are always labelled a through h. Letters beyond h are
- illegal. For historical reasons, partition "c" is *always* the
- entire drive (equivalent to MCC-Interim Linux's /dev/hda). By
- tradition, the root partition is on partition "a", swap is on
- partition "b", and /usr is on partition "g". You can never have
- more than seven partitions on a disk, because only "a" through "h"
- are available, and "c" is used to represent the entire disk. (This
- is annoying -- there have been times when I've wanted to divide a
- hard disk into >7 partitions.)
-
- If Linux were to switch over to this ugly and bletcherous scheme
- (me? no, I'm not opinionated), a typical Linux installation might
- translate to something like this:
-
- /dev/hd0a /
- /dev/hd0b swap
- /dev/hd0c [entire hard disk, not usable for anything else]
- /dev/hd0d DOS partition???
- /dev/hd0e -not used-
- /dev/hd0f -not used-
- /dev/hd0g either /usr or -not used- if /usr is kept on /dev/hd0a
- /dev/hd0h /home
-
- Usually, the partitions are laid out sequentially on the hard disk,
- so /dev/hd0a occupies blocks 0 through N, /dev/hd0b occupies blocks
- N through N+M, etc. Since my DOS partition is going to be the first
- partition on my hard disk, my current layout of
-
- /dev/hda [entire hard disk, not usable for anything else]
- /dev/hda1 DOS partition
- /dev/hda2 /
- /dev/hda3 swap
- /dev/hda4 /home
-
- doesn't translate nicely to the traditional BSD scheme.
-
- Frankly, I much prefer the /dev/hda way of doing things. I wouldn't
- mind switching to /dev/hd0 for the entire disk and /dev/hd0a for the
- first partition, /dev/hd0b for the second, etc. but I'd like to see
- the BSD partitioning conventions left out of it.
- --
- Any opinions above are mine, and do not necessarily reflect the views of SAI.
-
- Bryan Curnutt | "I hope that UNIX is more like my diner
- bryan%uhura1@uunet.uu.net | than like McDonald's." -- Doug McIlroy
-