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- From: dong@milton.u.washington.edu (Dong-Lok Kim)
- Subject: Re: Which format for MPEG? (NTSC or CCIR601) (was Digital Video)
- Message-ID: <1992Jul23.072020.17087@u.washington.edu>
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- References: <1992Jul11.040327.5715@u.washington.edu> <4574@crl.LABS.TEK.COM> <1992Jul19.153254.22747@becker.GTS.ORG>
- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 07:20:20 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul19.153254.22747@becker.GTS.ORG> bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker) writes:
- >In article <4574@crl.LABS.TEK.COM> rjn@snowbird.LABS.TEK.COM (Jim Nusbaum) writes:
- >|Well CIF is supposed to be half the size of the full image (dropping every
- >|other sample in the line and dropping alternating lines). That would lead to
- >|320 x 240 starting from a 640 x 480 image. The 4:1:1 subsampling leads to
- >|the 1/4 size U and V. If you start with a different image size you would
- >|get different results, but a 704 x 480 image seems pretty non-standard.
- >
- >
- > 704 == 640 + 64
- >
- >
- > the extra 64 is the additional 10%
- > needed for overscan
- >
- >
- >--
- > ,u, Bruce Becker Toronto, Ontario
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- > _< /_ "Awaken the Geek Within" - Anthony Robot
-
-
- Well, the number 704 was actually derived from the follwing reasoning:
- CCIR601 format has 720 pixels per line
- --> Decimate it down to 360 pixels
- --> To divide the frame into macroblocks ( 16 x 16 pixels),
- there is 8 pixels as the remainder (360 /16 = 22 remainder 8)
- --> Now we just discard the 8 pixels and use the 352 pixels for
- the MPEG encoding. In fact we take the center 352 pixels
- discarding 4 pixels from both sides.
- --> The above procedure effectively takes the 704 center pixels
- from the original frame (Of course you may need the
- boundary 16 pixels to do the decimation).
-
- This is illustrated in the MPEG document.
-
- Dong-Lok Kim
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