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- From: lindgren@sics.se (Thomas Lindgren)
- Subject: Re: A simple and common example of the usefulness of lazy evaluation.
- In-Reply-To: delacour@waxwing.parc.xerox.com's message of 16 Jul 92 18:02:19 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Jul23.155434.11160@sics.se>
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- Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
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- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:54:34 GMT
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- In article <DELACOUR.92Jul16110219@waxwing.parc.xerox.com> delacour@waxwing.parc.xerox.com (Vincent Delacour) writes:
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- > 2- Another issues that has been raised is that of efficiency.
- > Despite the belief expressed by some that "Laziness is theoretically
- > more efficient even." (J. Farrel), I don't see how you can avoid
- > running "at the speed of the continental drift" as will from now on be
- > remembered as "Turner's confession", unless he denies vigorously
- > having said so.
-
- It should be noted that the Miranda implementation is notoriously slow
- and based on interpretive techniques. Indeed, even back in 1987, the
- Chalmers LML implementation ran 100 times faster than Miranda on a
- number of benchmarks (quicksort, 8 queens, that kind of thing)
- [Augustsson's thesis]. So perhaps Miranda shouldn't be taken as a
- representative example of such implementations. I would guess
- that lazy languages are perhaps 10 times slower than imperative
- ones on the average (feel free to correct me), with a smaller
- factor on some benchmarks. (E.g., procedures that use
- arithmetic are usually compiled well today, as I understand it.)
- I would expect this factor to decrease with time, as the issues of
- compilation are better understood (the basis of much of the work in
- the area was laid in the mid-80:s, which isn't all that far-off).
-
- As has been mentioned previously by Peyton Jones, there are good books
- out on the subject of outrunning the continental drift.
-
- > V. Delacour
-
- Thomas
-
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- Thomas Lindgren thomasl@meryl.csd.uu.se
- Computing Science Dept., Thomas.Lindgren@csd.uu.se
- Uppsala University lindgren@sics.se
-
- "I can call procedures in the vasty kernel."
- "Why so can I, or so can any program. But will you
- return when you do call them?"
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