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- From: pat@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Pat Thaler)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
- Subject: Re: 10Base-T question and Re: STARLAN
- Message-ID: <6700047@hprnd.rose.hp.com>
- Date: 29 Jul 92 23:09:52 GMT
- References: <92209.203733U41602@uicvm.uic.edu>
- Organization: HP Roseville Networks Division
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- In comp.dcom.lans.ethernet, U41602@uicvm.uic.edu (Rich Chong) writes:
-
- I wanted to make a 10Base-T null-modem connector to attach two
- Ethernet 10Base-T cards for testing. Question is this:
- Since the cable is only swapping Transmit and Receive pairs
- (1&2 with 3&6) in the line, will it work to connect 3 10Base-T
- cards with a Y-cable which is wired as a ring as diagramed below?
-
- (1,2)A(3,6) I somehow doubt that it will work
- / \ (perhaps received packets which arent
- / \ meant for an adapter wont be re-trans-
- / \ mitted out.) I realize that I would
- / \ lose the capability to keep the net up
- / \ if any one goes down, but just curious.
- (3,6)B(1,2)---(3,6)C(1,2)
- No, it won't work. A 10BASE-T device does not trasfer data from the receive
- line to the transmit pair. If it did, it would be perceived as a collision.
- Collision is detected when a node is receiving and transmitting at the
- same time.
-
- Re: STARLAN
- I'm not sure if this is something different between Starlan and 10Base-T
- but the computer store I went to only had Starlan UTP RJ-45 cables.
- So I bought and succesfully used it for my tests. While modifying the
- cable, I noticed that the pairs wern't wired to 10Base-T RJ-45 pairs.
- Not sure if it is 10Base-T specific anyways, but they wired the 4 pairs
- of wires to 1&2, 3&4, 5&6, 7&8 rather than expected 1&2, 3&6, 4&5, 7&8.
- This will lead to cross-talk and is probably something folks should
- watch out for when wiring or ordering the cables.
- 10BASE-T and 1BASE5 (and all the pre-10BASE-T 10 Mbps Ethernet devices that
- I know of all use) the same pairing. It is also the standard pairing for
- 8 pin connectors in building wiring. I would take the cable back. The name
- StarLAN has been used as a product name for some 1BASE5, some pre-10BASE-T
- twisted pair Ethernet and some 10BASE-T devices. All of these use the pairs
- 1&2 and 3&6.
-
- It may work under some circumstances, but when you plug it into a 10BASE-T
- device, you are in effect using an non-twisted pair for one of the signals.
- That can lead to increased emmissions and increased susceptability to
- external noise.
-
- Pat Thaler
-