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- From: pat@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Pat Thaler)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
- Subject: Re: 10basT Question
- Message-ID: <6700041@hprnd.rose.hp.com>
- Date: 23 Jul 92 17:31:25 GMT
- References: <Brps5C.8H9@alsvid.une.edu.au>
- Organization: HP Roseville Networks Division
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- In comp.dcom.lans.ethernet, karl@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Karl Watanabe) writes:
-
- In comp.dcom.lans.ethernet, jonathan@netcom.com (Jonathan Ridder) writes:
-
- > Though this is not usually done (and may not officially be supported?),
- Connecting two (and only two) 10BASE-T devices without a repeater is
- explicitly allowed in the IEEE 802.3i, the 10BASE-T standard.
- > you can connect them with a crossover cable. The crossover cable is
- > wired so that the receive pairs connect to the transmit pairs. If I
- > recall, this would be pin 1 to pin 3 and pin 2 to pin6.
-
- The 10baseT chip transceiver from AMD automatically has polarity reversal.
- Therefore it wouldn't be necessary to use a crossover cable.
-
- People often confuse polarity switching with the crossover function.
- Polarity refers to the way the two wires of a pair are attached. Crossover
- refers to swapping the transmit and receive pair.
-
- Ethernet uses a polarity sensitive encoding. If you attach the wire with
- the positive transmit signal, TD+, to the negative receiver input, RD-,
- and the TD- to the RD+, the receiver won't decode a usable signal. (This
- wasn't a problem for a coax based system where shield and center conductor
- were unlikely to get switched.) Because the Ethernet packets always
- end with a certain polarity transition, it is possible to sense in the
- transceiver that the polarity is reversed. The sensing can also use
- the link test pulse to correct polarity before traffic occurs on a quiet
- link. Therefore, some transceivers have a feature that corrects for
- a receive pair with incorrect polarity.
-
- When you connect two 10BASE-T transceivers together, you need to attach
- the transmitter output of one to the receiver input of the other. Between
- a DTE and a repeater, this is handled by having the default pinout of
- transceivers which are internal to repeaters use the same pins for the
- transmitter that the DTE uses for the receiver and vice versa. The
- wire then can be wired straight. Between two DTEs or two repeaters,
- you need to swap the pairs. (The old null modem problem.) I don't
- know of any device that provides the crossover function automatically.
-
- Pat Thaler
-