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- From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
- Subject: Re: Curious attitude ...
- Message-ID: <nvh60s8@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com>
- Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc. Mountain View, CA
- References: <22064@venera.isi.edu> <12430@janice> <12464@janice>
- Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 04:35:12 GMT
- Lines: 49
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- In article <12464@janice>, grayt@Software.Mitel.COM (Tom Gray) writes:
- >
- > This point was understood by the authour of the article in question.
- > Data traffic will be limited by the ability of the individual user
- > to type and read. How long will it take to read a file of
- > two million characters? How much voice traffic will be carried
- > in the same time at 32kb/s (or 16 or 8 but it is still the
- > same order of magnitude).
-
-
- Reasoning about data requirements based on humans reading text is not valid.
-
- I have a private link data link that runs over about 1500 miles of
- various phone co. wires. I move about 5MBytes/day on th quiet days,
- and 30MB on the bad days. I get between 5 and 12 MByte/hour, with the
- bottleneck being a pair of v.32bis/v.42/v.42bis modems on 40 miles at
- one end of the link. I continue to fight with latency problems
- suffered by my interactive stuff during the automatic file transfers.
-
- Then there is the other, 2000 mile link over which I push only about
- 2MB/day.
-
- Some of that stuff is netnews. Some is source code (e.g. UNIX kernel
- trees at 30MB each). Some binaries (e.g. 2MByte UNIX kernels).
-
- You are welcome to imagine that I personally supervise and peruse a
- minute fraction of that stuff, but it might be more accurate to assume
- otherwise.
- Please do not assume that I babble for the equivalent hours per day,
- on the telelphone or not.
-
-
- > The only service which is capable of matching voice traffic
- > in terms of bits/second is switched video on demand or
- > switched entertainment. Fibre to the home is (I agree)
- > dependant on this service. However fibre to the curb
- > or fibre in the network is not.
-
- Agreed. Video is an infinite bandwidth sync.
-
- Why is fiber to the curb different from fiber to the home?
- What's special about the last 100 meters of copper that limits the
- bandwidth? I assume you know of the "emerging standard" for FDDI at
- 100Mbit/sec over twisted pair. The ATM guys I know seem to think that
- the same twisted pair will go to 155Mbit/sec, although probably never
- much higher.
-
-
- Vernon Schryver, vjs@sgi.com
-