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- From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
- Subject: Re: Curious attitude ...
- Message-ID: <nv7tq54@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com>
- Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc. Mountain View, CA
- References: <22064@venera.isi.edu> <12430@janice> <ntlg9qc@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com> <12445@ntdd-1>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:19:15 GMT
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- In article <12445@ntdd-1>, grayt@Software.Mitel.COM (Tom Gray) writes:
- > ...
- > :> Now the LAN industry itself is rapidly accepting ATM. This
- > :> industry expects ATM to supplant existing protocols by
- > :> 1995....
-
- > I didn't make the prediction of the 1995 date. This prediction was made
- > by the representatives of the LAN industry at last years LCN
- > conference....
-
- What was this "LCN conference"?
-
- I'm a certified, fur-sure, senior droid working on high speed LAN's and
- slow speed WAN's for a major workstation company. That I don't
- recognize even the name of the conference should tell you something
- about how representative were those the "representatives of the LAN
- industry." I don't even know what the "LAN industry" might be.
-
- If the "LAN industry" is the people making the stuff connecting the
- computers, you should be skeptical. They have not been very right in
- the past, and tend to push whatever they are currently hoping to
- deliver in the quarter after next. (Like everyone else.)
-
- If it's the people making the computers that justify buying networks
- stuff, I wouldn't listen too hard. The computer vendors have fewer
- axes to grind, but they also bigger problems than networks, including
- Sun and DEC with their "the network is the computer" slogan. The
- product managers for network stuff at computer places are rarely the
- most influential or best informed.
-
- Among of the neat things about such conferences is that you can find
- some of the most wonderful quotes--to attribute to someone else. The
- really big conferences have speakers who are academic experts (i.e.
- people working and teaching at universities) and some industry big
- shots (e.g. managers who once or twice 10 or 20 years ago did something
- impressive). Both of those types are often pumping for funding inside
- or outside their organizations; I've seen that from close up. A
- distant from me but current example is the conflict between HIPPI
- (including serial HIPPI) and Fiber-channel. Advocates of each predict
- theirs will dominate the universe any month now, and both assert quite
- confidently that ATM has no chance of every being used for anything
- related to a LAN.
-
- The smaller conferences (i.e. all but the top 2 or 3 per year--are
- there as many as 3 "top" networking conferences?) tend to have more
- "product managers" and fewer academics or big shots. I won't name the
- product managers of the stuff I work on, because they're good guys, and
- because I wouldn't cross a hallway, not to mention an exhibit hall, to
- listen to their predictions of how networking will evolve. They are
- paid to be enthusiastic about what they're pushing, and only realistic
- enough to not look silly to prospects. In other words, they're
- expected to look silly to people on the inside.
-
-
- Vernon Schryver, vjs@sgi.com
-