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- From: pettengill@cvg.enet.dec.com ()
- Subject: Re: Cell SIze
- Message-ID: <1992Jul25.084726.11382@e2big.mko.dec.com>
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- Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
- References: <1992Jul18.162524.22420@sics.se> <miw.711957276@cc.uq.oz.au>
- Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 08:47:26 GMT
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- In article <miw.711957276@cc.uq.oz.au>, miw@cc.uq.oz.au (Mark I. Williams) writes:
- |>
- |>Yes, but...but.... This analysis considers data traffic only! Remember
- |>that ATM will be expected to provide other services as well. With a cell
- |>payload of 128 bytes echo cancellation will be even more difficult than
- |>with 64 bytes.
- |>
- |>Consider also a telephone-quality voice channel: the data rate is 16
- |>kbps. If you have a cell size of 128 bytes, the "lumpiness" is
- |>introducing a delay of 62.5 milliseconds before the bits have travelled
- |>an inch. Add a bit of buffering to smooth out delay jitter (which is
- |>also somewhat dependent on the cell size) and it quickly becomes
- |>apparent that 128 octets is "A Power too Far". Of course you could
- |>simply only send 32 octets per cell when you had a long-distance
- |>call....:-)
-
- A cell size of 64 or 128 bytes poses no problem for voice. Echo cancellation
- is required for virtually every long distance circuit in the US even for
- analog circuits (if any still exist) due to the delay in the wires and the
- repeaters. Even a country as small as France is only barely able to avoid
- echo cancellation, and they wanted 32 byte cells so they could continue to
- avoid having it within France. The delays in the intermediate switches can
- easily exceed the delay caused by packetizing the data into cells.
-
- The problem with 128 byte cells is that it is larger than needed to carry
- the fragments of voice payload with good efficiency. Since standards always
- represent the needs of the past, ATM is well suited to the past, not the
- future.
-
- mulp
-