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- From: goldstein@carafe.enet.dec.com (Fred R. Goldstein)
- Subject: Re: Packet Sizes
- Message-ID: <1992Jul22.192642.8995@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
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- Organization: Digital Equipment Corp., Littleton MA USA
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- Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:18:36 GMT
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- The 48-byte cell size, of course, stinks. If we were building an ATM
- network for data alone, Craig's 128-byte payload is about right. It's
- even big enough to carry a sort TUBA (briefly IPV7) packet :-) .
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- Given that PCM voice generates 8 octets/millisecond, cell size sets
- voice delay (for one-user full cells). For a while, ATM was 64 Octets,
- but France wanted 32. Why? Because if you added the speed-of-light
- delay for a call the length of France, and added 4 ms (32-octets) delay,
- you'd just barely get away without echo cancellers. The extra 4 ms.
- made echo cancellers seem necessary. Now a bigger country like the USA
- would need echo cancellers anyway, in which case a few extra ms. delay
- (even 16 ms.) would be harmless. So at 48 octets, EVERYBODY LOSES!
- That's the way CCITT works; consensus ain't cheap.
-
- I personally suspect that ATM nets (carrying data) will have LOTS
- of cell loss, which will require fairly small retransmission-units
- (R.U.) If you use AAL5 alone, then the packet is the R.U. If you
- use AAL5 or AAL3 with SSCOP, then SSCOP allows an intermediate
- fragment size R.U. If you use BLINKBLT, or another numbered-cell
- selective retransmit protocol, then the cell is the R.U.
-
- ATM nets are themselves physical layer; AAL is datalink, so internet
- protocols and higher will run across them. We can _optimize_ new
- protocols to run over ATM, but will also have to live with the old.
- I'm afraid that we're going to have a lot of overhead caused by
- traffic that just misses the one-cell cutoff. Perhaps we should move
- towards sligtly modified transport protocols too, just to reduce the
- frequency of 40-byte (longer with newer IP, most likely, or CLNP)
- packets that, with overhead, just overflow one cell.
- ---
- Fred R. Goldstein goldstein@carafe.tay2.dec.com
- k1io or goldstein@delni.enet.dec.com voice:+1 508 952 3274
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