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- From: harry@cs.tu-berlin.de (Harald Brinkmann)
- Subject: Re: Compression artifacts in NBC Olympic coverage
- In-Reply-To: fybush@unixland.natick.ma.us's message of Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:20:02 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Jul27.201440.7121@cs.tu-berlin.de>
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- Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
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- Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:14:40 GMT
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- Hi There!
-
- Well, I haven't seen those artifacts that you lot in the US rave
- about. Anyway here some some thoughts of mine about that:
-
- They could be standard conversion atrifacts, but I'm surprised that
- no-one has ever noticed them elsewhere. I have heard that they use at
- least for slow motion (I'm not sure about standard conversion) a new
- system with motion estimation, which is intended to make movements
- more smooth. Fast movements on existing standard converters looks
- really messy. (For those of you who can pick up PAL signals look for
- Spacenet S2 at 69 deg 3920 MHz Vertical which is supposed to be
- ECO/Galavision for Europe already PAL transcoded. Look for for moving
- letters like scrolling subtitles or credits.)
-
- American TV programmers often insist on using their own cameras in
- international events. They may relay the international feed and mix it
- with their own output. Often their own cameras are in NTSC, so there
- would be no stanard conversion then. Indoors with 50 Hz lighting this
- may be impractical though, but I have seen that during the Winter
- Olympics for Outside broadcasts.
-
- There is full HDTV coverage with is aired in Europe on Olympus,
- TV-SAT, TDF, Telecom 2A and Eutelsat II F3. Compatible reception in
- D2MAC yields some artifacts (I wrote about them during HDTV coverage
- of the French Open Tennis Championchip). However in the meantime the
- coders have been modified to produce fewer artifacts and the
- difference is clearly visible. The artifacts are still there, but far
- less annoying. I doubt that any HDTV feeds will be used for "normal"
- TV. This at least didn't happen for sure during the opening ceremony
- which I watched in both D2MAC (HDTV) and the normal international
- feed. Anyway if they did use the feeds *I* would use a proper
- transcoder which avoids these artifacts. I went to the SFB today where
- an HDTV demo, with a rpoper decoder ran and saw no artifacts on there
- either.
-
- Hope this is of some help
-
- Harald
-
-