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- From: steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steven C. Potter)
- Newsgroups: can.general,rec.crafts.brewing
- Subject: Beer/Ale in Canada (Was Re: Labatt "Draft";Molson "Dry" etc)
- Message-ID: <1992Jul24.104344.2368@spxtech.qc.ca>
- Date: 24 Jul 92 14:43:44 GMT
- References: <berthiau.711901456@iros1>
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- Organization: Securiplex Technologies Inc., Montreal, Canada
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- From article <berthiau.711901456@iros1>, by berthiau@IRO.UMontreal.CA
- Andre Berthiaume writes:-
-
- > steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steven C. Potter) writes:
- >>
- >> A brewery was once taken to court over the use of the phrase
- >> "Real Ale" on its labelling. The brewery lost.
- >
- >> "Real Ale" is defined in the Oxford English dictionary as an
- >> Ale made from nothing but Barley, Hops, Yeast and water, naturally
- >> conditioned in the container from which it is served.
- >
- >> That is indeed "Real Ale" and nothing else - is!
- >
- > [stuff deleted]
- >
- > Not totally true! Ever tried Samuel Adams??? It's claim is that it's
- > brewed in small quantities and in the traditional way and has exceeded
- > the standards of German beers. It's a good amber ale full of flavor.
- > One must try it's Oktoberfest Brew which is only available during that
- > time of year. There is a WIDE variety of beers and ales to taste. One
- > must not limit themselves to what is available locally. I can hardly
- > wait for the beer market to open up here in Canada (albeit it wont be
- > til 1993 [according to latest projection]).
-
- I haven't tried Samuel Adams.
-
- I have some mixed feelings about opening up the market.
-
- On the one hand I would like to see the free movement of beers around
- the country.
-
- On the other hand, I don't want to see mega-breweries dumping crap
- "close to water" "Beer" at close to cost to keep local decent quality
- beers in a position of considerably higher cost.
-
- I think the mega breweries will do what they can for their big market
- shares. This includes marketing junk that is ever closer to water and
- less likely to offend fewer and fewer pallates.
-
- Discerning Ale and Beer lovers will be prepared to pay more for a
- decent product. This will be limited by taxation, of course!
-
- >
- > Anyways, I've been living here in Quebec since February and am mildly
- > flabbergasted at the choice of beers available. I had been in Pittsburgh
- > just prior to arriving here and (being that liquor stores are state run
- > in Pennsylvania) the beer places stocked an amazing variety of beers
- > from all over the world (including Canada) like Jamaica, Japan, Belgium
- > and England (just to name a few). COme on now! Give these beer-drinkers/
- > lovers a choice!
- >
- > I will give credit to those establishments who try to carry everything that
- > IS available to them.
-
- Liquor stores are "state run" in Quebec too. Though store managers are now
- getting a lot more autonomy in the way they run things.
-
- The sad thing is - the staff receive very little, if any, training to
- enable them to ensure that the products reach the consumer in anything
- but sub-standard, in many cases spoiled, condition.
-
- I have seen time and time again Belgian Trappist Ales, for example, left
- on normal room temperature shelving - sometimes exposed to sunlight for
- several hours a day.
-
- Once I got so upset I demanded to see the manager.
- I asked, "Do you sell many of these?"
- "Some" he replied, eyeing me suspiciously.
- "Do people ever bring them back?" I querried.
- Now, smiling (I suppose he thought I was trying to be funny), he said
- "Well as a matter of fact they do."
- "Do you have any idea why? I said, frowning.
- Now he looked a little annoyed and perhaps a trifle embarrassed.
- "No", he said.
-
- "Come here, ... look at this". I showed him a sample bottle off his shelf -
- one I carefully scanned for with a clearly visible yeast content.
-
- "Do you know what that is?", I asked, pointing to the yeast.
-
- "Oh, it looks like its gone off, eh?". He was smiling again.
-
- At this point I was beginning to realise that I was wasting my time.
-
- I explained the basic difference between pasteurised and naturally
- conditioned beers. I explained the reason for proper storage and
- temperature control. I suggested that he would waste less, have fewer
- returns and sell more of these "special" beers if he looked after
- them properly.
-
- He said: "Well, I never had any trouble before".
-
-
- I am afraid that this is common throughout the province.
-
- It is another example of the "marketing for profit" philosophy in North
- America.
-
- It is another reason for considering a return to Europe too! :-)
-
- >
- > BTW, if you're not happy with the beer that is available out there, then make
- > your own! 8^) Unless that just isn't legal in parts or all of Canada? I know
- > for a fact that it's quite legal to make your own brew in some states.
- >
-
- Until a few years ago, one was required to obtain a license to brew beer
- at home in Canada. This licensing process required registering one's
- brewing equipment on a possible penalty of confiscation of property and
- improsonment for failure to comply.
-
- No such license was required for making wine!
-
- What a strange country is Canada indeed :-)
-
-
- There are a few small breweries operating at local levels in Quebec now.
-
- The Quebec government is "experimenting" with the brewery licensing.
-
-
- A major obstacle for setting up a brewery in Canada was a requirement to
- be a member of the Brewers Association of Canada. Principal members were,
- of course, Labatt and Molson and O'Keefe. Membership fees were/are
- astronomical.
-
- That requirement has been legislated away for small scale operations -
- and a damn good thing too!
-
- Bloody protectionists!
-
-
-
- Brewing your own is aliitle time consuming if you are active outside of
- office ours (Sports, politics, community service, church work etc.).
-
- It is, however, economical and well worth the effort.
-
- It is a fascinating hobby and extremely rewarding!
-
- There is nothing like watching a friend enjoy a pint of Ale drawn from
- your own "keg". (And remembering that there's no "alcohol tax" on it!).
-
-
- The federal government has tried, more than once, to introduce a tax on
- grain for brewing purposes. Watch out for that one, folks!
-
-
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- ||| Steve Potter: steven%spxtech@CAM.ORG |||
- ||| Expertise/Experience: Computer Systems Engineering / Real Ale / |||
- ||| Politics in Education in Quebec |||
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