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- From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
- Subject: Re: Help for California Libraries! Dire Need!
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- Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:41:04 GMT
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- marotenb@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Mark Rotenberg) writes:
- >asylvain@fritz.filenet.com (The Chipmunk) writes:
- >> : [Quote on school/property taxes deleted]
- >> : I'm willing to pay for them, as long as everybody else is too.
- >>
- >> I'm curious about this statement. If you're willing to pay for them,
- >> why do you care whether anyone else does?
-
- >What a silly response! If everybody is paying for something then the cost
- >per capita decreases. There's no contradiction in supporting a policy so
- >long as it's evenly enforced! Sheesh...
-
- Got it. You want others to pay for something you want. We already
- knew that, but it's nice to get confirmation.
-
-
- >> I've heard this before, so it seems to me there must be LOTS of people
- >> who are willing to pay for them. But; why only if _everybody_ does?
- >> Why such a strange caveat?
- >>
- >> Why not get together with a group of interested parties and simply pool
- >> your money together?
-
- >Yeah, we can form a government!
-
- That's not what he said - interested parties. That's not the same as,
- "Hey, why don't we mug others to get what we want, so we don't have to
- pay for it ourselves?"
-
-
- >> Since there are so many people willing to pay,
- >> this should be a snap. Of course, since we're on the subject of intro-
- >> ducing "user-fees," this would be over and above what parents pay in
- >> tuition, so the schools ought to get gobs of money this way.
-
- >Hmmm... Taxes??? Are you trying to say that there are segments of the
- >population who don't benefit from education? Or segments of the economy?
-
- There certainly are. And once you take it to our current illiterate
- producing money pit system, it's even worse. Compared to what could
- appear if it disappeared it may be a positive detriment.
-
-
- >> So why do you feel it necessary to force money from dis-interested parties?
-
- >Who's "dis-interested" in education? We can all sit around and suck our
- >thumbs until we're senile AND immature! Or we can improve the business
- >climate (what a concept!) by offering private education for those who can
- >afford it, and basic education to those who need to. Remember that even
- >a Libertarian society depends on an educated populace.
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- You've got it. Now, when everyone believes that education is so
- overwhelmingly important, and that educated people are needed for the
- future, what exactly leads you to the conclusion that if the rotten
- government system were removed that everybody would just collapse in
- confusion, and just give up on education? Now, you might not be able
- to employ the same number of administrative leeches (teachers make up
- only 44% of California school employees, compared to 86% for private
- CA schools), but who's going to lose sleep over that?
- --
- Refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
-