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- Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 02:19:26 BST
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- From: Mike Ellwood <MWE@IBM-B.RUTHERFORD.AC.UK>
- Subject: Re: UNIT and VOLUME specification
- In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 30 Jul 92 15:58:00 PDT from <LDW@EARN.USCMVSA>
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- >> know this is real spaghetti.
- >
- >Ah hah. So the real reason we don't get more user-friendly systems
- >from IBM is that it's too hard to change the existing ancient cruddy
- >code. Well, I guess over the next 10 years this problem will solve
- >itself, as everybody moves to *ix systems.
- >
- Ha ha; as an old MVT/MVS fogey, I've been reading this debate with
- growing fascination. And from what I've heard there are even more
- fascinating debates to be had in the JES area (NQS/MVS for JES3
- anyone? :-) )
- As a new *ix user, I can think of few things I could do in MVS, or
- even VM, that I can't do as easily in *ix, or easier. (And a lot
- of the elegance of VM is only of interest in the context of System/360
- (and its descendants) architecture. If one can break out of that trap,
- it ceases to have much interest, except historical.
- HOWEVER!! - the one thing *ix doesn't have, and could surely use, is
- decent tape (and I think I mean tape label) handling, a la MVT/MVS.
-
- Does anyone know if AIX will ever provide this? (And if this means
- deviating from "standard UNIX", well - tough!
-
- >I don't have sympathy for those customers. If the manual says that
- >something has to be done a certain way, and you do it in violation of
- >the published doc, and it eventually stops working, you have no right
- >to complain to the vendor.
- Not sure if I agree with that, but I suspect what they had been taking
- advantage of were both the loopholes in the code, and the ambiguities
- or plain lack of information in the docs, esp. the old ones.
-
- Mike
-