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- From: vkunch@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Virginia P Kunch)
- Newsgroups: alt.wolves
- Subject: Re: compensation
- Message-ID: <1992Jul21.162831.29196@uwm.edu>
- Date: 21 Jul 92 16:28:31 GMT
- References: <Jul.20.15.26.51.1992.26939@ocean.rutgers.edu>
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- In article <Jul.20.15.26.51.1992.26939@ocean.rutgers.edu> johnb@ocean.rutgers.edu (Dog Jones) writes:
- >It seems to me that the wolf 'control' programs are disturbingly illogical.
- >Why does the 'eye for an eye' ideology prevail? Will killing a wolf
- >for allegedly killing livestock solve everybody's problems? What's the deal
- >with compensation for livestock losses? Also, has any rancher attempted
- >to protect their livestock by using guard dogs?
- >
- >
- > JohnnyB
- > johnb@ocean.rutgers.edu
-
- Hi! This is in reply to questions about problems with reintroduction
- posted recently on the network (sheesh! what grammar!)
-
- As far as I know (from a fairly recent PBS special whose name escapes me), one of
- the major drawbacks of the compensation process is that ranchers have to PROVE
- that their animal was killed by a/several wolf/wolves. This, of course, entails
- finding the carcass if there's even anything left and proving to the feds, once
- they get out there, that it wasn't wild dogs, yotes, etc. As we are all aware,
- the government sometimes kills us with kindness in the form of red tape.
- Similarly, some of these people can't wait months for reimbursement. (Please note,
- just to be clear, that I am not defending their position, merely restating it).
-
- Also, as far as I know, an animal that has been caught raiding livestock is
- relocated the first time, then put down if caught a second time. Still, this
- is not enough.
-
- Regarding guard dogs, few ranchers use them and I don't really know why.
- Breeds such as maremmas and Anatolian Shepherd's have proven their weight
- in gold in such matters, especially if they are only faced with a lone
- wolf, as might be more likely to try the easy prey of cattle, because
- perhaps it's been run out of the pack. In any case, they come highly
- recommended from people who have used them.
-
- There was a great article about the ninemile wolves in October 1991 Outside
- magazine. A book about the group has subsequently been written, but I'm
- not sure it's been released yet.
-
- One other thing not related to this topic in particular: Has anyone thought
- of starting a newsgroup for hybrid owners, maybe a setting to discuss
- behavior problems, pros and cons, etc.? Jus' askin'....
-
- -g. kunch
- vkunch@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
-