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- From: nancyr@aviatrix.EBay.Sun.COM (Nancy Ramirez)
- Newsgroups: alt.support
- Subject: Is NLP Dangerous?
- Date: 31 Jul 1992 20:08:00 GMT
- Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Mt. View, Ca.
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- Just caught a glimpse of the recent thread on NLP.
- I had a negative experience, I'd like to share.
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- I'd read an extensive article in the Sunday paper
- about a con-artist who took women for all they had.
- He'd learned NLP and was expert at manipulating
- people.
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- Since I didn't want to fall victim to a manipulator
- like that, I enrolled in an adult education course
- teaching NLP.
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- The instructor had horrid ego problems. He'd been
- very overweight all his life, had a stomach operation,
- and no one would know he once had a huge body.
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- The scars from his younger years (cruel peers, etc.)
- just stuck with this guy, and he obviously wanted a
- way to get even with the 'world'. He was also into
- hypnosis and very impressed by great hypnotists.
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- The class had about 45 people in the beginning. At
- the end it was 6-7. I stayed only because I wanted
- to learn everything this guy did.
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- It`s hard to describe. But, the big thing was eye
- contact. Once he had that, you were his victim.
- Again and again, he'd victimize people in the
- audience, by locking them in with that eye contact
- and then basically mocking them by copying their
- body posture. It was humiliating.
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- He never got me once, not even when he phoned me
- at home (yes it can work on the phone, too). In
- class I never allowed eye contact with him. Not
- until the last class, that is.
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- I got there late, and had to sit facing him. While
- speaking, he suddenly sat down directly across from
- me which caused me to look at him. He immediately
- went into a body posture exactly matching mine.
- And he held it, while my brain was freaking out
- trying to figure out what was going on.
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- If I'd been able to break the eye contact, it would
- not have worked. But, it happened so fast that he
- had me confused. As my face turned a painful red
- in horrible embarrassment, he stood up, smiled,
- and nodded at me saying, "Yes." It was akin to
- rape. I'd been violated.
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- Maybe you can imagine my rage when I left that
- class, maybe not. But, I know enough now to
- recognize it when I see it.
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- This was NLP being used in a damaging context.
- I might also add, that Richard Bandler, the father
- of this stuff, ended up arrested in Santa Cruz
- some years back after the murder of a prostitute
- in his apartment. Drugs were involved.
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- I do believe NLP can be used in positive ways,
- like neutral mediators trying to settle cases
- out of court. But, it doesn't hurt to be familiar
- with both sides of the coin.
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- Nancy
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