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- Subject: Re: Revisionist Convicted AGAIN!
- Message-ID: <1992Jul28.233504.20749@oneb.almanac.bc.ca>
- From: kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
- Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 23:35:04 GMT
- References: <15772@pitt.UUCP> <1992Jul22.185745.27280@oneb.almanac.bc.ca> <BZS.92Jul25200551@ussr.std.com>
- Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, CANADA
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- In article <BZS.92Jul25200551@ussr.std.com> bzs@ussr.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
-
- >From: kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
-
- >>Canadians, you may be surprised to learn, support this law. With regard to
- >>your specific comment, I confess confusion. If you want to grant government
- >>the power to take away someone's livelihood, how does that differ from
- >>convicting them of a crime?
-
- >There are also minimal acceptable standards, for example a math
- >teacher who never touched upon the subject of mathematics but instead
- >rambled on about his/her favorite television series could be summarily
- >fired for merely refusing to perform the job s/he was hired to
- >perform. I believe this is closer to the reason Keegstra was fired.
-
- Keegstra was fired because his behavior, teaching racial hatred, is against
- the law in Canada. That is the issue - that the law here is different than
- it is south of the border. I contended that Canadians wanted this law, and
- supported this law, because Americans just can't seem to grasp that.
-
- Whether we live in some deeply conspiratorial national environement I leave
- to other discussions - most of us _love it_ here, law and all, and have no
- illusions about this issue. We do not wear blinders - we _gave_ our
- government this authority, and they act upon it on our behalf.
-
- >To my knowledge, the govt has not "taken away his livelihood" (or I
- >would hope not), he was fired for not performing his job (e.g. not
- >conforming reasonably to curriculum) in this specific circumstance.
- >If another school (say, a private school) were to pick him up to teach
- >I doubt the govt would be able to interfere (if they can then Canada
- >has more problems than I suspected.)
-
- The government would not interfere, but the school board would be hard
- pressed to justify hiring a hate-crime felon - which is precisely my point.
-
- >He should be free to express his opinions, at his own expense.
-
- He is free to do so up to the point where his opinion shifts to the point
- where he incites to racial hatred - i.e. "Kill the niggers!" is not
- acceptable in public forums.
-
- >This, in my opinion (and that of the historical and common
- >interpretation of the US Constitution) is wrong. I realize Canada's
- >laws are different, but I also find them (on this topic)
- >reprehensible, I merely cite the USC to point out that my opinion is
- >not unique.
-
- You are free to disagree - I am American by birth, and have a great deal of
- respect for the process. But I _prefer_ living _here_, and that law which
- disturbs so many Yanks is one of the reasons. I respect the American belief
- which asserts that it's perfectly all right to advocate killing Jews,
- Niggers, WASPS or anything else on your street corners. I also understand
- that the same people who make this assertion censor reading material at
- their borders, and do so with regularity. (Farley Mowat comes to mind
- immediately as an example of America's fascist paranoia, as does the
- persecution of the Communists during the Forties, Fifties, and Sixties.)
-
- >But he would not be jailed or even threatened with criminal charges
- >for merely expressing his opinion.
-
- Simply an example of a <more or less> benevolent Yankee hypocrasy - they
- had no qualms keeping Mowat from speaking in the United States, and a sorry
- history of crucifying leftists for the fun of it.... I remember well the
- first election I was aware of in Canada (I came here in 1967) - the first
- sign was the Communist candidate's knock on the door - THIS was closer to
- the democracy I had grown up with - Canada didn't share Hoover and
- MacCarthy's paranoia :-)
-
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