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- From: rivk@quads.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis)
- Subject: Re: Revisionist Convicted AGAIN!
- Message-ID: <1992Jul28.071311.14435@midway.uchicago.edu>
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- Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
- References: <1992Jul19.225535.11915@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> <15772@pitt.UUCP> <1992Jul22.185745.27280@oneb.almanac.bc.ca>
- Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 07:13:11 GMT
- Lines: 45
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- In article <1992Jul22.185745.27280@oneb.almanac.bc.ca> kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay) writes:
- >In article <15772@pitt.UUCP> geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:
- >
- >>In article <1992Jul19.225535.11915@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> friedenb@egr.msu.edu ( Gedaliah Friedenberg ) writes:
- >
- >>>town of Eckville, Alberta, has been convicted for the second time of
- >>>wilfully promoting hatred against Jews.
- >>> Jusitce Arthur Lutz of the Court of Queen's Bench in nearby
- >>>Red Deer fined James Keegstra $3,000 (Canadian) a few hours after a
- >>>jury of eight women and four men found him guilty.
- >>> The verdict was the culmination of a four-month retrial in
- >>>which 17 former students of Keegstra's testified that from 1978 to
- >>>1982, he taught them that an evil worldwide Jewish conspiracy bent on
- >>>destroying Christianity existed and that the Holocaust was a hoax.
- >
- >>While I think that a person teaching such hateful things should
- >>be dismissed from their teaching position, I don't think the
- >>government should jail people for "willfully promoting hatred".
- >
- >Canadians, you may be surprised to learn, support this law. With regard to
- >your specific comment, I confess confusion. If you want to grant government
- >the power to take away someone's livelihood, how does that differ from
- >convicting them of a crime?
-
- First of all, unless Keegstra worked for the government, I don't
- think Mr. Banks was talking about the government taking away his
- livelihood -- he was talking about the man's employer deciding that
- they did not care to have such a person working for them, which is
- their privilege.
-
- Second of all, there are the small matters of jail time, a lifetime
- criminal record, and a variety of other little details that differentiate
- a legal conviction from simple dismissal from one's job. (Among others,
- the ability to find another job.) Third of all, while I don't have
- any problems with this being the case where such a law is applied if
- it exists at all, a government that permits itself to regulate the
- speech of its citizens by force of law can do so as easily with re-
- gard to lifetime jail sentences or death for criticizing the head of
- state as it can on something like this. I prefer not to let them start,
- even though it sounds like Mr. Keegstra was asking for it if anybody
- was.
-
- -Nora
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