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- From: carolo@cse.ucsc.edu (Carol Osterbrock)
- Newsgroups: alt.peeves
- Subject: Re: Drug testing and welfare
- Message-ID: <14omq0INNltd@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
- Date: 24 Jul 92 10:42:08 GMT
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- In article <92205.193651JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu> Jenni Sheehey <JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
- >Apparently in this state there is a proposed bill that would cause
- >people receiving cash assistance (welfare) from the government to have
- >to submit to random drug testing.
-
- [...J is all for this...]
-
- >The reason I say this is that if these people are buying drugs, they're
- >doing it with *my* money.
-
- Ummm, whose money is the state going to use to do this drug testing?
-
- >It absolutely astounds me that it should be legal to have employers for
- >whom one is working be allowed to test you, but that employers for whom
- >you are doing nothing should not be allowed to do so.
-
- Well, it astounds me that it should be legal to have employers for
- whom one is working be allowed to test you, too. Not so long ago,
- it was legal to have them make you sign a statement that you'd never
- belonged to a political party that they didn't like, but those wackos
- from the ACLU got all uptight about that, so they had to stop.
-
- >Besides, it's not like we're talking about a full body cavity search,
- >here, anyway.
-
- Yeah, I guess drawing blood is a lot less intrusive than sticking
- a finger up your ass.
-
- >The opponents of the bill say that the bill "supports the
- >false image of welfare recipients as undeserving drug addicts." Well, it
- >would seem to me that if they started testing people, and they all
- >tested negative, that would do more than anything else I can think of
- >off hand to counter that negative stereotype. If there *are* a bunch of
- >people that test positive, then it isn't a false image. Either way, the
- >facts (as statistics, with no names attached, of course) would be
- >available to John Q. Public, and he could form his opinion based on
- >that.
-
- I think John Q. Public already has his opinion, and this sounds like
- the state trying to jump on the currently popular bandwagon. If it's
- anything like the drug testing programs that private employers have
- come up with, they'll spend a few million dollars to kick out a couple
- of people, and any actual drug addicts will be able to slick their
- way through.
-
- [...]
-
- >I'm not even receiving welfare, but if they want
- >to test me first, they're welcome to. I've never been quite sure what
- >the big deal was, anyway, assuming one has nothing to hide.
-
- Well, heck, kiddo, I'm sure they'll hit college students next. Lord
- knows it was *your* money that built all those buildings. You can
- walk proudly into the testing center with your sleeve rolled up,
- knowing that you are *clean*. You can gossip with your friends about
- the girl down the hall that got kicked out last week because she got
- stoned with her boyfriend a week before they hauled her in. You can
- sweat a little because you had a couple of beers after the killer
- midterm. You can proudly pay your taxes to build the new prisons that
- have become necessary to keep all those heinous criminals from
- leaching off society. Maybe you can even have the ultimate honor of
- turning in one of your friends!
-
- Peeve: people whose high school history class ended in 1945.
-
- -carol "just say no" o
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