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- From: hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz)
- Subject: Re: knowing HaShem
- Message-ID: <1992Jul23.195120.17674@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
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- References: <1992Jul22.154117.22108@watson.ibm.com> <1992Jul23.150454.9446@col.hp.com>
- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:51:20 GMT
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- In article <1992Jul23.150454.9446@col.hp.com> danl@col.hp.com (Daniel Lockhart) writes:
- >strom@watson.ibm.com (Rob Strom) writes:
- >> In article <l6p1pdINN5er@pollux.usc.edu>, kjh@pollux.usc.edu (Kenneth J. Hendrickson) writes:
- >> |> In article <9207212100.AA00728@aplpy.jhuapl.edu> levene@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Robert A. Levene) writes:
- >> |> >Such an effort would be considerably more
- >> |> >productive in fostering positive relations with Jews than conversion
- >> |> >attempts.
- >> |>
- >> |> Rob,
- >> |> We (believers in Yeshua) are not interested in having "positive
- >> |> relations" with you, as an end in itself. What we are interested in is
- >> |> having you come to know HaShem, and be saved from your sins. Everything
- >> |> else is secondary, and pales in importance to your eternal destiny. But,
- >> |> if having "positive relations" will be a means to further this important
- >> |> end, then we're all for it.
- >> |>
- >> I think that the above very frankly states what Messianic "Judaism" and all
- >> similar evangelical movements are about. You have only one goal ---
- >> to convert us to Christianity. Anything else you do is only
- >> a means to that end.
- >>
- >> That's why it's important for me to know who you all are
- >> so that my children are safe from you until they reach
- >> an age when they understand who you are and what you
- >> are trying to do. It's why my 7-year-old child is not allowed
- >> to take a walk alone with her aunt and uncle.
- >> --
- >Just an outsider's point of view Rob, I see it as someone trying to let you
- >know that the bridge is out up ahead. If you want to drive off the end, that's
- >your decision.
- >
- >Daniel
- >
-
-
- No, the analogy is backwards. Rob is trying to find out who has
- attempted to sabotage the brakes, removed the Bridge out sign, and
- tried to post a detour sign pointing to the cliff. He is in the
- position of someone trying to use a good up to date map to avoid
- the dangerous road.
-
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- | Hillel Markowitz | Said the fox to the fish, join me ashore |
- | H_Markowitz@att.com | So too is it with the Jews and the TORAH |
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