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- From: asamonte@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...)
- Subject: Re: Useless Bots
- Message-ID: <1992Jul27.100632.2332@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
- Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 10:06:32 GMT
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- StarWatcher@uiuc.edu was telling me...
- >asamonte@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...) writes:
- >:
- >: Personally I think channel opping bots are useless. What is the point?
- >: Having a robot sit on a channel and only op certain people? Now
- >: that is what I call elitst. I've had so many problems$with channel opping
- >: bots in the past. This is one of the reasons I don't like them.
- >
- >I'm sorry that you have had problems with the channel caretakers in
- >the past, but not all of them are that bad. Take channel #bondage,
- >for example, which seems to draw more than it's fair share of drooling
- >net.geeks wanting to get a glimpse at the perverts. The channel bot
- >is Monitor, who maintains a fairly long list of regular or semi-regular
- >channel denizens, and acts as the default inviter/opper. Monitor also
- >does channel mode -i when the channel empties out, so that other
- >folks can use the channel, de-ops people who get op by joining
- >through a split (there have been many problems with this on that
- >channel), and makes a channel FAQ availible to anyone who wants one.
-
- I'm quite familiar with the Monitor code, you don't have to lecture me on it.
- Actually I think #bondange is one of the most well 'moderated' channels. But
- do we really NEED this moderation on most channels? I don't think so.
- #hottub...a place of bots galore is a public channel where everyone is welcome
- to come and talk, but a bot on this channel just ops a selected few just so
- they can be op, not because of the nature of the channel. I figure most of
- the people who are on #bondage like the security of the channel. Other places
- I think not. Still #bondage can be managed just fine w/o Monitor.
-
- >Is the idea of only opping certain people elitist? Perhaps, depending
- >on who the bot recognizes. I would have objections to a bot whose sole
-
- Haha, I love this. Depending on who the bot ops varys it's elitist state?
- Sounds like 'If It doesn't op me, it's elitist.'
-
-
- >purpose in life is to /invite and op one particular person to a (or
- >a few) channel(s). I don't see any problems with bots with invite/op
- >lists of 50-60 people for one "regular" channel, especially if the bot
- >is being updated fairly frequently, and if the human channel ops are
- >willing to let new people on channel fairly regularly. The bots in between...
- >*shrug* I haven't had to deal with them.
-
- Your main argument for the robot is for invite purposes? Then why doesn't
- it jsut do that instead of oping people? What's the point there?
-
- >Of course, there is the obvious solution for people who have problems
- >with the attitudes of the op-bot or of the powers-that-be for a given
- >channel: Tough! If you don't like it, go form your own channel.
- >Yes, it sounds like a harsh answer, but it should be an obvious one.
-
- There is also another obvious solution who have problems with
- op bots (just a valid as yours) get rid of them all.
-
-
- -Alex
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