home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Xref: sparky alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk:2377 alt.censorship:6222 alt.sex:24959 tor.general:993
- Path: sparky!uunet!scorn!gorn!deeptht.armory.com!rstevew
- From: rstevew@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz)
- Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,alt.censorship,alt.sex,tor.general
- Subject: Re: Surprise. You've made the evening news again.
- Message-ID: <1992Jul18.141212.27368@deeptht.armory.com>
- Date: 18 Jul 92 14:12:12 GMT
- References: <1992Jul12.152040.9493@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> <1992Jul13.073249.28035@deeptht.armory.com> <1992Jul14.231918.20382@bkj386.uucp>
- Organization: The Armory
- Lines: 75
-
- In article <1992Jul14.231918.20382@bkj386.uucp> brian@.UUCP (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) writes:
- >In article <1992Jul13.073249.28035@deeptht.armory.com> rstevew@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) writes:
- >
- >>Well, I think we did a damned good job of contributing to Panama's
- >>"debate" about freedom, and I think Manuel Noriega can now appreciate
- >>that. He learned a new song, "Welcome to the Jungle", and he now gets
- >>his choice of 40 years in prison or military stockade.
- >
- >True. I think you should round up all those guys in the world that
- >you disagree with and stick them in concentration....oops...prisons
- >or military stockades (half a :)).
- -------------------------
- No, you idiot, people who kill other people and import cocaine, and
- who rule fascistically without mandate. I have little interest in
- making the world that much less interesting by jailing those I
- disagree with.
-
- >>In fact, I, like amnesty international and other such groups adhere to
- >>a rather strict interpretation of human rights. Any one who gets in
- >>the way of human rights, most especially the right to say ANYTHING
- >>should be taken out and shot. We finally have that here now.
- >
- >As a Canadian I can relate to this. You have about ten times the
- >population and 800 times the number of firearm related deaths a
- >year. It is certainly good to see such a clear summary of the
- >philosophical and social stucture of the US.
- ----------------------------
- And I'm glad that you realize it fully. You seem to capture the gist
- of the US in a single bound, minus the problem of minority racial
- situations that you don't have and can't fathom. Without the drug
- trade and the racial prejudice in a number of crucial places here,
- though they are few, we likely kill fewer people than you do, per
- capita.
-
- >> I cannot
- >>find a thing I can say which will get me arrested, unless I threaten
- >>someone's life or follow them around haranguing them. This is in
- >>contrast to you ridiculous excuse for a nation to the north.
- >
- >You might try libel, treason, disturbing the peace and all those
- >other little things that can land you in the slammer. I think that
- >the only thing Canada has that the US doesn't is malicious libel
- >against an identifiable group. I gather that is what the guns are
- >for down there.
- --------------------------------
- Libel is civil not criminal. Guns are irrelevant to it. I had already
- described disturbing the peace or treason/threatning the life of a
- publically elected official. You have said nothing here.
-
- >>You can
- >>still virtually be recommended for jail time by your local vicar, like
- >>we could in the fifties!
- >
- >Like the vicar, I could recommend you for jail time too. Like the vicar,
- >it would mean nothing in Canada -- before or after the fifties.
- ---------------------------------
- I have a Canadian friend who would strongly disagree with you about
- that. He wound up without a job and without a rental and without
- defenders in a goodly sized place where he had simply behaved a bit
- differently than some locals without breaking any law except the
- minister's sense of "propriety".
-
- >>It strikes me that you in Canada are a bunch of scared twits, true
- >>ninnies in the essence of the word to put up with such crap from a
- >>supposed member in good standing of the "free" world.
- >>I am ashamed to live next to you.
- >
- >Feel free to move. Panama is nice this time of year, I hear.
- >
- >>- Richard Steven Walz
- >Brian Jenkins
- --------------------------------------
- I already have a nice place to live, thank you. And being ashamed
- shouldn't bother me. It should bother you.
- - R. Steven Walz
-