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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:45:47 1996
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From: [e-mail](Gerald Schmitt )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: *** AEA DSP-232 only $ 379.00 ***
Date: 4 Dec 1996 01:32:17 GMT
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In <57nfph$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
writes:
>
>In article <[e-mail]>, Bob <chainsaw.at.tfs.net>
wrote:
>>Wouldn't it have been a little more fair of you to caveat your ad
here
>>with the note that they who buy AEA products now do so with little to
>>no possibility of product support, since AEA is about to go belly up?
>>Oh well, bidness is bidness!!!
>
>Ah, "product support" - the cry of the appliance operator. Maybe you
>should invest in a soldering gun and test equipment, Bob.
>
>KH2PZ

And how exactly will the soldering iron panacea help with the lack of
promised firmware? Please restrict your answer to one (1) Blue Book.

                                Jerry



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:45:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: *** AEA DSP-232 only $ 379.00 ***
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In article <57nfph$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman) wr
ites:
>In article <[e-mail]>, Bob <chainsaw.at.tfs.net> wrote:
>>Wouldn't it have been a little more fair of you to caveat your ad here
>>with the note that they who buy AEA products now do so with little to
>>no possibility of product support, since AEA is about to go belly up?
>>Oh well, bidness is bidness!!!
>
>Ah, "product support" - the cry of the appliance operator. Maybe you
>should invest in a soldering gun and test equipment, Bob.
>
>KH2PZ

And an ICE, a good disassembler, a logic analyzer with a *deep* FIFO,
an EPROM burner and a PLA programmer, etc. Just be sure to keep that
soldering *gun* well away from the unit. There's nothing inside that
can tolerate that kind of abuse.

You *can* reverse engineer the unit if it isn't too badly fried,
but it'll be a lot easier to do it now while it is working rather
than waiting for a custom ASIC or EPROM to fail. Of course if AEA
releases source, you won't need any of that, other than the burner
and PLA programmer.

Gary
--
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:45:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: *** AEA DSP-232 only $ 379.00 ***
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Date: 4 Dec 1996 11:53:19 GMT
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Jeffrey Herman ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Ah, "product support" - the cry of the appliance operator. Maybe you
: should invest in a soldering gun and test equipment, Bob.


I don't hink you are being fair here Jeff. While debugging an rf circuit is
a skill one can learn with relative ease, real time debugging of DSP
programing is a whole 'nother story.

Checking circuit boards for signal levels, dc voltages, etc is something that
can be done easily. This was Heathkit's secrect to success. Not only did they
tell you what to put where and when to solder it, they could give you a
simple debugging guide, e.g. "if no signal at point a measure voltages at
points b,c,d,e and look at this table."


With dsp code it's more like: play this recording through the system,
looking at the values at locations 0x0060, 0x333 and register 2, when you
have heard the transisitions at time points +0010123 and + 001111 ms relative
to the start of each signal set. Then find the code that processed this data,
double check your implementation of the fourier transforms and if you got it
wrong, do it over again.

Then there is the more common situation of you got it right, but after
traveling through the ether, the signal just doesn't look like it's
supposed to and you gotta put a tiny patch into the code........


Geoff


--
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Computer Science Institute, Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel
[e-mail] (02) 65 85692  Fax [phone]  MANGO 050-961-978.


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:45:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Barber)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: *** AEA DSP-232 only $ 379.00 ***
Date: 7 Dec 1996 13:27:51 GMT
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In article <583onf$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...

[snip]

>
>With dsp code it's more like: play this recording through the system,
>looking at the values at locations 0x0060, 0x333 and register 2, when you
>have heard the transisitions at time points +0010123 and + 001111 ms relative
>to the start of each signal set. Then find the code that processed this data,
>double check your implementation of the fourier transforms and if you got it
>wrong, do it over again.
>
>Then there is the more common situation of you got it right, but after
>traveling through the ether, the signal just doesn't look like it's
>supposed to and you gotta put a tiny patch into the code........

AMEN !!!  (I never used to have any gray hair...)

Jim Barber, N7CXI




From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:45:52 1996
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From: "John Grove" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: 6 meter packet activity
Date: 8 Dec 1996 11:40:27 GMT
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Does anyone know of any regular packet activity on 6 meters and if so what
are the frequencies?

John KE2OI


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:45:53 1996
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From: "Erik Skovgaard" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: 6 meter packet activity
Date: 9 Dec 1996 04:34:55 GMT
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John,

When you find out, please post.

73 de VE7MDL                  ....Erik.


John Grove <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<01bbe4ff$57537020$[e-mail]>...
> Does anyone know of any regular packet activity on 6 meters and if so
what
> are the frequencies?
>
> John KE2OI
>


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:45:54 1996
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From: "Christopher (Chris) W. Boone" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: 6 meter packet activity
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 08:04:10 -0800
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John Grove wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of any regular packet activity on 6 meters and if so what
> are the frequencies?
>
> John KE2OI

51.7 seems to be a popular channel BUT with the recent rptr expansion, I
wouldnt look at that freq....

With the way 6mtrs is now (three or more different bandplans for the FM
section), noone knows where to operate...

I think I have also heard of 50.7 being mentioned.....but not sure of
that...

As a proponent of a 1.6 Mhz offset on 6mtr FM, the plan also includes 1
Mhzz offset pairs for packets between 52.6-52.7 and 53.6-53.7 Mhz

I dont think any other rptr bandplan for 6 includes ANY channels set
aside of packet operation...much less duplex...(but I could be wrong)

I have always thought 6 would be excellent for long haul backbone
operation at speeds up to 9600 baud...with low band gear being CHEAP on
the used market (my former company just got rid of all their lowband gear
and went 800Mhz), and the distance 6mtr offers as reliable operation, it
would be a good band to look at.

73
Chris
WB5ITT


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:45:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
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Subject: Re: 6 meter packet activity
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The Southern California 6m bandplan includes 4 repeater channels for
packet - 51.12 and the three above it.  51.12 is in use for 4800 bps
simplex, and its corresponding input (51.62) is in use for 9600 bps
simplex.  I am not aware of any packet repeaters in the area.
        - Brian


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:45:56 1996
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Subject: About chip AM7911
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The dear colleagues!
I want to have the information on a volume where it is possible to purchase
the microcircuit chip AM7911.
What its price?
I shall be grateful for the answer on my E mail.
73! Konstantin, RK1 NA ex UN1 CD






From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:45:56 1996
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From: William Vynck <[e-mail]>
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Subject: ACARS
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Hello,

Need urgent a schematic to build a ACARS decoder
Also the software is VERY welcome


THANKS !!!!

73
William


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Visit my Homepage : http://www.ping.be/RACO
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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:45:57 1996
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From: sg <[e-mail]>
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Subject: aea dsp-232 + Mac + satellite fax, help please
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Hi,
I am looking to see if anybody has found or made software to receive
sattelite faxes with the dsp-232 on the macintosh. If you have knowledge
of such beast, please e-mail me at [e-mail]
thanks
steve genz, wi0e


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:45:58 1996
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From: Joesph Fenn <[e-mail]>
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Subject: AeA now fin. What next
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Any of you packet types got any recommendations as to what new guys to
packet should go with.   Kantronics was AEA biggest competitor at one
time, and they produced the "Kam plus" think it was called.  My friend
just starting up wants recommendation for TNC that can handle both
VHF and HF ports at 1200 and 9600 baud as well as Amtor and Pactor.
Does the "kam +" do all this, or if not then does anybody make TNC
that offers all the above and not preparing to quit the business?.
                    Joe




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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:45:59 1996
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From: "Jeff W. Hockert" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: aprs help
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:15:33 -0800
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I'm looking for a source for the windows version of the APRS program, and
associated maps.

Please reply to [e-mail].

Tnx.
-- Jason, N7IME



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Keith Sproul)
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In article <[e-mail]>,
"Jeff W. Hockert" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I'm looking for a source for the windows version of the APRS program, and
> associated maps.
>
> Please reply to [e-mail].
>
> Tnx.
> -- Jason, N7IME


It is available at

http://www.tapr.org

and


http://aprs.rutgers.edu/APRS/


The current version is 1.1.7

Keith Sproul


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:01 1996
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From: "FUman" <[e-mail]>
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Jim Hutchings <[e-mail]> wrote in article =
<[e-mail]>...

> second, I have been in the unfortunate position where a qualified =
capable=20
> lawyer was required.  To my great relief, we won our case and I vowed =
to=20
> never again tell another lawyer joke...I no longer get the humor
> Jim Hutchings  VE5HM

Gee, good for you Jim! How much did he charge you?

Don't you ever wonder about the screwball laws being written everyday
to restrict and regulate our laws? Do you think they're written by
Joe Concerned Citizen?

How about the financial impact lawyers have on our everyday lives?
Every time they win some humongous settlement in some pea brained
case it ends up costing the taxpayers and consumers.

Ever look up justice in the dictionary? How about all those crooks and
murders that get off every year due to some "technicality"? Ever hear
of the case of the divorce where the mom was suicidal and mentally
unable to cope without anti-psychotic medication and the father was
"normal"...mom got custody.

The responses you see here are direct reflections of our own experiences
and disdain for lawyers. When one threatedned to sue me, I posted it
so the world could see what they are really like.

Sorry you don't agree that the world would be a safer and cheaper place
without them.

de kg7fu


















From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:02 1996
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From: Jim Hutchings <[e-mail]>
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>
> Sorry you don't agree that the world would be a safer and cheaper place
> without them.
>
> de kg7fu
>
> The anti-gun control groups have a snappy slogan that basically says,
"guns don't cause crime any more than flys cause garbage".  Without
debating the validity of that particular statement, I think that it's
unfair to blame lawyers for the state of our society.  I'm not suggesting
that I agree with the strange things that go on in the "legal system"
(anyone collecting oxymorons??).
On the positive side of this topic, you might note that the Feds have now
decreed that aircraft manufacturers will only be liable for 18 years
after their product has been sold instead of eternity.  Common sense does
prevail eventually.
Another point to consider is that many of these unbelievable judgements
have been rendered by juries!!  Has the point been reached where we can
no longer trust the juries??
Our society has serious problems and sleazy lawyers are a symptom, not
the problem itself.
Honest, hardworking lawyers do exist and are a valuable commodity when
someone decides to rain on your parade.  And yes, they're not
necessarily cheap, but most will try to keep costs down when they know
you're not well-off.
73 de Jim Hutchings VE5HM


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In article <[e-mail]>,
        Jim Hutchings  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>> The anti-gun control groups have a snappy slogan that basically says,
>"guns don't cause crime any more than flys cause garbage".  Without
>debating the validity of that particular statement, I think that it's
>unfair to blame lawyers for the state of our society.

You are, to some degree, correct.

The proliferation of lawsuits really isn't the fault of the Trial
Lawyers Association. In a sense, they are merely providing a service
to accomodate a demand for legal services in our country.

It is the desire to "get rich quick" (and sueing someone seems to
be a way of doing that with little to no risk if you can get a
lawyer to take your case on a percentage basis, which most will)
that the American people have today [inherently lazy bastards
they are -- the Japanese were right -- they want to lay around
with the good life, no work, have everything paid for them by
someone else -- basically an extension of the welfare-state
mentality that permeates this country today].

MD
--
--
--  "Guns don't kill people. I kill people." -- T-shirt slogan
--
--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


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From: Roy Keeley <[e-mail]>
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Jim Hutchings wrote:
>
> Anthony S. Pelliccio wrote:
> >
> > In article <[e-mail]>,  <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > >There are only 3 laywer jokes...
> > >
> > >all the rest are true stories!
> >
> > I can pretty much believe that. After reading those it makes me wish
> > I had a daughter so I could forbid her to marry a lawyer. :)
> >
> > >>Why is it that when you tell a 'joke' about an Irishman it is called
> > >>tasteless; when you tell a joke about a black it is called racist, and
> > >>when you tell a joke about a lawyer it is called funny?
> >
> > Even though you didn't post this, I missed the original response so here
> > goes:
> >
> > The reason it's funny is because by and large most lawyers are lower
> > than slime.
> >
> > Tony
>
> first of all, I doubt that this is a reasonable place to be posting this
> stuff.
> second, I have been in the unfortunate position where a qualified capable
> lawyer was required.  To my great relief, we won our case and I vowed to
> never again tell another lawyer joke...I no longer get the humor
> Jim Hutchings  VE5HM

I too once needed a lawyer, and he came thru for me. I think the problem
is the
bottom half of the class. This lower 50% has contemp for the law, and
they are
who the lawyer joke are for. Basically, it is the Judges who have my
contemp, but
then they are lawyers also. And if you say, "What about the judge in my
case, where
I won", I will just say, at one point, the Judge fell asleep, and I won
in spite of him, mainly because of the strength of my lawyer.
--
73's

Roy KC4IMC

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
Snail Mail = 10675 Salt Aire Rd, E., Theodore, AL 36582, USA


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Subject: Re: ARRL lawyer to sue member
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FUman wrote:
...
> Don't you ever wonder about the screwball laws being written everyday
> to restrict and regulate our laws? Do you think they're written by
> Joe Concerned Citizen?
>
I personally think that the best thing we could do was to give congress,
(etc.) 5  years to re-touch all of the laws to make them understandable
by the average product of our school system. It would be their choice as
to modifying the laws or improving the education system! ;o)

If it has been so poorly written that only a lawyer can read it, and two
lawyers come to different opinions of what it means, then it should not
be binding! (Think what that would do the the tax structure).

$.02 from W6QS -- Don


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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>>
>> Sorry you don't agree that the world would be a safer and cheaper place
>> without them.
>>
>> de kg7fu
>>
>> The anti-gun control groups have a snappy slogan that basically says,
>"guns don't cause crime any more than flys cause garbage".  Without
>debating the validity of that particular statement, I think that it's
>unfair to blame lawyers for the state of our society.  I'm not suggesting
>that I agree with the strange things that go on in the "legal system"
>(anyone collecting oxymorons??).
>On the positive side of this topic, you might note that the Feds have now
>decreed that aircraft manufacturers will only be liable for 18 years
>after their product has been sold instead of eternity.  Common sense does
>prevail eventually.
>Another point to consider is that many of these unbelievable judgements
>have been rendered by juries!!  Has the point been reached where we can
>no longer trust the juries??
>Our society has serious problems and sleazy lawyers are a symptom, not
>the problem itself.
>Honest, hardworking lawyers do exist and are a valuable commodity when
>someone decides to rain on your parade.  And yes, they're not
>necessarily cheap, but most will try to keep costs down when they know
>you're not well-off.
>73 de Jim Hutchings VE5HM
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Because Lawyer jokes ARE funny.

What's the difference between a lawyer and a catfish?  One is a scum
sucking bottom feeder, and the other is a fish.

There.

Now sue me! :)


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Hello,

Anyone know th Arizona APRS frequency for APRS?


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Can anyone point me to a web page that has
the bell 202 spec. (info for 1200 baud)?

Thanks,
Ted...
(KJ6ZJ)


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In article <[e-mail]> Ted Yamada <[e-mail]>
 writes:
>From: Ted Yamada <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Bell 202 spec on the net?
>Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 14:05:24 -0800

>Can anyone point me to a web page that has
>the bell 202 spec. (info for 1200 baud)?

No, but it uses 1200 and 2200 Hz and is half duplex only.


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From: Roger Barker <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Igor Blakunov <[e-mail]> writes
>Hi.
>
>Can anyone say me, how the BPQ packet switch share interupts with
>an identical levels?
>
>I defined a one virtual comport (COM7) from two real ports (COM2 and
>COM4). But these real COM ports have an identical IRQ - 3 and BPQ
>switch don't work correctly.

I don't think you will ever get that to work. Why not put one port on
another IRQ? Unless you have a lot of hardware fitted, IRQ2 and IRQ5 can
often be used. If you COM ports cannot be jumpered for those IRQs, it is
usually easy to do it with a cut track and a link...

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE  [e-mail]
Boston, UK           "Be tolerant of everything, except for intolerance!"


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On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Igor Blakunov wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Can anyone say me, how the BPQ packet switch share interupts with
> an identical levels?
>
> I defined a one virtual comport (COM7) from two real ports (COM2 and
> COM4). But these real COM ports have an identical IRQ - 3 and BPQ
> switch don't work correctly.
>
> My BPQCFG.TXT file (port section):
>
> TNCPORT
>   COM=7
> ENDPORT
>
> PORT
>   .
>   .
>   TYPE=ASYNC
>   PROTOCOL=KISS
>   IOADDR=2F8H
>   INTLEVEL=3
>   .
>   .
> ENDPORT
>
> PORT
>   .
>   .
>   TYPE=ASYNC
>   PROTOCOL=KISS
>   IOADDR=2E8H
>   INTLEVEL=3
>   .
>   .
> ENDPORT
>
>
> My equipment: PC 486DX 50MHz, 2 x MFJ-1270C in KISS mode,
> Software: BPQ 4.08a, BPQHTNC2 driver.
>
> 73!
> Igor.
> e-mail: [e-mail]
>
>
I use BPQ with a 386 and F6FBB working for about 2 months.
I had problems with it too. I don't know about anyone else
but, I had to us different IRQ's for each com port.
Try using only one com port at first and then use the other
prot by itself too. If they work OK then you should reconfigure
your comm ports to use different IRQ's. I use an 8 bit card for
com 1 and 2 irq 3 and 4 and use a 16 bit card for com 3 irq 5.
I also use kantronics KPC2 kiss protocol.
   Also make sure that you have the right IRQ matched to the
right comm port too, in the bpqcfg.txt
good luck de KB8LZG



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Greetings all.
I have seen  BBS's on the packet network have the ability to do callbook
lookups.

Could I do this from my standard TNC? (KPC-3)
What do I need to do to set this up, so for example when soemone connects to
my station they could enter cb n1rwy and get the correct information off a
cd...

What do I need to do. ?

Thanks,   Jason   N1RWY


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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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>>I have seen  BBS's on the packet network have the ability to do
>>callbook lookups. Could I do this from my standard TNC? (KPC-3)

YES - KaGOLD software allows your Users to access the major Callbook
CD-ROMs painlessly!

Let me know if you already have KaGOLD set up!


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From: [e-mail] (Maurizio Di Mattia - I0DZR)
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    Hi,  in the thank you for your attention, I want to tell you that
I have prepared the my first Web page on Internet.  It  contains  any
information about me and exclusively Italian links about the world of
the Radio (but not only this).
If the thing could interest you, the address is the following:

        http://www.infochase.com/comp/I0DZR

    Comments or suggestions will have appreciated.
    Thank you and my best 73's de I0DZR- Op. Maurizio

                    ────────────────

    Ciao, nel ringraziarti per la tua attenzione, voglio dirti che ho
preparato la mia prima pagina Web su Internet.  Essa contiene  alcune
informazioni su di me e links esclusivamente italiani riguardanti  il
mondo della Radio (ma non solo questo).
Se la cosa ti puo' interessare, l'indirizzo e' il seguente:

        http://www.infochase.com/comp/I0DZR

    Commenti o suggerimenti saranno apprezzati.
    Grazie ed i miei migliori 73's de I0DZR - Op. Maurizio





From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:18 1996
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From: "Patricia E. Gibbons" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: CQ CQ > 80 Meter G-tor/Pactor Mode - 3639.00 KHz
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 17:40:13 -0800
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I am currently active on 80 meters with a Kantronics Kam+ with version
8.0
firmware and KaGold version 9.x

If anyone is looking for keyboard-to-keyboard activity on the 80 meter
band, try this:
     a: set your mark tone = 1000 Hz
     b: set space tone     = 1200 Hz
     c: set shift          = modem

dial up your HF rig to a suppressed carrier freq of: 3639.00 KHz, Lower
Sideband
and try a connect with my station. I have been generating a little more
activity
on 80 meters by just being persistant and letting the rig call robot
CQ's in
TOR mode. This allows the station calling me to use either Pactor or
G-tor. My
KAM will autodetect which mode and switch accordingly..

If I am NOT around, I am leaving my ARQBBS = On.

If you connect in this case, you will get routed to my PBBS mailbox.
My 2-meter port is on 145.03 in the South-Bay/ San Jose Area and
messages left on my mailbox can be retrieved via HF Gtor/Pactor
or on VHF Packet..

Cheers!  =:-o
Patricia Gibbons / Mt. Hamilton Calif
<[e-mail]>

--

Patricia Gibbons- "The Vertical Skywave Girl" ...
<[e-mail]>
Mobile repair shop supervisor - City of San Jose/ ITD-Communications
PGP Public key available at: < http://bs.mit.edu:8001/pks-toplev.html >
User id: wa6ube
PGP Fingerprint: 84 7A 61 69 0E CE 73 E7 5F B4 8C BE FE 09 87 B5


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (George Bukowski)
Subject: DataPrecision 5740
Date: 7 Dec 96 04:17:01 -0800
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I acquired (at a thrift store) a Data Precision Model 5740 frequency
counter. Is anyone familiar with this piece of equipment?, and how I
could test it for accuracy?  Digital display reads out, but I have no
manual to guide me.  Any suggestions?

George  KN6EP  Sacramento


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Digital Sats for Maritime Mobile
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 96 04:23:16 GMT
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I have not followed the development of the packet capable amateur satellites
but I believe there are some in operation.  As a sometimes off shore sailor
and a radio amateur, I am asked by fellow sailors whether they should get a
ham licence and how effective it would be.  I tell them about 20m ssb, about
hf packet and amtor but I also go on about how low earth store and forward
packet satellites will be available one day.  But maybe they are now?

The ideal packet system for offshore use would allow the offshore sailing ham
to prepare a packet message and the software would determine when a bird is
overhead and send up the message and pick up any waiting mail.  Are these
birds ready to do this?  Is there software that would do it?  Am I right that
these can be worked with small omni antennas?

I think they require dual band operation?  Which bands?  Hopefully they are
bands that can be worked with readily available dual band mobile rigs?

I have thought about this from time to time but I am not up to date on what is
available.  Anyone want to try to update me??

Thanks.


73 de Ken      10-Dec-96 19:21
VE7KGW@VE7KGW.#NVI.BC.CAN.NOAM
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alan Biddle)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: DSP-2232 &SSTV?
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 12:52:44 GMT
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Hans,

About a year ago I spent some time looking for a SSTV and/or fax
program that would work with the 2232.  AEA never released the
information on the existing software interface, so none of the
software suppliers I contacted were interested in expanding to include
the 2232..  Oddly now that AEA is out of business some of this
information my become available, but for now there is probably
nothing.  I hope I am wrong!

Alan



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:23 1996
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From: Steven Stark <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equiptment
Subject: DSP-232 and APRS
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:21:35 -0500
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Hello,
 Does anyone have any suggestions on getting APRS 7.7 to Recognize and
communicate with a DSP-232. I tried going to the comm screen to get the
command prompt and then tried to Initialize. I was never able to get a
command prompt at the comm screen. Any help would be greatly
appreciated!  73's
--

Steve Stark N4YOG ([e-mail])
.


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (dslosty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equiptment
Subject: Re: DSP-232 and APRS
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:26:03 GMT
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Steven Stark <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hello,
> Does anyone have any suggestions on getting APRS 7.7 to Recognize and
>communicate with a DSP-232. I tried going to the comm screen to get the
>command prompt and then tried to Initialize. I was never able to get a
>command prompt at the comm screen. Any help would be greatly
>appreciated!  73's
>--

>Steve Stark N4YOG ([e-mail])

Can't comment on the APRS specifics but I do know that
about half of the DSP-232's firmware modes have bugs in them.

In in original V1.0 firmware, the unit isn't CCIR compatible, won't
properly maintain phase-lock in AMTOR/SITOR mode B,
can't maintain phase-lock in Navtext, has only mediocre copy
in PACTOR, not all modems are implemented, etc, etc.

I recently talked with the ARRL about their recent review
of the DSP-232. They admit that they didn't have the unit
long enough to discover all of the software bugs which have
now come to light.

AEA recognized this and has shipped revised frimware chips.
Did you send in your coupon packed with the DSP-232???

I got the new firmware chips about two weeks ago.
Haven't installed them yet so don't know how much they will
help although reports are that some of the bugs have been eliminated.

If you haven't received the new chips by now it's is probably too late
- with AEA shutting down.

Hopefully, someone will pick up the firmware support for their TNC
product line. There's probably a good business in upgrading PK-232,
DSP-232 and other model's firmware.

Doug/WA1TUT

nnnn




From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:25 1996
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From: sg <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: dsp232 and multiple connects, any problems????
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 13:03:03 -0800
Organization: yup
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I was wondering if other hams had problems with the dsp232 disconnecting
with the primary node after trying to connect with a 3rd station. Mine
seems to drop out on the 3rd connect.
sincerely,
Steve, Wi0e


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (George F. Arsics, Jr.)
Subject: Re: Encryption of voice over amateur frequencies is Not legal
Date: 2 Dec 96 04:36:56 -0800
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     Probably doesn't much matter anymore anyway.  All 15 of the
FCC's monitoring stations were permanently closed earlier this
year anyway.  FCC Chairman Reed Hundt's talk of remote monitoring
schemes are just that, schemes & lies used to fool the public
and Congress.  The extensive equipment at monitoring stations and
the pool of talented people who manned the stations are history!
      Reed Hundt is the most incompetent person ever to hold
the office of Chairman of the FCC, we can thank Bill Clinton for
appointing him to that office!   The country's domestic monitoring
system is now committed to the history books, while Hundt continues
to lie and place more lawyers on the FCC pay roll!



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (George F. Arsics, Jr.)
Subject: Re: Encryption of voice over amateur frequencies is Not legal
Date: 3 Dec 96 18:29:57 -0800
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      The entire discussion is moot, meaningless, since the FCC closed
all 15 of its monitoring stations earlier this year.  There is no
more monitoring for enforcement such as that conducted by
monitoring stations.  FCC Chairman Reed Hundt's talk of remote
monitoring schemes is just that, a scheme, a way to fool the
public, lie to Congress and enable Hundt to put more lawyers on
the FCC pay roll.
       Reed Hundt is the most incompetent person ever to hold the
office of Chairman of the FCC and the deteriorating condition of
the HF portion of the spectrum proves it!




From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:29 1996
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From: Neal Campbell - ON9CNC <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FIRST CLOVER JAMBOREE
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 12:54:22 +0000
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Announcing the First Clover Jamboree!!

What is it?
The Clover Jamboree is an event to stimulate the usage of Clover as well
as meet new people who are using it! The Jamboree promotes as many
contacts as possible on all HF bands. It is not a contest, so everyone
will be a winner!

When is it?
0000z 25 January 1997 thru 2400z 26 January 1997

How do I participate?
Simple, work as many Clover stations on all HF bands!

How do I report my participation?
1. For each contact, record:
Callsign, Date, Time, Freq., Power, S/N of station worked, Phase of
station worked.
2. Send a list of your contacts to: [e-mail], or to a MBO
(which we will specify later).
3. Of course, send any comments that you might like to make
4. Send anything to the IDRA reflector about the event.

What frequencies should I use?
We want Clover stations to spread out, but suggested starting
frequencies are:
28065+-
24920+-
21065+-
18100+-
14065+-
10130+-
7035 +- or 7080+- (for stateside ops)
3580+-

Any other suggestions?
Yes! First of all, when working someone, try QSY'ing to another band. We
want to hear clover signals everywhere!
Second of all, send QSLs for all of your contacts. Mark on the QSL card
"CLOVER JAMBOREE" in big letters.

Where will I see the results?
We will publish some results in the May Digital Journal, and, of course,
on the DJ webpage.


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:30 1996
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From: Mike <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FS:  Packet with radio, Mac, power supply
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:22:29 -0500
Organization: S3
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Fully functional.  Included is a Macintosh computer, a TNC, a DC
power supply and a two-meter FM radio.  Software and manuals are
included.


(1)  $400.00
Mac Plus 2 Meg memory and built-in 40 meg hard drive
with keyboard and mouse.
AEA PK-232 MBX TNC unit
KDK 2033 (25 watts) 2 meter FM tranceiver
Azden DC power supply
All cables for direct plug-in


     The unit is at my home, in Hampton, Minnesota, USA.  The prices
reflect US dollars, and do not include shipping.

     The Mac computer equipment can be split from the above package.

     System is now on the air on 145.050 Mhz.

     Thank you!  -Mike  K0JTA


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:31 1996
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From: Jim <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FS: 9600baud systems
Date: 4 Dec 1996 17:39:30 GMT
Organization: USL CMCN Department
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I have 2 Kantronics Dataengines for sale with 9600/19k2
modems and/or 1200 baud modems.
I also have 2 Alinco data radios factory converted for above.
Additionally 2 tekk ks900 data radios

Please e-mail me if interested
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:31 1996
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From: Joe Lanoue <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FS: AEA DM-1 Deviation Meter
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 19:26:16 -0500
Organization: Times Microwave Systems
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Have brand new (mint condition) AEA DM-1 deviation meter for sale.
Covers 144, 220, 440 MHz. Asking $125. Leave message or call
203-271-0027.

Best Regards...Joe




From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.portables,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FS: Laptop-386 and Modem ...
Date: 9 Dec 1996 20:51:06 GMT
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I am selling my Laptop 386,  Reason! I replaced it with a 486
The stats are as follows:
                           Grid 1755, Laptop
                           386SX 20 mhz
                           4mb Ram/1.44 Floppy/80mb HD
                           LCD  (mono)
                           12Volt Battery/Charger
                           VGA port for Color Monitor
                           Port for External Keyboard
                           Port for External Mouse
                           Printer Port
                           2400bps External Modem

                           Dos 6.2 and Windows 3.11
                           Manual and original Setup Discs
                   Price $400.00 or best offer.
                                               73 ........ Bob


I



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:34 1996
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I am selling my Laptop 386,  Reason! I replaced it with a 486
The stats are as follows:
                           Grid 1755, Laptop
                           386SX 20 mhz
                           4mb Ram/1.44 Floppy/80mb HD
                           LCD  (mono)
                           12Volt Battery/Charger
                           VGA port for Color Monitor
                           Port for External Keyboard
                           Port for External Mouse
                           Printer Port
                           2400bps External Modem

                           Dos 6.2 and Windows 3.11
                           Manual and original Setup Discs
                   Price $400.00 or best offer.
                                               73 ........ Bob


I



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (bradly)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FS: Realistic HTX-202
Date: 8 Dec 1996 22:52:55 GMT
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4 SALE:

2 meter radio, Realistic HTX-202 handheld.

Excellent condition. $200.00 and i will pay shipping.

call me at 561-791-0137 or e-mail me at [e-mail]. Im located in
south florida.



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: RE: FS: Realistic HTX-202
Date: Mon,  9 Dec 1996 07:00:00 GMT
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>>2 meter radio, Realistic HTX-202 handheld.
>>Excellent condition. $200.00 and i will pay shipping.

But they're less than $200. BRAND NEW WITH WARRANTY from Radio Shack!


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (bradly)
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Subject: FS: Realistic PRO-39 Scanner
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4 sale:

Realistic PRO-39 handheld scanner.

Excellent condition. $200.00 and i will pay shipping.

call me at 561-791-0137 or e-mail me at [e-mail]. Im located in
south florida.




From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:37 1996
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From: "csulok" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: ft-50 programming help
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I need some help to write a program for ft-50r. I don't have ADMS-1C.
Does anybody know what kind of port-read/write I have to do to the simple
operations?
I would also like to know the cable construction of this transceiver.

        Thanx
                Csulok  (HG7JVG)


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:39 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Garmin GPS-45XL data interface cable
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 06:39:50 -0500
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Jack Belcher, AA8IO wrote:
>
> Has anyone cracked open one of the PC data interface cables for the
> Garmin GPS-45?  Just curious if the unit would communicate directly with
> a PC's serial port or if there is some type of interface (TTL?) that
> buffers data to the PC...  Anyone's comments/experiences would help..
> Just trying to justify Garmins price for the cable.. Thanks in advance..
>
> -Jack
>
> __________________________________________________
> Jack Belcher
> AA8IO
> [e-mail]
> www.pobox.com/~jbelcher
>
---
Jack,  The data cable is just 4 wires, one for external power,one common
(gnd), data in,
data out.  The data can be connected directly to serial port even though
it isn't
true RS232.  I don't have my GP45 and notes with me as I write this, but
if you connect
to the site below you can find tons of info you seek.  You could make up
some wires with
push-on connectors to attach to the socket pins instead of buying the
special cable.
There was a guy making up cables for free, but I think he got swamped
with orders
and stopped making them.

Peter Bennetts' website for GPS and NMEA info and programs:
ftp://sundae.triumf.ca/pub/peter/index.html
or: ftp://ftp-i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/arnd/GPS/peter/index.html
or: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter/index.html

73 Gene WA4WBI


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:39 1996
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From: Ted Yamada <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Garmin GPS-45XL data interface cable
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Jack Belcher, AA8IO wrote:
 >
 > Has anyone cracked open one of the PC data interface cables for the
 > Garmin GPS-45?  Just curious if the unit would communicate directly with
 > a PC's serial port or if there is some type of interface (TTL?) that
 > buffers data to the PC...  Anyone's comments/experiences would help..
 > Just trying to justify Garmins price for the cable.. Thanks in advance..
 >
 > -Jack
 >
 > __________________________________________________
 > Jack Belcher
 > AA8IO
 > [e-mail]
 > www.pobox.com/~jbelcher

Hi Jack,
I've never cracked the case open, however the GPS-45 will communicate
cirectly with a pc's serial port. No buffers needed.
I bought the Garman cable and that's all it is. wire with a
connector on one end(+ fuse holder).
And yes, the cable's over priced IMHO..

If you can find a good source for that connector, let us know...
Ted...
(KJ6ZJ [e-mail])


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:40 1996
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Subject: Re: Garmin GPS-45XL data interface cable
From: [e-mail] (Cougercat)
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I bought a cable for a Garmin GPS 38.  It was approx 1/2 of the price for
the 45, looks the same, even has the same p/n stamped into it but costs
much less.  It even worked with my pc.

--Jeff  WB7AHT


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John D. Seney, WD1V,   LeCroy T&M   800.553.2769)
Subject: Ham Radio FAQ - WWW or TEXT File
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                  Announcing NEW Ham Radio.FAQ

This file started as a regular USENET posting called "rec.radio.amateur
.misc Frequently Asked Questions".

Ham Radio.FAQ contains 3 chapters and many, many LINKS to radio
related sites!

1 - Introduction to the Ham Radio.FAQ
2 - Amateur Radio Organizations, Services, and Data Sources
3 - Amateur Radio Advanced and Technical Questions

Please provide a copy of the Ham Radio.FAQ to any new or soon-to-be Hams
that you know or share with them the URL to this site:

              http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v

Send me an EMAIL <or packet with your Email address> if you want the
FAQ text file sent to you as an attached <120 K> file with the words
"HAM FAQ" on the subject line.


73,

John D. Seney
http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:42 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: HAMCOM INTERFACE TROUBLE
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Hello

Im trying to get my hamcom converter to operate proparly. I have a
Kenwood TS9130 transiver and a 686 pentium computer.
im trying to get my converter to work with the morse function
but my transiver is very high impendance on the cw key input
and when i put in the plug in the transmitter it directly starts to
send.
I have try to couple the collector of the transistor to a 10kohm
resistor and to my radio power but without results

pse need ideas or help

73 de SM4WDQ

pse mailto:[e-mail]





From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Eric Schecter)
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Subject: Hamcomm Interface, QST 12/96
Date: 10 Dec 1996 21:33:02 -0700
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Anyone here build the interface on p.57 of December QST? I can't get mine to
work! It tests out fine per troubleshooting guide in Hamcomm software docs.,
but there is no decoding of CW, RTTY, etc. I can tune o.k., using different
software functions, but that's about it! Any suggestions welcome here, or
[e-mail] or [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:44 1996
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From: Steve & Gale Carlisle <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Help Needed - re older Z80/CP/M based machine
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Any help would be appreciated on evaluating the use of an older Z80/CP/M
based computer. I have the terminal units only, but have no storage
device. the computer boots but cannot find it,s program. Do not know
what kind of storage medium it would have had. I can see the connector
on the backplane, looks like 7 pin header. Want to use these for RTTY
possibly. Thanks, Steve Carlisle, VE7AHL


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Scott Babb)
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Subject: How Do I Start Out Cheap?
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I'm looking for advice on how to start out cheap in digital communication.
I'll take suggestions on anything: TNC,s RTTY, AMTOR, Packet, antennas,
rigs, HF, VHF, UHF, 300/1200/9600/+++, whatever.

Thanks de wa1vht


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Helton)
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Scott Babb ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I'm looking for advice on how to start out cheap in digital communication.
: I'll take suggestions on anything: TNC,s RTTY, AMTOR, Packet, antennas,
: rigs, HF, VHF, UHF, 300/1200/9600/+++, whatever.

: Thanks de wa1vht

Baycom is a TNC in software that will turn your computer into a TNC,
if you build the Ramsey packet modem kit the software is included and
all for about $50.  I have been using it on 2m and it does a decent job.

Of course you need a pc and a radio, neither of which is cheap!

--
                                             [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:46 1996
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From: Bob Nielsen <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: HT suitable for 9600 baud packet?
Date: 6 Dec 1996 11:50:01 -0700
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Wes Shull wrote:
>
> Are there any reasonably modern (=small) HTs out there that are
> capable of 9600 baud packet, either stock or after moderate
> modification?  It seems everything I've seen lacks the proper
> provisions, having only 5kHz deviation, no direct modulator
> access, and no wide unfiltered rx access.

It might be possible with a crystal controlled HT or one of the early
synthesized models which used an offset oscillator with direct f.m. for
transmitting, like the IC02 or Tempo S-1.  You only need about 3 kHz
deviation, which depends on how hard you drive the  radio.  The i.f. on
these beasts is probably fairly wide and it is should be easy to locate
the proper point to insert/extract audio.

Bob

--
Bob Nielsen                 Internet: [e-mail]
Tucson, AZ                  AMPRnet:  [e-mail]
                            AX.25:    [e-mail]
                            http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Greenwood)
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Subject: Re: HT suitable for 9600 baud packet?
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On 6 Dec 1996 03:55:12 GMT, [e-mail] (Wes
Shull) wrote:

>Are there any reasonably modern (=small) HTs out there that are
>capable of 9600 baud packet, either stock or after moderate
>modification?  It seems everything I've seen lacks the proper
>provisions, having only 5kHz deviation, no direct modulator
>access, and no wide unfiltered rx access.
>

The Yaesu FT 790 works very well at 9k6 baud but you do need to do a
small modification to the G3RUH modem. I can supply details if you
want them.

73 de g4xhs John
                                [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Chris)
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Eny mod for icom ic-t7 ?


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:49 1996
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Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 17:51:03 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: I┤m just starting out..
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Hi everyone!

I┤m taking my tech test very soon now and I would like to get started on
Packet radio (2m + 70cm), maybe some SSTV later on.

I┤m looking for a TNC which also has the capability to receive
wheater-fax, since I┤m a member of a sailing club, but I would like to
start out cheap, say $200
max.
I live in a large city. What type of antenna should I get? A Groundplane
or a Yagi? One yagi I saw in an add has 10 dB forward gain, the other has
13.5 dB. Does it make a noticeable difference between the
two?

When I went shopping for a nice mobile I noticed that on many models
there is a 1200 and a 9600 bps port. Why is
that?

Well, thanks in adance

73, Patrick (no call yet) =:)
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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:50 1996
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From: "Chris Mason" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Johnson, KY packet freqs and node names
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I am getting ready to travel in a couple of weeks for the holiday to
Paintsville, KY... If anyone knows of any local node names and packet freqs
used there plz help...tia, 73 and gud dx...chris <sk>



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (James McCloskey)
Subject: KaGold
Date: 10 Dec 96 02:07:41 -0800
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I was wondering if anyone out there has any comments, good or bad
about KaGold software for my Kam plus Tnc. Any comments will be
appreciated. 73 de Jim, KE3OP ..._._


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:51 1996
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From: RJ Scott <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: KaGold
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James McCloskey wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone out there has any comments, good or bad
> about KaGold software for my Kam plus Tnc. Any comments will be
> appreciated. 73 de Jim, KE3OP ..._._

Jim, Before you lay out your hard earned cash I would investigate all
the
programs that are out there.  There are several and all have thier own
merrits.  I personally suggest XP-WIN by KF7XP ... he has a homepage
and you can download a demo which will allow you 100 uses before it will
no longer work.  Its an excellent program that has all the features that
I enjoy.  Great split screen and works under windows perfectly.

If you only use dos then try his XP-KAM.  Its a KAM specific program and
has all the properties of XP-WIN only in DOS.  A demo is also available
via his HOMEPAGE.  As far as support I believe that Gary's is the best
of all. (and Ive tried em all) He is fast and efficient and is always
ready to listen.

Give it a try and good luck


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: RE: KaGold
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 21:23:00 GMT
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>>I was wondering if anyone out there has any comments, good or bad
>>about KaGold software...

The absolute finest TNC program I found. Good support, too. Responsive
authors, who really listen to us Users.

KaGOLD got me up and running painlessly...and you can "grow" with it as
you learn more about packet. It also interfaces with the major Callsign
CD-ROMS for instant identification of whom you're connected with.


[e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:53 1996
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From: williams michael j <[e-mail]>
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Subject: KAM question
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Does anyone have a manual or listing of the commands for a Kantronics
KAM modem??  I am going to possibly buy a used unit that doesn't have
the manual...
mike
wa9agu


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From: [e-mail] (Paul Zander)
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Subject: Re: KAM question
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Kantronics will sell the manuals separately.  I know because I have
purchased new manuals along with upgrade ROMs for my KAM.


73, Paul AA6PZ
[e-mail]


williams michael j ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Does anyone have a manual or listing of the commands for a Kantronics
: KAM modem??  I am going to possibly buy a used unit that doesn't have
: the manual...
: mike
: wa9agu


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:55 1996
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KAWIN NEWS - Announcing KaWin 6.47

KaWin 6.47 is ready for download from the KaWin Home Page:

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Enhancements include:

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station is now included in the result of a call sign
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New "p" and "l" macros to insert your geographic position
coordinates and locator grid.

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From: [e-mail] (Dave)
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Subject: Looking for that homebrew RS-232 RTTY adapter...
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some time back, I downloaded a .jpg or .gif of a very simple
op amp circuit for an adapter that allows a standard serial
port to read RTTY (I think there was a xmting version too, but
I'm not sure).  I plan to use Hamcom.  The circuit used just
a 741 and was extremely simple to build, and would work
with Hamcom.

I've tried to find the URL, but no luck.  Anyone know where I
saw that?


Dave

[e-mail]


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From: Bigdad <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Looking for that homebrew RS-232 RTTY adapter...
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[e-mail] (Dave) wrote:
>
>
>some time back, I downloaded a .jpg or .gif of a very simple
>op amp circuit for an adapter that allows a standard serial
>port to read RTTY (I think there was a xmting version too, but
>I'm not sure).  I plan to use Hamcom.  The circuit used just
>a 741 and was extremely simple to build, and would work
>with Hamcom.
>
>I've tried to find the URL, but no luck.  Anyone know where I
>saw that?
>
>
>Dave
>
>[e-mail]

That adapter is detailed within the help file of the hamcomm
program itself...its also given in the JVFAX program. The lil
comparator also works with other software such as the pocsag
pager decoder.



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:46:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gene Marshall)
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Subjects just about says it all.  I'm trying to locate a PC program (DOS based
is fine) which will take serial port input from the GC1000 clock and set the
PC time.

Does anyone have such a program or, perhaps, the program HeathKit (R.I.P.)
used to supply?

Many thanks,
Gene
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cohn)
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In article <58d3eq$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gene Marshall) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Gene Marshall)
>Subject: Looking for time setting program for HeathKit's Most-Accurate Clock
GC1000
>Date: 7 Dec 1996 18:51:38 -0600

>Subjects just about says it all.  I'm trying to locate a PC program (DOS base
d
>is fine) which will take serial port input from the GC1000 clock and set the
>PC time.

>Does anyone have such a program or, perhaps, the program HeathKit (R.I.P.)
>used to supply?

>Many thanks,
>Gene

The clock was not set by an external program from the PC port. It would set
itself by listening to WWV on either 5, 10, or 15MHz. The  clock contains a
scanning receiver. The display would stay black until it had received WWV long

enough to be confidant the time was correct. This could take many hours at
first. You did need to set the dip switch inside to tell the clock the time
zone you were in.

By the way Heathkit is still in Benton Harbor, MI. You might want to look them

up.

Bill Cohn
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:00 1996
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From: Ron Stordahl <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Micor Preamp - useful?
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 14:43:08 -0600
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I am building up 3 110 watt VHF Micors for 3 remote nodes, each of which
pushes the distance for reliable connections.  It would seem obvious
that these radios should employ the Motorola Micor standard preamp which
offers 6-10 db of additional sensitivity.  I am wondering if there is
any downside to the addition of this device.  It is an option, which
most hams typically do not use, probably because it is unneeded in their
particular installation as well as the fact that it is not inexpensive
and a little bit rare.  I do have them available to me however.

What is your experience with the preamp?

Ron N5IN


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:01 1996
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From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Micor Preamp - useful?
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Hi Ron,

> I am building up 3 110 watt VHF Micors for 3 remote nodes, each of which
> pushes the distance for reliable connections.  It would seem obvious
> that these radios should employ the Motorola Micor standard preamp which
> offers 6-10 db of additional sensitivity.  I am wondering if there is
> any downside to the addition of this device.  It is an option, which
> most hams typically do not use, probably because it is unneeded in their
> particular installation as well as the fact that it is not inexpensive
> and a little bit rare.  I do have them available to me however.
>
> What is your experience with the preamp?

I have several VHF Micors in use, but I've decided against using the preamp.
All of my equipment is used at sites that have other radio equipment
on them.  The preamp is added AHEAD of the 5 helical resonators in the
VHF Micor -- the preamp only adds two.  On a site with some rf, you might
find that you need a cavity or two to clean up desense.  Even without
the preamp, a few cavities are still needed to keep a couple
megawatts of rf out of a VHF Micor :-)

The best way to determine if a preamp can survive, is to go to the site,
install your equipment, and measure the desense with and without the
preamp when co-located transmitters are on-the-air.  Generally, you'll know
right away...

-----
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Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Micor Preamp - useful?
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>I am building up 3 110 watt VHF Micors for 3 remote nodes, each of which
>pushes the distance for reliable connections.  It would seem obvious
>that these radios should employ the Motorola Micor standard preamp which
>offers 6-10 db of additional sensitivity.  I am wondering if there is
>any downside to the addition of this device.  It is an option, which
>most hams typically do not use, probably because it is unneeded in their
>particular installation as well as the fact that it is not inexpensive
>and a little bit rare.  I do have them available to me however.
>
>What is your experience with the preamp?

Preamp gain is relatively unimportant. What is important is the
noise figure of the preamp. It will set the noise figure of the
receiver, and hence how weak a signal the receiver can demodulate
successfully. FM receivers have gobs of gain, that's never a problem.
If the receiver already has a good noise figure, addition of a preamp
(at the receiver) doesn't do much good. If the feedline run is long,
adding a preamp *at the antenna* can be useful because otherwise
feedline loss directly degrades the receiving system noise figure.

The only way to tell if the preamp is helping is to do a SINAD
measurement. If the addition of the preamp allows you to achieve
12db SINAD at a lower input signal level, then it may be worthwhile.
If it doesn't make a difference, or makes things worse, then you
don't want to use it. And that's not the whole story, you also have
to test whether adding the preamp has harmed the third order intercept
of the receiver, and whether the site you're going to be putting it
will be usable at that intercept.

Now the Micor preamp does *not* have a significantly better noise
figure than the basic receiver in my experience. So it doesn't do
much good to add it to the receiver. In high RF areas, its extra
gain can actually be harmful because it can push a later receiver
stage into overload, and you'll suffer the desense and IMD that
can cause.

Because these radios are old, and device characteristics were
much more variable when they were built than today, I'd suggest
the only way you can know if your particular receiver can be
helped by your particular preamp is to test it. A SINAD measurement
will tell the tale. You don't care if a preamp raises limiter
current, you do care that it allows a better SNR of the demodulated
baseband signal.

Gary
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es
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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:03 1996
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From: Clif <[e-mail]>
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L. Page wrote:

KEEP THIS CRAP OUT OF HERE!!!!!

CLIF


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From: [e-mail] (Adi Linden)
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Subject: Need IP and domain for TCP/IP
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I am working on setting up a TNOS node and Internet gateway in
Ontario.  Where can I get an IP address for my system?

Thanks,
- Adi - VA3ADI - [e-mail] -


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:05 1996
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From: Bob Nielsen <[e-mail]>
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Adi Linden wrote:
>
> I am working on setting up a TNOS node and Internet gateway in
> Ontario.  Where can I get an IP address for my system?

Adi,

You need to contact Barry McLarnon, ve3jf.  Try
[e-mail].


73, Bob

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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (TIAGO RAMOS)
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Subject: Need PCB design for a modem > 19.2K PLEASE
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I am looking for PCB designs for packet modems.
i looking for:
        GRAPES
        PI2 (TNC)
        G3RUH
PLEASE if you have this or know where to find please tell me.
Thankz in advance



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alexander Ackermann)
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Subject: Net Node EPROM for TNC-2C
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Hello to All,

I've heard that there exists an EPROM for TNC-2C which contains Net-Node
Software which makes it possible to build DIGIS with TNC and Transceiver
only.
Can anybody tell me from where to get such an EPROM or, much preferably,
from where one can download the contents of than EPROM ?
If YES, is there also a manual for that Software ?

Greetings

Alexander Ackermann


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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
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Subject: Re: Net Node EPROM for TNC-2C
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In <588iq4$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Alexander Acker
mann) writes:

>I've heard that there exists an EPROM for TNC-2C which contains Net-Node
>Software which makes it possible to build DIGIS with TNC and Transceiver
>only.
>Can anybody tell me from where to get such an EPROM or, much preferably,
>from where one can download the contents of than EPROM ?
>If YES, is there also a manual for that Software ?

This is more or less something from the past.
It once worked, but today's nodes are usually too heavily loaded for
that software to perform well.
Now, other systems are used, including PC's running special software.

You may still find the old TNC EPROM code on the NORD><LINK site:
http://deister.aball.de/~pg/nordlink/

Rob
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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Novak)
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Check out http://www.dxer.com



Bob Novak
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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:10 1996
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From: Ron Stordahl <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Newbie Q: radio & modem?
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For a remote node a TNC is preferred to a PC.  We have a number of sites
up here which are difficult to get to in the winter.  Another remote
node in the network is solar powered, there is another compelling reason
to use a stand alone low current TNC.

TNC's are not obsolete!

Ron


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:12 1996
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From: Ted Yamada <[e-mail]>
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Ron Stordahl wrote:
>
> For a remote node a TNC is preferred to a PC.  We have a number of sites
> up here which are difficult to get to in the winter.  Another remote
> node in the network is solar powered, there is another compelling reason
> to use a stand alone low current TNC.
>
> TNC's are not obsolete!
>
> Ron

Hi Mike,
Although I have never tried experimenting with the baycom
modem, it looks tricky to experiment with. With a
TNC you can run many powerful terminal programs which
have scripting languages capable of automating many
tasks.

Stand alone(mobile) GPS trackers for APRS may also be messy
with the baycom, you'll need to keep a PC with you
where ever you go. (The GPS functions in the TNCs
are features I use often.)
TNCs as Ron mentioned, are a real plus if your running on
battery/solar/intermittant power.

But if you're running packet from home, and power
or experimentation, or portability, and where access to
the site are not issues, they seem great.
The Baycom was basically designed for a different type of use
thus having different strengths than TNCs.

I recommend picking the one best for your use and budget.

Ted...
(KJ6ZJ)


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Newbie Q: radio & modem?
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>For a remote node a TNC is preferred to a PC.  We have a number of sites
>up here which are difficult to get to in the winter.  Another remote
>node in the network is solar powered, there is another compelling reason
>to use a stand alone low current TNC.

We also have sites which are difficult to access, summer or winter.
Having the ability to upload new code to them over the network and
restart them is a major plus we wouldn't have with an ordinary TNC.

Solar power is a better argument, if you're using a micropower TNC.
There are low power PCs now (palmtop and embedded processing types)
which draw about the same power as a micropower TNC (less than an
ordinary TNC2), but they usually don't support ISA slots and often
require considerable modification to allow external DMA. So the TNC
remains a viable off the shelf solution for low speeds in this special
case. But at reasonable speeds, the micropower TNC can't keep up, so
it is still non-viable. So you just put up another solar panel and
use a "green" PC.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:14 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2  AX.25 DRIVER ?
Date: 3 Dec 1996 01:16:04 GMT
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In <[e-mail]>, "Eric A. Cottrell" <[e-mail]> writes:
>Jens David DG1KJD wrote:
>> I'd continue development on it if there was more interest in it.
>
>I am interested.
>
>73 Eric WB1HBU  [e-mail]
>-- Posted using Netscape for OS/2 Beta 2 Yeah!!!!  ----


I'm interested too.

                       Jim W9LZ


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dale Heatherington)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2  AX.25 DRIVER ?
Date: 4 Dec 1996 02:27:08 GMT
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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Markus Baertschi) write
s:
>
>  David,
>
>  I'm interested as well.


I've been interested for about 3 years!  First I wrote a PI card driver
for OS/2 so JNOS could operate as an AX25 router for OS/2s tcpip.
I need 2 ethernet cards in the computer to allow OS/2 and JNOS to
communicate but it does work.

I really want to get an AX25 NDIS PI card driver so I can ditch JNOS.
I've receintly obtained a Developers Connection CD for LAN systems
which has a sample NDIS driver on it.  It looks very complex.  The next step
is to put AX25 and NDIS with the PI card driver.  This isn't going to be easy.

Anyone familier with OS/2 NDIS drivers???  Anyone else want to write it?

Dale Heatherington WA4DSY
http://www.wa4dsy.radio.org
[e-mail]




>
>  73 Markus    HB9VCD
>
>[e-mail] (Jens David DG1KJD) wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>
>>In <[e-mail]>, Ken Morris <[e-mail]> write
s:
>>>As with ETHERAX25 program, this allows to trick DOS TCP/IP programs
>>>to believe it is talking to LAN card, so that Internet programs
>>>can be used on amateur radio. Has anyone seen a program to allow
>>>the same for OS/2 inbuilt TCP/IP to talk on ax.25 network ?
>
>>Yep, I was working on it, but I stopped development some month ago because t
here
>>seemed to be no real interest in it.
>>However, it already works but is a little unstable and wastes a lot of CPU p
ower.
>>It is called "WAMPlus" (derived from WAMPES bye DK5SG/KA9Q) and was ported f
rom
>>the linux version.
>>It is easy-to-use and provides a lot of advanced features like AX25 callsign
 filter,
>>KISS multiport support, flexnet support, netrom support, "autorouter" and so
 on.
>
>>I'd continue development on it if there was more interest in it.
>
>>>
>>>So in short, I am looking for AX.25 driver for OS/2. OS/2 has been
>>>very good (Merlin Version 4 even better), so would like to use
>>>more of it's inbuilt features.
>>>
>>>
>>>73's
>>>Ken VK4KWM
>
>>73 + 55
>>   Jens
>
>>---- 73 + 55 ------------------ Jens David, DG1KJD -------------------------
---
>>AMPRnet+global: [e-mail] -- DieBug: dg1kjd@db0ach.#nrw.deu
.eu
>>>>>            Tel./Fax/Dial-in V32bis,V42bis: [phone]
<<<
>><<<       dg1kjd-svr.ampr.org [44.130.21.60] AX25: DG1KJD via DB0ME
>>>
>
>
>



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From: [e-mail] (Mike)
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Eric A. Cottrell ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Jens David DG1KJD wrote:
: > I'd continue development on it if there was more interest in it.
:
: I am interested.
:
: 73 Eric WB1HBU  [e-mail]
: -- Posted using Netscape for OS/2 Beta 2 Yeah!!!!  ----
Not to be just another "me too" or anything, but alas I am also interested
now just having purchased Warp v3 and am hooked on it.

TTYL,
Mike
KB8WPE

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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dick Mock)
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Subject: Our Purpose: Amateur Radio
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On 29 Nov 1996 [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:
>You seem determined to downgrade our purpose of advancing the SOTA,
>first with arguments for public service and goodwill, and now with
>self-training. [....]

Not at all, Gary!  Advancing the state of the art (SOTA) is a high
purpose, maybe the highest for hams.  It's the thing we as hams WANT
to be known for more than anything else.  Thousands of us like to try.

We tinker on this and that and have a lot of fun and learn a lot of
things.  But it's the very rare ham who actually comes up with
something
beyond the SOTA and who documents it well enough for it to become part

of the SOTA.

And I applaud your comments about getting the rule changes to allow
true frontier work.  Moving in that direction will do much to improve
our ability to push the SOTA. Such rule adjustment, by the way,
appears
to be part of the "purpose" stated in Part 97.1(c).  How's that for
optimism? ;)

Let me try again to summarize....  All the purposes in Part 97.1 are
still relevant, though some are becoming less relevant and are
unconvincing.  All are things we can POTENTIALLY make happen as
individual hams.  But the only thing we can CERTAINLY make happen
as individuals is the development of our own personal technical
skills,
thus increasing the pool of technical personnel.

I'm just trying to put these into a credible perspective.  We're more
likely to be successful with the political rule-making process you
cite,
if we are completely credible.

I don't call this pessimism.

Dick - W7DHS

[e-mail] /////////////////////////////////////////////////



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:19 1996
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After being on the receiving end of a fake message, why don't packet
bbs's require passwords?  I'm sure that using some of the higher ASCII
characters would make it fairly secure.

George N7BUI


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From: Gary Tait <[e-mail]>
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On 3 Dec 1996, au wrote:

#After being on the receiving end of a fake message, why don't packet
#bbs's require passwords?  I'm sure that using some of the higher ASCII
#characters would make it fairly secure.
#
#George N7BUI
#
It is a matter of trust, that a ham won't do anything he/she shouldn't
be doing.


Gary Tait , VE3VBF
- Please do not quote US prices, they are no good to me ,here in Canada -
- If you must quote prices , please quote prices from dealers in Central-
- to Western Ontario, Canada . (not Norther Ontario)



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: RE: Packet BBS's...Why no passwords?
Date: Tue,  3 Dec 1996 23:31:00 GMT
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>>Packet BBS's...Why no passwords?

What would be the need for passwords? The Packet BBSs I've encountered
(and run) haven't offered anything but the most public and pertinent of
files....


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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Packet BBS's...Why no passwords?
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In article <58040o$[e-mail]> [e-mail](au) writes:
>After being on the receiving end of a fake message, why don't packet
>bbs's require passwords?  I'm sure that using some of the higher ASCII
>characters would make it fairly secure.
>
>George N7BUI

George, everything you send to the BBS is in the clear. Any station
monitoring can copy a password and later spoof the BBS with it. So
passwords are basically useless.

There are other schemes which can be used over an unsecure channel.
The most popular is the challenge-response system. The BBS sends you
a challenge, and you respond based on information that only you and
the BBS sysop know. The same challenge is never repeated twice, so
eavesdroppers don't gain any advantage from copying your response
to the challenge. This is pretty secure, but it requires off-line
coordination with the sysop (who must be a trusted person because
*he* can forge messages from you). Once you are logged in, another
user can also "capture" the BBS by using a stronger signal, and
faking your ID in his packets. Thus he can still corrupt your
messages, but at least you should notice this is happening.

But the better way may be to digitally sign your messages with
a PGP authenticator. No one can forge this. It identifies you
uniquely, and also serves as a checksum to the message so anyone
can tell if the message has been altered after you sent it.

Gary
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es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:23 1996
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From: "Steve Wolf" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Packet BBS's...Why no passwords?
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> > bbs's require passwords?  I'm sure that using some of the higher ASCII
> > characters would make it fairly secure.
>
> Nope, anything you send over packet can be copied, doesn't matter if it's
> ascii or encrypted (which isn't legal), so it's not possible, but yes, if
> you want passwords that's doable, just not workable.

This is not true.  BBS systems use an ASCII file.  It can be 10 bytes
or 10k bytes in length.  The BBS sends a series of numbers to the
person checking in.  That person sends the character that corresponds
to the number sent.

Obviously the longer the file, the longer the protection will hold up.
In all cases the password files should be changed now and again.
I can't imagine someone carefully copying down password strings
but ...

--
73,
Steve
        Amateur Radio:          no8m@no8m.#neoh.oh.usa.na
        Internet:                       [e-mail]
        MSYS Mail List:         [e-mail] ("info" for title)



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:24 1996
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From: "Steve Wolf" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Packet BBS's...Why no passwords?
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> After being on the receiving end of a fake message, why don't packet
> bbs's require passwords?  I'm sure that using some of the higher ASCII
> characters would make it fairly secure.

MSYS has the provision to password user access based on
a text file supplied by the user.  There are a number of
utilities to access this file and allow the user to easily find
and send the password.

I have a number of users who utilize this feature due to the
same types of problems.  I use it on check-ins using my
callsign.

--
73,
Steve
        Amateur Radio:          no8m@no8m.#neoh.oh.usa.na
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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:25 1996
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From: Jeff Chapman <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Packet BBS's...Why no passwords?
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>
> au wrote:
> >
> > After being on the receiving end of a fake message, why don't packet
> > bbs's require passwords?  I'm sure that using some of the higher ASCII
> > characters would make it fairly secure.
> >
> > George N7BUI

I'm curious as to what password access to a bbs or pbbs has to
do with receiving a fake message.  ???  Jeff  wa3riz


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Subject: Re: Packet BBS's...Why no passwords?
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In <[e-mail]> Jeff Chapman <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
>>
>> au wrote:
>> >
>> > After being on the receiving end of a fake message, why don't
packet
>> > bbs's require passwords?  I'm sure that using some of the higher
ASCII
>> > characters would make it fairly secure.
>> >
>> > George N7BUI
>
>I'm curious as to what password access to a bbs or pbbs has to
>do with receiving a fake message.  ???  Jeff  wa3riz

I thought I had made it quite obvious Jeff.  A person definitely copied
my call sign when I had logged onto a local BBS and then decided to
raise a little hell on my behalf.  If the BBS had had a password system
in place, this probably wouldn't have happened.

George N7BUI



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Timothy J Salo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet BBS's...Why no passwords?
Date: 7 Dec 1996 00:24:58 -0600
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>       [...]
>There are other schemes which can be used over an unsecure channel.
>The most popular is the challenge-response system. ...

For a nice implementation, see S-Key at:

        ftp://ftp.bellcore.com/pub/nmh

and the paper at:

        ftp://ftp.bellcore.com/pub/nmh/docs/ISOC.symp.ps

There is a recent RFC (or maybe a couple) on this topic, although I don't
have the reference at my fingertips.  I can look it up, if anyone is
really interested.

> ...  Once you are logged in, another
>user can also "capture" the BBS by using a stronger signal, and
>faking your ID in his packets. Thus he can still corrupt your
>messages, but at least you should notice this is happening.

True.  Or perhaps even capture your session, given FM "capture"
effect.  Someone with better radio background than mine can think
about this.

>But the better way may be to digitally sign your messages with
>a PGP authenticator. No one can forge this. It identifies you
>uniquely, and also serves as a checksum to the message so anyone
>can tell if the message has been altered after you sent it.

Secure distribution of public keys can still be an issue, but
digital signatures are a very powerful method of authenticating
the originator.

Tim Salo
KI0EQ
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
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Subject: Re: Packet BBS's...Why no passwords?
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Clint Bradford) wr
ites:


>>>Packet BBS's...Why no passwords?

>What would be the need for passwords? The Packet BBSs I've encountered
>(and run) haven't offered anything but the most public and pertinent of
>files....

Passwords for packet BBSes are usually not suggested to offer access
control to your files (that would be illegal in many countries anyway),
but to offer protection against callsign misuse.
In the current unprotected BBS system, anyone can set his MYCALL to
your callsign and upload offending messages, virii, etc.  Some people
have already experienced this. :-(

Rob
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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:29 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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In article <58b2jq$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Timothy
J Salo) writes:

>> ...  Once you are logged in, another
>>user can also "capture" the BBS by using a stronger signal, and
>>faking your ID in his packets. Thus he can still corrupt your
>>messages, but at least you should notice this is happening.
>
>True.  Or perhaps even capture your session, given FM "capture"
>effect.  Someone with better radio background than mine can think
>about this.
>
>>But the better way may be to digitally sign your messages with
>>a PGP authenticator. No one can forge this. It identifies you
>>uniquely, and also serves as a checksum to the message so anyone
>>can tell if the message has been altered after you sent it.
>
>Secure distribution of public keys can still be an issue, but
>digital signatures are a very powerful method of authenticating
>the originator.

Actually, both on packet and its various flavors like tcp/ip, the tnc or
its substitute would have to believe it was connected before it could be
used to override another station's signal.  It's not impossible, it's even
possible to produce a program to do so, but most imposter stations do so,
because it's so easy to change the mycall parameters.  Of course, I also
point out that every government that I know of, frowns on such behavior by
its licensees, and in the U.S., a ham is probably very likely to lose his
or license for sending false signals if identified.  Yes, bootlegging
happens, but I would suggest that it's not quite as common or easy to do
with even simple password measures.  Nothing is foolproof except not
sending out info, but digital signatures are indeed difficult to duplicate


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From: [e-mail] (JACK CLARKE)
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Does anyone have a detailed packet list for Arizona similar to the
one recently posted for North Carolina.  Please post here.  I'm
sure lots of people would appreciate it.


Jack    VE3EED/W7
Mesa, AZ
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From: [e-mail] (Paul Zander)
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Subject: Re: Packet on low-frequencies possible?
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In addition to packet, on HF there are a variety of related modes:
traditional RTTY encoding with computers instead of machines, AMTOR,
PACTOR, CLOVER, and some others.

On HF where fading and QRM are more likely than on VHF/UHF expecting a
packet of 100 chars to be received w/o error and retry the whole packet
as needed makes the through put very slow.  The other modes have various
ways of dealing with conditions.  RTTY expects the operator to read the messag
e
and if it doesn't make sense, ask the other op for a repeat.  The others
have a variety of automatic error detect and correct mechanisms.

[e-mail] wrote:
: Antwan wrote:
: >
: > Hi all,
: >
: > I was wondering if packet-radio can be used on 20/40/80 meter bands.
: > Specifically I am interested in the maximum baudrate that can be used (120
0-56
: > k) on these low frequencies. Anyone has an idea? Is there anything I can r
ead
: > on this subject?
: >
: > Thanks in advance, Antwan Reijnen, [e-mail]
: ---
: Packet is commonly used on these band, 300 baud is the maximum allowed
: by the FCC for US hams.  There is a lot of bbs bulletin forwarding going
: on in the HF bands, QSOs are frustrating due to slow speeds and packet
: collisions causing numerous retries.
: There are several books available through the ARRL on the subject,
: mostly entry level.  The Radio Amateurs Handbook by the ARRL also covers
: packet.  You probably have similar books by the Dutch equivilant of the
: Amateur Radio Relay League.  Perhaps in the public library.
: 73 Gene WA4WBI


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From: Jim Devenport <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Packet software for Windows 95?
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 09:23:27 -0700
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Paolo Valente wrote:
>
> Can anybody tell me where I can download a good well tested packet
> software for Windows 95?
<snip>
Also, BAYCOM versions 1.4 and 1.5 run quite well as windows in win'95.

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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth)
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Subject: Re: Packet software for Windows 95?
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On Mon, 02 Dec 1996 17:52:36 GMT, [e-mail] (Paolo Valente ) wrote:

>Can anybody tell me where I can download a good well tested packet
>software for Windows 95?
>
The built in tcp/ip stack seems to work moderately well. At least it seems to
over any practical links of 9600 baud and up. If your just farting around with
old 1200 baud technology and logging into ancient bbses, just use any dumb
terminal program.
-be


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pete)
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Subject: Re: Packet software for Windows 95?
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On Mon, 02 Dec 1996 17:52:36 GMT, [e-mail] (Paolo Valente )
wrote:

>Can anybody tell me where I can download a good well tested packet
>software for Windows 95?
>
>Any info is appreciated!
>
>E-Mail: [e-mail]   or post a follow up message.
>
>Thank you and 73.
>
>Paolo
>KC5VPV

Grab yourself a copy of Winpack version 6.10 from here:

www.acay.com.au/~vk2yx/winpack.html

Its a GREAT package that works fine under Windows xxx

Cheers..Peter..vk2cpi


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From: [e-mail] (G.R. "Scott" Cundiff)
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Subject: Re: Packet software for Windows 95?
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 [e-mail] (Paolo Valente ) wrote:
:
:>Can anybody tell me where I can download a good well tested packet
:>software for Windows 95?


Paolo, I don't know whether you are aware of it or not, but most DOS programs
run very well under WIN95.  I use KaGold here, and am very pleased with it's
performance with WIN95.

Whether you are interested in KaGold or not, you might want to check out their

web page, where they describe setting up their program (or any other DOS
program, for that matter) for WIN95.  It is at:
http://www.interflex.com/

Good luck!

--Scott


G.R. "Scott" Cundiff
Borger, Texas
email: [e-mail]
amateur radio: N5ASD@N5ASD.#WTX.TX.USA.NOAM


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:36 1996
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From: Chuck Harrington <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Packet software for Windows 95?
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 00:27:26 -0500
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Paolo Valente wrote:
>
> Can anybody tell me where I can download a good well tested packet
> software for Windows 95?
>

Try Visual PacketPeT! Web address below!

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Visit WEB SIGHT  - http://www.gate.net/~paketpet
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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Terry Page)
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Subject: Re: Packet software for Windows 95?
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Any that handle TCP/IP ??



Terry Page - Sydney, Australia
Internet      - [e-mail]
Amprnet     - [e-mail] [44.136.11.42]


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:38 1996
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In article <[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] (Pete) wrote:
>
> On Wed, 04 Dec 1996 11:59:17 GMT, [e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth)
> wrote:
****
****stuff Deleted
****
> The only problem with WIN95 is setting up the STUPID routing tables !!
>It doesn't like subnet masks of 44.255.255.255.  I had to end up

That's probably because 44.255.255.255 is not a valid subnet
mask.  Your subnet mask in most cases should simply be
255.255.255.0 in most AMPRnet configurations.  If your really
interested in what subnet masks do and how they are applied
I suggest a good TCPIP text.

>setting up a little DOS batch file to update the routing table every
>time I booted the machine.  At least on NT workstation, you can
>PERMANENTLY add a route.
>

--Ron Wright, KA5LUG

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From: [e-mail] (Pete)
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Subject: Re: Packet software for Windows 95?
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On Mon, 09 Dec 1996 15:21:06 -0600, [e-mail] wrote:


>That's probably because 44.255.255.255 is not a valid subnet
>mask.  Your subnet mask in most cases should simply be
>255.255.255.0 in most AMPRnet configurations.  If your really
>interested in what subnet masks do and how they are applied
>I suggest a good TCPIP text.
>

>
>--Ron Wright, KA5LUG
>
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ROn

I'm interested in what subnet you would then use here ?  We have a
wfw3.11 machine, ip 44.136.15.15 that connets to another NOS box,
gateway 44.136.15.14.   If we had a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0,
EVERYTHING that happens on the subnet would then go via the gateway
box.  What the mask of 44.255.255.255 does is only send 44.xx.xx.xx
stuff to the gateway, the rest of the stuff then stays on the loacl
network.

When we had 255.255.255.0, every bit of JUNK that comes out of wfw3.11
goes out onto RF.  They guy that I was with knows his TCP/IP stuff
pretty good BUT we're always welcome to suggestions !!

Cheers..Pete..vk2yx


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From: [e-mail] (Mark Bramwell)
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Subject: Re: Packet software for Windows 95?
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>I'm interested in what subnet you would then use here ?  We have a
>wfw3.11 machine, ip 44.136.15.15 that connets to another NOS box,
>gateway 44.136.15.14.   If we had a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0,
>EVERYTHING that happens on the subnet would then go via the gateway
>box.  What the mask of 44.255.255.255 does is only send 44.xx.xx.xx
>stuff to the gateway, the rest of the stuff then stays on the loacl
>network.

>When we had 255.255.255.0, every bit of JUNK that comes out of wfw3.11
>goes out onto RF.  They guy that I was with knows his TCP/IP stuff
>pretty good BUT we're always welcome to suggestions !!

>Cheers..Pete..vk2yx


Not true,  255.255.255.0 is the proper subnet for the above example.

Only addresses that do NOT exist on the subnet 44.136.15 will go through the
gateway.  14 & 15 are both on the same network.

The '255' is a wild card of sorts.  Since we have 3 '255's, anything that has
the same first three parts is considered local.


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On Sun, 01 Dec 1996 18:21:45 -0600, David A. Russell <[e-mail]> wr
ote:
 :
 : Now the tricky part is adding the packet-radio network (which is more
 : important than the uucp network right now).  My understanding of
 : packet-radio is that it has it's own mail protocals and the format of
 : the send-to field is [e-mail] (or very
 : similair).  Now I looked at one such gateway and he had it set up to
 : have a callsign for any user on the internet that wanted to recieve mail
 : from the packet-radio network.  They had a user like
 : [e-mail] mapped to [e-mail].
 : Is this because packet-radio mail will croke with callsigns that are
 : longer than a certain limit and don't like anything except standard
 : chars and nums?  Or is just because of the legal restrictions?  If it's

The "username" in the amateur bbs network is a case-insensitive 6
character alphanumeric, typically an amateur callsign.  This is an
artifact of the 6.5 character AX.25 callsign fields.

 : because of the legal restrictions could I implement something like
 : user%inet.machine@wormhole and look up to see if that machine is in a
 : valid place to send without breaking laws (done either by looking up
 : it's location with whois or somethin or using a file containing
 : 'trusted' machines).  From the internet side I'm sure I can do something
 : like callsigne%packer.radio.machine@wormhole to send a message on the
 : packet radio network from the internet.   Again is this a good method to
 : do this?  Any suggestions?  And again how would I rewrite the headers to
 : properly do stuff liek callsign%packet.radio.machine@wormhole and the
 : other way if it's possible.

This is complicated by the reality that the amateur equivalent of a
"domain name" (the %packet.radio.machine) is only gauranteed to the
lowest level domain, that is the first callsign after the @.
Theoretically the "domain name" should give you some clues but the sad
fact is there are arguments and implemented inconsistencies in the top
level domains (NA vs. NOAM) and an unpredictable number of
intermediate names after the user's machine.

Probably the only reliable way to handle mapping is on a user@machine,
with a mapping of every possible machine to the "domain name" that
machine uses.

 : Or am I just being a fool and should I just allow access into the
 : machine via packet-radio but have the mail really only on the internet?
 : So you can login to it like a packet-radio bbs but when you send mail
 : it's to the internet and the internet can send to you but no real mail
 : routing.

This is what I do with pickle.n2wx.ampr.org.  It's a lot simpler.   If
you go the other route enter it knowing that the amateur naming scheme
is inherently incompatible with internet naming, and there'll be a lot
of work trying to reconcile the two.

You might want to check www.lantz.com and the TNOS package which does
blend the two.  I'm not entirely sure how Brian overcame the problems.

--
Howard Goldstein <[e-mail]>


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From: [e-mail] (Alan R Goodwin)
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Had a query fm a friend of mine (XE2UR) re updating PK232 MBX.
Can anyone help me out on what is involved.
Tks VE1AJX AL


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Alan R Goodwin ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Had a query fm a friend of mine (XE2UR) re updating PK232 MBX.
: Can anyone help me out on what is involved.
: Tks VE1AJX AL


: --
You will have to buy a new chip from A.E.A. It costs about $ 75 U.S. I
installed mine with no problems. You may have to hurry because A.E.A. is
supposed to be going out of business very soon...

Hope this helps,

Gilbert VE6GES
 --
                 [e-mail]



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From: Nick Button <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]>
   Martin Ripkee <[e-mail]> writes:
> Using Paket 5.1 by Tony Lonsdale looking for up date info


6.1 is the current version.

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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:48 1996
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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>In <57d239$2jt2$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>>Is anybody else using PaKet 6.1? I haven't seen any updates lately. I use it
 in a
>>WIN-OS2 session with OS/2 and it's pretty slick. It is spinning away in it's
 own
>>session as I'm on the 'net' and connected to another communications program
>>concurrently. Anyway, if there is any new version or news, I'd like to hear
about
>>it.
>>
>>                                                     Thanks - Jim WD9AHF
>
>I am also using Paket 6.1 under OS/2, only in a DOS session window, while
>typing this note dialed into my ISP over a phone line. Isn't TRUE multitaskin
g
>great?
>
>No updates to Paket 6.1 that I am aware off.
>
>I am thinking about switching my packet setup over to an APRS beacon -
>digipeater though.
>
>
>73
>John
>
>* John  KF4ERV  [e-mail]  Powered by OS/2 Warp.              *
>* Defenselessness is a crime which generates it's own punishment.   *
>* The four boxes of Freedom: Soap, Ballot, Jury, and Ammo.           *
>* Those who trade Freedom for Security have neither. - B. Franklin    *
>

 Thanks John,
 Yep, I was just checking. This 6.1 version has run under 2.1, 2.11, Warp,
 Warp Connect, and now Merlin, without a hitch. Yes, TRUE multitasking
 is terrific. I'm watching some of the locals yacking on packet on Com3,
 I'm here on Com2 at 14.4, connected to a host system at 28.8 on Com1,
 and developing a VBasic 4.0 doodad as another task. By the way, the
 included Voice Recognition command software just blows 'em away when
 they see it. "Computer!", "Ready!". I've got to do some serious playing
 with that. See Ya.
                                                 Jim ex WD9AHF now W9LZ


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Hi All

Been using a pk232mbx for a while running WINPACK.

Now I would like to run the likes of SUPERPACKET which uses TFPCX style
software.  I used to run this setup with a BAYCOM board.

So what's the problem.....  Well I cannot get the tnc to go into KISS or
HOST mode.  I have tried KISS ON etc.

The tnc has firmware version 7 installed.

So any help would be appreciated.
--
Ian Wilson  GM1XOG @GB7SAN.#78.GBR.EU


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From: "Dhr. Visser" <[e-mail]>
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Can anybody help me with the following:

Am using JVFAX here,but can only recieve pictures not
transmitting..........
Have no problems in PACTOR,RTTY,CW and PACTOR with the PK900 in
SP or XPWIN software.
Greetings
David


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From: [e-mail] (Christoph Nadig)
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Subject: Problems with SPIRIT-2 TNC
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Hi,

I recently bought two Spirit-2 Tnc, Model Backbone (20MHz) from Paccom. They
came with a small Monitor Test program burned into the EPROMS.
Neither TNC run eith this Monitor program, the STA and CON LED's were slowly
blinking randomly and on the TXD line of the RS-232 to the computer was a
continouing signal, never stopping. It seemed to be just a simple clock.

Then I tried it with the TAPR TNC-2 software version 1.1.8. The TNC's showed
the very same behavior.
The TNC's came with 70ns EPROM although there was dtated in the manual that
the backbone model needs 55ns. May this be the reason?

As both TNCs behave the same way I don't think it's a hardware damage.

Any Ideas?

Thanks a lot, Chris (HB9ZHK)
--
--
[e-mail]


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From: Rob Dover <[e-mail]>
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Christoph.
I also have 2 of these things although not with the same problem as
you. Mine tend to scramble the THENET callsigns randomly. I had to
cripple them back to 10 MHz to get mine to work properly.
Good luck with getting support from Paccomm too! I have phoned and
e-mailed many times over the last several months with no luck. I did
get one reply from Gwyn (the owner?) assuring me that he would look
into it, but nary a word since.
Pretty pathetic if you ask me!
Good luck 73 -Rob-
ve7eje@ve7rxd.#scbc.bc.can.noam

Christoph Nadig wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I recently bought two Spirit-2 Tnc, Model Backbone (20MHz) from Paccom. They
> came with a small Monitor Test program burned into the EPROMS.
> Neither TNC run eith this Monitor program, the STA and CON LED's were slowly
> blinking randomly and on the TXD line of the RS-232 to the computer was a
> continouing signal, never stopping. It seemed to be just a simple clock.
>
> Then I tried it with the TAPR TNC-2 software version 1.1.8. The TNC's showed
> the very same behavior.
> The TNC's came with 70ns EPROM although there was dtated in the manual that
> the backbone model needs 55ns. May this be the reason?
>
> As both TNCs behave the same way I don't think it's a hardware damage.
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> Thanks a lot, Chris (HB9ZHK)
> --
> --
> [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (wb6siv)
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Subject: Product Review of the TimeWave DSP-9+
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This this and many other ham radio articles at www.sarrio.com
--
The Raymond Sarrio Co. a full feature Ham Radio Storefront and web site develo
per. Located at http://www.sarrio.com.

In association with Brillar Enterprises http://win-win.com/brillar provider of
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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:55 1996
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From: "Erik Skovgaard" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Product Review of the TimeWave DSP-9+
Date: 9 Dec 1996 04:33:48 GMT
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The quality of a DSP depends on what you are going to use it for.  For CW,
only, I'd probably go with a DSP-59 since it allows you to adjust both
upper and lower cutoff frequency, however, for SSB the DSP-9+ is a vast
step above no DSP, but the best I have ever tried is the JPS NIR-12.  It
seems to be able to elimiate most of the noise, you find around a big city.

Still, a good narrow IF filter is the best.  THEN you can add audio DSP.

73 de VE7MDL                    ....Erik.


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> In association with Brillar Enterprises http://win-win.com/brillar
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From: [e-mail] (Alex Evonosky)
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Subject: PTC-II??
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        Anybody familair with the PacCom PTC-II DSP unit?
any pro's, cons??
Please let me know.  Thank You.

Best 73,
de KB4LBX/Alex
---------
Alex F. Evonosky, KB4LBX   OSCAR 10 Mode B,J,L
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Subject: Re: PTC-II??
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Alex Evonosky wrote:
>
>         Anybody familair with the PacCom PTC-II DSP unit?
> any pro's, cons??
> Please let me know.  Thank You.
>
> Best 73,
> de KB4LBX/Alex
> ---------
> Alex F. Evonosky, KB4LBX   OSCAR 10 Mode B,J,L
> Alpharetta, Ga             Packet LAN 145.07MHz
> WAS WAC ARRL AMSAT         ATV 1.2GHz/421.25MHz
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>
> The PTC-II is a first class unit from either PacComm or SCS. Check out
the SCS page at http:\www.scs-ptc.com



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:58 1996
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From: Bob Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: PTC-II??
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Gary Coffman wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Alex E
vonosky) writes:
> >       Anybody familair with the PacCom PTC-II DSP unit?
> >any pro's, cons??
> >Please let me know.  Thank You.
>
> It is the same unit sold directly by SCS. It is a very high performance
> HF system. But it has a very high performance price too. It works as
> well as people are saying that it does, but there aren't many of them
> in amateur hands (mainly I'd suggest because of the sticker shock).
> There are something like 250 amateurs in the world who have them last
> I heard. (A good proportion of them are reportedly going to non-amateur
> customers.)
>
> I had a chance to use one for a couple of weeks, and I was very impressed.
> But I chose to buy the HAL P-38 instead. Clover allows quasi-duplex, which
> is useful to me because of a particular application I have, while PACTOR II
> doesn't. There are a good number of P-38s already in amateur hands (probably
> because of the much lower price, and HAL's running a Christmas special right
> now with a substantial discount off what I paid). And Clover performance is
> very good under most conditions, even if it is not equal to PACTOR II.
>
> But if quasi-duplex isn't important to you, the sticker shock doesn't
> give you heart failure, and you'll be content to mostly use its lesser
> modes (which it also does very well) rather than PACTOR II (due to the
> relative lack of amateurs using that), then by all means get the PTC-II.
> It is the most advanced HF digital system currently on the market.
>
> If it also had Clover and GTOR support, I'd swallow my discomfort
> with the price and buy one too. According to recent information,
> the PTC-II now has a generic audio DSP filtering capability in
> addition to its uses for digital data, so it can displace another
> box in the clutter on the desk. And packet capability is a promised
> future add-on (though that isn't very exciting to me, I've already
> got packet well covered).
>
> It is *rumored* that it *will* support Clover in the future, and it
> may even support GTOR in the future, but neither of those are currently
> scheduled upgrades as far as I know. I've also heard rumors about a price
> reduction in the works, but who knows if that will happen or not. I'm
> watching it with interest, but I'm holding onto my money for a while to
> see if any of the rumored changes occur. Meanwhile the P-38 stays busy.
>
> (Note, the firmware for both units is easily field upgradable, so I
> wouldn't be too concerned about rapid obsolescence. Both SCS and HAL
> have recently released free upgrades. I assume the SCS upgrade was
> the addition of the generic audio DSP functions, and I know the
> P-38 upgrade fixed some serious bugs in PACTOR I operation.)
>
> Gary
> --
> Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
> Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp addre
sses
> 534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
> Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

The PTC-II packet boards are currently available at SCS.



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:47:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: PTC-II??
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Alex Evo
nosky) writes:
>       Anybody familair with the PacCom PTC-II DSP unit?
>any pro's, cons??
>Please let me know.  Thank You.

It is the same unit sold directly by SCS. It is a very high performance
HF system. But it has a very high performance price too. It works as
well as people are saying that it does, but there aren't many of them
in amateur hands (mainly I'd suggest because of the sticker shock).
There are something like 250 amateurs in the world who have them last
I heard. (A good proportion of them are reportedly going to non-amateur
customers.)

I had a chance to use one for a couple of weeks, and I was very impressed.
But I chose to buy the HAL P-38 instead. Clover allows quasi-duplex, which
is useful to me because of a particular application I have, while PACTOR II
doesn't. There are a good number of P-38s already in amateur hands (probably
because of the much lower price, and HAL's running a Christmas special right
now with a substantial discount off what I paid). And Clover performance is
very good under most conditions, even if it is not equal to PACTOR II.

But if quasi-duplex isn't important to you, the sticker shock doesn't
give you heart failure, and you'll be content to mostly use its lesser
modes (which it also does very well) rather than PACTOR II (due to the
relative lack of amateurs using that), then by all means get the PTC-II.
It is the most advanced HF digital system currently on the market.

If it also had Clover and GTOR support, I'd swallow my discomfort
with the price and buy one too. According to recent information,
the PTC-II now has a generic audio DSP filtering capability in
addition to its uses for digital data, so it can displace another
box in the clutter on the desk. And packet capability is a promised
future add-on (though that isn't very exciting to me, I've already
got packet well covered).

It is *rumored* that it *will* support Clover in the future, and it
may even support GTOR in the future, but neither of those are currently
scheduled upgrades as far as I know. I've also heard rumors about a price
reduction in the works, but who knows if that will happen or not. I'm
watching it with interest, but I'm holding onto my money for a while to
see if any of the rumored changes occur. Meanwhile the P-38 stays busy.

(Note, the firmware for both units is easily field upgradable, so I
wouldn't be too concerned about rapid obsolescence. Both SCS and HAL
have recently released free upgrades. I assume the SCS upgrade was
the addition of the generic audio DSP functions, and I know the
P-38 upgrade fixed some serious bugs in PACTOR I operation.)

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:01 1996
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From: Bob Lewis <[e-mail]>
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Gary Coffman wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Alex E
vonosky) writes:
> >       Anybody familair with the PacCom PTC-II DSP unit?
> >any pro's, cons??
> >Please let me know.  Thank You.
>
> It is the same unit sold directly by SCS. It is a very high performance
> HF system. But it has a very high performance price too. It works as
> well as people are saying that it does, but there aren't many of them
> in amateur hands (mainly I'd suggest because of the sticker shock).
> There are something like 250 amateurs in the world who have them last
> I heard. (A good proportion of them are reportedly going to non-amateur
> customers.)
>
> I had a chance to use one for a couple of weeks, and I was very impressed.
> But I chose to buy the HAL P-38 instead. Clover allows quasi-duplex, which
> is useful to me because of a particular application I have, while PACTOR II
> doesn't. There are a good number of P-38s already in amateur hands (probably
> because of the much lower price, and HAL's running a Christmas special right
> now with a substantial discount off what I paid). And Clover performance is
> very good under most conditions, even if it is not equal to PACTOR II.
>
> But if quasi-duplex isn't important to you, the sticker shock doesn't
> give you heart failure, and you'll be content to mostly use its lesser
> modes (which it also does very well) rather than PACTOR II (due to the
> relative lack of amateurs using that), then by all means get the PTC-II.
> It is the most advanced HF digital system currently on the market.
>
> If it also had Clover and GTOR support, I'd swallow my discomfort
> with the price and buy one too. According to recent information,
> the PTC-II now has a generic audio DSP filtering capability in
> addition to its uses for digital data, so it can displace another
> box in the clutter on the desk. And packet capability is a promised
> future add-on (though that isn't very exciting to me, I've already
> got packet well covered).
>
> It is *rumored* that it *will* support Clover in the future, and it
> may even support GTOR in the future, but neither of those are currently
> scheduled upgrades as far as I know. I've also heard rumors about a price
> reduction in the works, but who knows if that will happen or not. I'm
> watching it with interest, but I'm holding onto my money for a while to
> see if any of the rumored changes occur. Meanwhile the P-38 stays busy.
>
> (Note, the firmware for both units is easily field upgradable, so I
> wouldn't be too concerned about rapid obsolescence. Both SCS and HAL
> have recently released free upgrades. I assume the SCS upgrade was
> the addition of the generic audio DSP functions, and I know the
> P-38 upgrade fixed some serious bugs in PACTOR I operation.)
>
> Gary
> --
> Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
> Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp addre
sses
> 534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
> Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

The PTC-II packet boards are currently available at SCS.



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:02 1996
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Subject: Reviews?  MFJ Data Radio
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Hello,

I wanted to know if anyone had any information or reviews on the MFJ
Data radio.  I am interested in having somthing for APRS tracking and to
leave up a perment Mailbox.  Please forward any information.

Thanks and 73,
Jon N2XFZ


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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: RE: Reviews?  MFJ Data Radio
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>>I wanted to know if anyone had any information or reviews on the MFJ
>>Data radio.


From QST for April, 1996 :
MFJ-8621 Packet-Only Data Radio (Ford): Apr, 73


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Jon,

I have used it on a 9600 Baud link for my BBS.  It worked great - much
better than my modified Alinco DR-1200.  The low TXDELAY makes a real
difference on throughput at 9600 Baud.

The only real nuissance is the fat that it is rock bound.  And there is no
way to switch between a couple of channels.  It only has one.

I have heard stories about intermod, but I used a filter (DCI), so it was
never a problem for me.

73 de VE7MDL                    ....Erik.


J. Miner <[e-mail]> wrote in article <[e-mail]>...
> Hello,
>
> I wanted to know if anyone had any information or reviews on the MFJ
> Data radio.  I am interested in having somthing for APRS tracking and to
> leave up a perment Mailbox.  Please forward any information.
>
> Thanks and 73,
> Jon N2XFZ
>


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From: [e-mail] (Mike Wootan)
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On Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:47:52 GMT, "J. Miner" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I wanted to know if anyone had any information or reviews on the MFJ
>Data radio.  I am interested in having somthing for APRS tracking and to
>leave up a perment Mailbox.  Please forward any information.

  The only "drawbacks" I see to this radio is it has only 5 watts TX
output and it is cystal controlled.  Looks like it could be a good
choice though if you only need a packet mailbox.  Also, it is capable
of 9600 baud, and is pretty re$onable.

        Mike


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From: [e-mail] (Marty Albert)
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On Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:47:52 GMT, "J. Miner" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I wanted to know if anyone had any information or reviews on the MFJ
>Data radio.  I am interested in having somthing for APRS tracking and to
>leave up a perment Mailbox.  Please forward any information.
>
>Thanks and 73,
>Jon N2XFZ

I posted a similar message several days ago, Jon, but have yet to
receive any E-Mail replies and have seen nothing posted here.

I have also asked around locally and no one has any information.

Maybe someone knows about this rig!

Take Care & 73



Marty Albert - [e-mail]
Amateur Radio: KC6UFM@KC6UFM.#SEMO.MO.USA.NOAM

Heartland Internet Services

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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:06 1996
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Hi, Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in... I own one of these data radios
and
it works pretty well. The sensitivity seems a little low but is adequate
for my
needs. A word of caution though, changing crystals is not trivial, it
requires
a realignment for which you need an accurate freq. counter, VHF RF source,
and an oscilloscope (optional).  MFJ doesn't mention this in their ads,
and
the alignment is quite tricky.

If you can leave it on 145.01 you will save yourself some grief.

73 de Steve K1EL


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J. Miner wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I wanted to know if anyone had any information or reviews on the MFJ
> Data radio.  I am interested in having somthing for APRS tracking and to
> leave up a perment Mailbox.  Please forward any information.
>
> Thanks and 73,
> Jon N2XFZ

Jon,

There was a review of the unit in the April '96 issue of QST.

I think Buck Rogers K4ABT reviewed it in CQ a little before or a little
after the QST review.

73,

Mark
N4EOC
Germantown, MD



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From: Ron Stordahl <[e-mail]>
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I have two of these, and actually they do work well.

But don't put them on alignment equipment as you will discover that they
drift about 1 KHz during a 1 second long packet!  Fortunately the nodes
you connect to likely will have sufficient bandwidth that they will not
notice the transmit frequency instability.

I returned one of them to MFJ explaining the problem, they returned a
new one to me which suffered from exactly the same problem.  I concluded
that they really didn't care to fix the problem, and since the unit does
work I just dropped the issue.


Maybe the current product has been fixed as my experience was about one
year ago.

73 Ron N5IN


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Has anyone seen any schematics for the roger beep circuit that used to
be so popular with CBers. I would like to try some experimenting if
anyone has any diagrams

                                           Thanks
                                                Steve VA3SF
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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:11 1996
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From: Tom Remmert-N2TR <[e-mail]>
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Subject: RTTY Sprint this Weekend
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The fifth annual TARA (Troy Amateur Radio Association) RTTY sprint is
this coming weekend.  A great way to warm up for the annual ARRL RTTY
contest in January.

For details see the web page at http://generators.com/tara/rtty.html

Hope to see you all on the RTTY Sub-bands

de Tom N2TR/5


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From: [e-mail] (Pete)
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Hello ALL

I am trying to get JNOS v1114x to work ontop of BPQ4.08a. I have
compiled in the BPQ component of BPQ (into NOS) and I'm a little
unsure how to set this up in the autoexec file.

I am able to get the packet drivers loaded for the ethernet card, no
problems but what is the setup in NOS ?

The reason for BPQ is that I want to ECHO data from the NOS box to a
second machine, running Winpack ontop of BPQ.  The Winpack side is
fine, no problems.  Currently I've setup the echo in NOS to send data
out of the second serial port and BPQ (on the Winpack machine)  will
pick us the kiss data via the serial link.  My aim is to get the lot
going via ethernet, if I can work out how to echo the data out on the
ethernet port.

Any help would be appreciated... C'mon, it can't be THAT hard ?!?

Cheers..Pete..vk2yx
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:13 1996
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From: Nick Button <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Running NOS ontop of BPQ
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 96 08:13:45  GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>
   [e-mail] (Pete) writes:
>
> I am trying to get JNOS v1114x to work ontop of BPQ4.08a. I have
> compiled in the BPQ component of BPQ (into NOS) and I'm a little
> unsure how to set this up in the autoexec file.

attach bpq init 0x7f 50
                  ^   ^--- bpq stream
                  |--- host mode interrupt

attach bpq 1 144
           ^  ^ -- port label
           | ---- bpq radio port

attach bpq 2 432
attach bpq 3 node
etc. etc.


Don't forget to define a loopback port in BPQCFG.TXT (TYPE=INTERNAL)
in the PORTS section if you want nos to be able to talk to
the bpq node.

I think the guy who wrote the BPQNOS code deserves a big hand,
it used to be a real pain having to do it with  the  NODEDRV  tsr  and
packet drivers....


I can't help you with the ethernet  bit  but  I'm  sure  someone  else
reading this will....

73

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Nick Button, Nottingham U.K.       email:-  [e-mail]   |
| BBS:-       [phone]       Phone:- [phone]             |
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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (KW5Q)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: SbFFT1.2 SB16 spectrum & filtering - BETTER GRAPHICS SUPPORT
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 96 03:41:50 GMT
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I have uploaded to Simtel.Net:

http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft12.zip
ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/hamradio/sbfft12.zip   1558410 bytes

sbfft12.zip     Sound Blaster spectral display & filtering

Features:
 * Sound Blaster 16 (or 100% compatible) input and output.
 * Band widths of 2K, 4K, 8K or 16K Hz.
 * Spectral resolutions of 1 Hz to 16 Hz per pixel.
 * Display of power spectral density with any of 4 color maps in either
     linear or logarithmic scale.
 * Define and use up to six filters simultaneously -- band pass, band
     stop, low pass, and high pass.  Filters have 25 Hz skirts at 3 to 50
     dB points.
 * Filters are defined graphically by mouse movement based upon the
     displayed spectrum.  Once you see a signal, you can quickly define a
     pass or stop filter around the signal by clicking and dragging the
     mouse.
 * Net filter passband is displayed at all times.
 * Filters can be selectively enabled and disabled by a single keystroke
     or mouse click.

Special requirements: DOS 3.0 or higher, SB16 or 100% compatible, SVGA,
VESA 640x480 & 1024x768, mouse, 486/66 or higher to display spectra,
Pentium 120 or higher to filter.

Changes: Differences from version 1.1:
 * Compatible with many more graphics cards.
 * Full screen mouse support with faster response at high resolutions.
 * Mouse click to enable/disable and delete filters.
 * Defaults are assumed for the Blaster environment variable.
 * Support for PCX graphics files instead of TIFF.

Freeware.  Uploaded by the author.

Kevin McWilliams, KW5Q, Applied Mathematician
[e-mail]

$$e^{-\frac12 K^2} \frac d{dK} e^{\frac12 K^2}e^{\sqrt{in}}$$
Kevin McWilliams
KW5Q
Applied Mathematician



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Gallup)
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  Can someone advise me if the soundblaster software will work with any 16 bit

soundcard?  Thanks in advance.


  Ed   W7DXZ
  [e-mail]


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From: "Dr. Grant C. Richison" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: STATIONS NOT ON NET
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 07:42:45 -0800
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Is there any way to listen to a radio station not on the net via
computer?  Is it possible, for example, to listen through a short-wave
system, or ham?  Is there some other way?


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (ik8enh)
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Subject: T.A.P.R. Eprom ver 1.1.9.  WHERE ???
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T.A.P.R. Eprom ver 1.1.9.  WHERE I CAN FOUND ???

e-mail          [e-mail]
AX.25           [e-mail]
or              IK8ENH  MR. Molaro Nino,Via R. Raiola 61
                        80053 C/mare di Stabia NA -ITALY




From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:17 1996
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From: Bob Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: T.A.P.R. Eprom ver 1.1.9.  WHERE ???
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ik8enh wrote:
>
> T.A.P.R. Eprom ver 1.1.9.  WHERE I CAN FOUND ???
>
> e-mail          [e-mail]
> AX.25           [e-mail]
> or              IK8ENH  MR. Molaro Nino,Via R. Raiola 61
>                         80053 C/mare di Stabia NA -ITALY

The 1.1.9 eprom is available from TAPR:

Tucson Amateur Packet Radio
8789-309 E. Tanque Verde Rd. #337
Tucson, AZ 85749-9399

http://www.tapr.org

FAX [phone]

Price is $15.00 (U.S.) plus shipping (a commands booklet is included).

The image file for version 1.1.8a is available for download from
ftp.tapr.org in /tapr/software_lib/tnc/eproms.exe.  The 1.1.9 image is
not available at this time.

Bob

--
Bob Nielsen                 Internet: [e-mail]
Tucson, AZ                  AMPRnet:  [e-mail]
                            AX.25:    [e-mail]
                            http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:18 1996
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Subject: Re: TCP/IP and Win95
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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jeff McLeman
) writes:
>On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:19:49 -0600, Steve Sampson
><[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>Robert Barron wrote:
>>>
>>> Are there any Win95 drivers for using a standard TNC on a serial port
>>> with the native Win95 TCP/IP stack?  If not, what are the alternatives?
>>> I'd rather not have to resort to setting up a LAN in my home to a
>>> Linux box just to get on to TCP/IP.
>>
>
>>Best bet is to just get Linux...
>>
>>Win95 just isn't designed for slow networks.
>>
>>Steve
>
>
>I'd have to agree with Steve. After writing and debugging a packet
>radio driver for Windows 95/ Windows NT, the stack is not tolerable to
>slow packet networks. Now if all Amateur IP networks were 19200 or
>higher, it woudn't be a problem. But I had nothing but problems at
>1200. So I stopped developing the driver. Sorry.
>
>Jeff
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>Jeff McLeman               [e-mail]
>Issaquah, Wa.
>A.K.A. KD1IT               kd1it@n7duo.#wwa.wa.usa.na
>----------------------------------------------------

 Hi,
 Any of you guys look at Warp Connect or Merlin? TCP/IP 3.5 stack
 included is very full featured.

                                                           Jim W9LZ


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Test.


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:20 1996
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From: Ron Stordahl <[e-mail]>
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Subject: TNC2 Audio Levels?
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 00:32:18 -0600
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Experimentally I find that the MFJ1270C TNC2 works with an input audio
level of from 50mv to 1000mv RMS, in the 1200 baud 1200hz/2200hz mode.
However it seems likely that there may be an optimum level which
experiences the lowest error rates.  Anyone know?  Surprisingly, or
maybe not surprisingly, the MFJ manual is mute on the entire subject.
At this time I have chosen to standardize the Micors at 300 mv RMS but I
am interested to know if your experience suggests differently.

Ron N5IN


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From: [e-mail] (Dave)
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Subject: Trade PK-88 for older memory keyer
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I have an excellent AEA PK-88 packet controller with original
manual and cable I would like to trade for an older memory
keyer, like the MFJ Grandmaster or similar.

email replies to [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dick Kriss)
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Subject: Re: TS-690S/450S Tx Audio Problem w/TNC :-(
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In article <01bbd7a2$be1bfe40$4708b7ce@stevew>, "Steve Wolf"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> > The problem is a latent defect in the Kenwood radio design. Forget about
> > working AFSK and go for a FSK hookup and you can get around the problem.
> >
> > Been there, done that and it is waste of your time and effort to contact
> > Kenwood. No problems in FSK...never could get AFSK to work and AEA does
> > not even show a PK-232 AFSK hookup. They recommend FSK...and I learned
> > why the hard way.
>
> My AFSK KAM+ works great on my 450 and my 690.  Always has.
>

Steve, I am please to hear your KAM+ works with the 450 in AFSK. You are
the first person to report success. I gave up messing with AFSK as there
were all kinds of floating grounds in the Kenwood connectors that caused
audio feedback.

> A friend's radios (he operates a number on HF,
> WA8BXN@WA8BXN.#NEOH.OH.USA.NA) work fine on AFSK, too.

I wonder if he was running a KAM or PK-232?
>
>
> Sounds to me like a problem with AEA.

Could be but they blamed Kenwood. Guess Kenwood wins as I understand
AEA is out of business.

73 de KD5VU
Austin, Texas
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:23 1996
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From: Ron Stordahl <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TX Delay effect on thru-put.
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:21:23 -0600
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Has anyone any data on the effect of TX Delay setting of a node upon
thru-put.

I have found that with Micors and MFJ1270C's it is possible to run the
TX delay down to as little as 100 ms (ie set at 10).  Similarly equiped
nodes will work with each other with settings that low.  But users often
have difficulty, thus 150 ms seems to be a bare minimum.  In practice
most nodes are set at 300/350/400 ms, although we have one in the area
which is set at an unbelievable 800 ms.

Anyone have any hard data on this?

Ron N5IN


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unsub [e-mail] ham-digital


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Boyer)
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Subject: Re: Voice Mail program(s) for Ham Radio??
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Mark Aitken ([e-mail]) wrote:
: What I am trying to track down is some form of software
: that would allow,  through the use of a soundblaster card,
: the ability for one's 2m or 70cm (or any radio) to act as a
: voice mail system, ie, through the use of DTMF a friend
: (or enemy) could access your computer and leave messages
: for you,  and like wise you could leave messages for them,  all
: in a VOICE playback mode.  Like a VOICE PMS.
k

I don't know about a computer prog, but my ft50r does this.

J.



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From: [e-mail] (Victor V Voronkov)
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Subject: Re: Voice Mail program(s) for Ham Radio??
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Mark Aitken ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hello,

> What I am trying to track down is some form of software
> that would allow,  through the use of a soundblaster card,
> the ability for one's 2m or 70cm (or any radio) to act as a
> voice mail system, ie, through the use of DTMF a friend
> (or enemy) could access your computer and leave messages
> for you,  and like wise you could leave messages for them,  all
> in a VOICE playback mode.  Like a VOICE PMS.

> If you know of any software that could do this,  I would love
> to hear from you

I hear about DVMS BBS which are used in Slovenia.
http://lois.kud-fp.si/hamradio/repeater.html

Seems DVMS is based on a voice chip and driver for FlexNet. BBSs be able
even exchage voice message's over fast Packet link.
DVMS is designed by DL9MHZ.

I also want to know more about this project.

73! Victor
---
http://www.stack.net/~victor/hamradio/




From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:26 1996
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From: peter smit <[e-mail]>
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Subject: wanted: d2mac coder !!
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 07:41:30 +0800
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I would like to buy a used d2mac coder (no decoder) for ATV
Please if you have any information contact me.

Peter Smit
PE1CQS


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From: [e-mail] (Rudi Logghe)
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Subject: Web site
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Hello,

Looking for some nice ham-related links?

Just try
http://www.club.innet.be/~year2138/radio.htm
with special emphasis on packet radio

and the "Ham radio in Belgium" at
http://www.club.innet.be/~year2138/hambel.htm
including the packet map for Belgium.

Regards!



---
Rudi Logghe, ON1JL
http://www.club.innet.be/members/year2138/



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:28 1996
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From: "Roger A. McCarty" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Web Site/SSTV Info
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:07:45 -0800
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New Web Site at;

http://www.geocities.com/~kd6cc

Bug reports welcome

Thanks

Roger KD6CC

--
Accurate!
   Electronics

Roger A. McCarty
Riverside, CA  USA
http://www.accurate-electronics.com
http://www.geocities.com/~kd6cc


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:28 1996
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From: "Erik Skovgaard" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Wefax Using Sound Card?
Date: 3 Dec 1996 05:45:51 GMT
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I saw a mention of  Wefax decoder software for a sound card.  Alas, I no
longer have the message.  Can someone help me?

73 de VE7MDL                               ....Erik.



From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:30 1996
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From: Mike Agner <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Wefax Using Sound Card?
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 23:32:45 -0800
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Erik Skovgaard wrote:
>
> I saw a mention of  Wefax decoder software for a sound card.  Alas, I no
> longer have the message.  Can someone help me?
>
> 73 de VE7MDL                               ....Erik.  Hiya Erik ; check out
the following site for the program known as FTV.
 It also does standard RTTY, by the way.  It was built up by Brian 9H1JS
of Malta.  Enjoy!
  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2504/ftv.htm
  73s  Mike KA3JJZ


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:31 1996
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From: "Erik Skovgaard" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Wefax Using Sound Card?
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Mike,

Thanks, I will try it out.

73 de VE7MDL              ....Erik.


Mike Agner <[e-mail]> wrote in article <[e-mail]>...
> Erik Skovgaard wrote:
> >
> > I saw a mention of  Wefax decoder software for a sound card.  Alas, I
no
> > longer have the message.  Can someone help me?
> >
> > 73 de VE7MDL                               ....Erik.  Hiya Erik ; check
out the following site for the program known as FTV.
>  It also does standard RTTY, by the way.  It was built up by Brian 9H1JS
> of Malta.  Enjoy!
>   http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2504/ftv.htm
>   73s  Mike KA3JJZ
>


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:32 1996
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From: "Edgar Dijkhuizen" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Where to download Grapic Packet 2.0  ??
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I'm working now with Grapic Packet 1.61b.
I hear some rumours that version 2 is available.
Can anybody tell me where to download it??

Thanks!!


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Werner Ranner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Where to download Grapic Packet 2.0  ??
Date: 9 Dec 1996 12:23:38 GMT
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In article <01bbe4e1$778fade0$c2f04fc1@default>, "Edgar Dijkhuizen" <Edgar.Dij
[e-mail]> says:
>
>I'm working now with Grapic Packet 1.61b.
>I hear some rumours that version 2 is available.
>Can anybody tell me where to download it??
>
>Thanks!!

Also heard this, but there is no such version of Graphic Packet.
Recently read a posting of the author of GP and he said that there┤s
a OS/2 Version, which is called 2.0 but has the same features as
1.61b. So this is the latest available version.

73s, Werner
Austria


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:34 1996
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From: "Paul N. Nix" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Where to get a list of RTTY Stations?
Date: 2 Dec 1996 17:22:42 GMT
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Tom:

In your posting you asked:

> Is there a current list of RTTY/AMTOR/SITOR,
> etc stations out there?

I presume you mean commercial stations ?

There are some 'guides' available, that list all manner
of commercial stations (Gilfer Shortwave, and other
concerns, carry them), but you may want to just try
tuning around 8.4 and 10.3 MHz., to see what you find.

It is becoming quite difficult to find a plain RTTY
transmission outside the ham bands. The only ones I've
found lately were Spanish Language news bulletins. It
seems like all the wire services, etc., have gone to
various forms of encoded signals, such that your garden-
variety RTTY decoder (like my old PK-232) doesn't know
how to handle.

As far as finding a commercial source for SITOR
(essentially the same thing as AMTOR), I frequently
find one of AT&T's "High Seas" stations (think
'WOM') are on around 8.4 MHz, sending out weather
reports in 'FEC' Mode.

If you're speaking of Amateur stations, try listening
between 14.060 and 14.100 MHz, and also 7.040 to 7.080
MHz.

On 20 Meters, the AMTOR/PacTOR stations tend to be
between 14.060 and 14.080 MHz, with RTTY between 14.080
and 14.100 MHz. I don't know what kind of 'standards'
the Clover II, GTOR, and PacTOR II operators are
keeping (I can't operate those modes)

Regards;

Paul Nix  (WB5AGF)




From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pete)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: WINPACK Server Programming
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 20:41:54 GMT
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On Mon, 09 Dec 1996 00:16:18 -0800, Steven Monsey
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hay!
>
>I'd like to write a winpack server program. Anyone out there done one?
>I would like to ask a few questions.
>
>Steve N0FPF Seattle, WA

Steve

It all documented in the reqfil server.  If you want to write a
server, you could probably use MOST of the code in the reqfil server
to generated the bid number etc !!!

Pete..vk2yx


From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:36 1996
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Subject: www.hamradio-online.com: most popular ham web site?
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Ham Radio Online is now in its second year of continuous publication on the
Internet. With readers in 53 countries around the world, Ham Radio Online is
one of the world's most popular amateur radio web sites. Visit us at
http://www.hamradio-online.com

We have feature stories added all the time, real-time radio propagation and
aurora information, equipment specifications online, a huge library of past
articles, current disaster situation reports, commercial products directory an
d
one of the largest directories of Amateur Radio web sites on the net, plus an
opinion section and a bulletin board where you can post your own messages.

Right now, wee have stories running on DXpeditions, African shortwave
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From [e-mail] Wed Dec 11 19:48:37 1996
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From: Ron Stordahl <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: X1J4 Question
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 19:20:10 -0600
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I am using a MFJ1270C with TheNet X1J4 firmware at a remote site.  It is
not crosslinked to another TNC, thus the RS-232 plug is not in use.
What I am seeing is that in the STATS list 'L1 flush' for port 1 is
being incremented once every 10 minutes.  If you will look at mode
paramaters, which follow, you will see that the port 1 broadcast period
is set at 600 seconds, i.e. 10 minutes.  It appears that inspite of the
fact that nothing is connected to the RS-232 port, and thus pin 23 is
hopefully not asserted, the program is still attempting to send a nodes
broadcase to port 1 every 10 minutes, resulting in a port flush,
incrementing the 'L1 flush' once every 10 minutes.

I could of course set this timer to a high value (or maybe when set at
zero it suppresses the port 1 nodes broadcast--I should have checked
that for myself before sending this but...).

Those of you who know the internals of X1J4 may know exactly how this is
supposed to work.

I am interested in knowing.

Thanks

Ron N5IN

Here is the info from the node:

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P
CLRDX:N5IN-4}  80 86 192 255 6 4 1800 12 300 2 6 180 4 4 900 64 10 5 4 10
100 18000 1 0 0 1
MO
CLRDX:N5IN-4}  0 0 6 3 0 30 0 600 0 600 2 31 0 0 1 0 0
STAT
CLRDX:N5IN-4} Statistics
L1 Tx % : 8 6 12 22 16 6
L1 DCD% : 27 16 32 51 40 12
L1 RxOvr: 0 0 0 0
L1 TxUnd: 0 0 0 0
L2 RxCRC: 34 0 729 0
L2 heard: 74 0 1180 0
L2 recvd: 15 0 538 0
L2 sent : 14 4 543 24
L2 RxRNR: 0 0 0 0
L2 RxREJ: 0 0 2 0
L2 TxRNR: 0 0 0 0
L2 TxREJ: 0 0 16 0
L2 fails: 0 0 0 0
L3 g'wyd: 0 0
L4 recvd: 8 258
L4 sent : 6 248
Buffers : 596 599 560 580 579 599
CPU loop: 359 351 347 336 340 346
Timers  : 5 5
L1 flush: 0 29
--------------466C4D934C4--



From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:55:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Edwin Teh, 9V1ZY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: ### Packet with Motorola HT
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 15:54:13 GMT
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I've got a Motorola AP50 that I'd like to connect my TNC to. However,
no one around here would sell me the connector I need (the 'Accessory
Connector').

Can this darn thing be purchased from Motorola as a spare part or
something? Would someone be so kind as to provide me a part number,
and where I might purchase it? Also if you've got any idea how much a
beast like that would cost?

If not, can it be improvised? Anyones got the dimensions of this
connector? (The accessory connector for the AP50 is the same as the
GP300 and others similar).

When I've found the connector or something thereabouts, anyone knows
how I can connect it up to a) My baycom modem, b) a MFJ 1270C.

Email replies appericiated. Thanks.


Finally, does anyone know
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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:55:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Edwin Teh, 9V1ZY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: ### Source for Motorola AP50 speakermike plug (packet)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 13:03:16 GMT
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I'm looking for the accessory connector, or a compatible plug to set
up packet with my AP50 handheld - but haven't had much luck over here
(even with my Motorola dealers) - it's 100% compatible with the Radius
GP300 series of handhelds from Motorola.

Anyone have any sources? Please email me. Thanks.

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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Miguel)
Newsgroups: comp.dsp,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: 1200 baud FSK demodulation in software
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 23:57:36 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>In article <58b7n2$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>>>For a project I am currently working on, I need to decode caller-id
>>>signals.  The caller-id is encoded using 1200 baud FSK, with 1200 HZ
>>>indicating a mark and 2200 HZ indicating a space.  This is the same Bell
>>>202 format that is frequently used for packet radio.
>
>>> . . . description of my use of band-reject filters . . .
>>This is your first problem. You should be using *bandpass* filters
>>and not band reject filters. With your technique, the output of each
>>...
>>and can lead to many data errors. Use a pair of FIR or IIR filters
>>instead, configured as bandpass filters centered on each tone.

>I've tried this, with fairly bad results.  I think the problem is that I
>only have one cycle at 1200 for mark and a little under two for space.  Do
>filters work with only one cycle?  I tried it using 9 and 17 sample
>band-pass filters.  Should I use longer ones, even though that will
>overlap seriously with the previous sample?  The band-reject filters I use
>only look at the samples at +-9 and +-5, but they seem to perform better
>than the FIR band-pass filters I've tried.  (Designed using fir1() in
>matlab)

[lots cutted]

Hi Ethan:

You hit it!
I know almost nothing about DSP, but, as far as i know, you can't
apply any filtering to one or two cycles signals because the system
can't reach steady state, and the Fourier transform of such signals
shows they spread trought a wide set of frecuencies, so they are
overlapping and you can't get enough diference between the two
subbands.
I remember the old good SINCLAIR SPECTRUM 48k and AMSTRAD 64k (Z80
machines) which had an audio tape as mass storage device. They used
the same method you are trying to implement in PC with SB to save to
and read from the tape, and the solution is fairly simple:
Do some lo-pass filtering to avoid noise, and detect every tone by
simply counting the number of samples (or time) between two upwards
zero crosses.
IE:
(if you are not using this hell of windows the following looks like
correctly)
                |header         |start  |data
samples         ++++----++++----++--++--+++++----++--++--
counts           4 + 4   4 + 4  2+2 2+2   4 + 4  2+2  2+2
average            8       8       4        8        4
bits               1       1       0        1        0



Miguel Angel
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:01 1996
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From: rob@pe1chl (Rob Janssen)
Newsgroups: comp.dsp,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: 1200 baud FSK demodulation in software
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:52:56 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Miguel)
writes:

>>Yes, you can filter the signals. With either an analog or digital

>Hi, Gary.
>I'm agree, you always can do filtering. I meant this is no a good way
>to get good enough results, in this particular case.

Of course there are other ways to demodulate AFSK.  One popular way
is to use a PLL that tracks the input frequency, and use the control
voltage of the VCO as "demodulated data" signal.
This method is used in many integrated FSK demodulators.

The 1200 baud AFSK packet radio modem written for the DSP card 4 by
Jarkko Vuori uses this method.  Details can be found on
ftp://wooster.hut.fi/pub/alefnull
The file "doc.zip" contains DSP card 4 documentation and a description
of the modem, "source.zip" has the modem sourcecode.
Beware, it is in Motorola DSP56001 assembly language and you will
probably not be able to make any sense of it when you don't know DSPs.

Symbol synchronization is also covered in this doc and source, but it
is for synchrounous data.  I'm not so sure if this will work well for
async data, especially when it is not sent at full rate.

Similar modem software for a TI DSP is also available.  Try the TAPR
WWW site for info on their DSP93.  (www.tapr.org)

Rob
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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:03 1996
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From: Mike <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 2-Meter radio with packet, power supply   (F.S.)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 12:52:08 -0500
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Packet system is fully functional, and includes a Macintosh
computers, a TNC, a DC power supply and a two-meter FM radio.  Software
and manuals are included.

    --------  Package for a total of  $400.00  ---------
- Mac Plus 2 Meg memory and built-in 40 meg hard drive
        (with keyboard and Kensington trackball)
- AEA PK-232 MBX TNC unit
- KDK 2033 (25 watts) 2 meter FM tranceiver
- "Azden" DC power supply (a look-alike copy)
- All cables for direct plug-in

------  If the Mac is not needed, the price is $275.00  -------

     The Azden radio is modified for direct connection to the AEA packet
system.

     All cabling is clearly marked, and included.

     All related manuals are included for this packet system.  All
modifications are clearly documented.

     The front panel VOLUME control is independent of the packet's audio
input.

     The two-meter radio is rated at 25 watts.  It uses solid-state
TX-RX switching, so the overall system is silent in operation, as the
packet system works.

     The PK-232 MBX has the most recent ROM upgrade.  (I believe the
date is early 1996...)

     These units are at my home, in Hampton, Minnesota, USA.  The prices
reflect US dollars, and do not include shipping.

     Thank you!  -Mike  K0JTA


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 6 meter packet activity
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> "Christopher (Chris) W. Boone" <cboon
[e-mail]> writes:
>
>I have always thought 6 would be excellent for long haul backbone
>operation at speeds up to 9600 baud...with low band gear being CHEAP on
>the used market (my former company just got rid of all their lowband gear
>and went 800Mhz), and the distance 6mtr offers as reliable operation, it
>would be a good band to look at.

6m has a problem as a backbone channel, and that's E skip. As the
sunspot numbers rise, 6m E skip (and even F2 layer skip) is going
to become more common. At the height of the sunspot cycle, TV ch 2
is plagued by skip interference. A 6m backbone would be too.

Of course you could take advantage of this to do truly long haul
forwarding, as is done on HF, but the skip openings are unpredictable
and probably won't be frequent enough for the next couple of years
to make it a dependable linking method.

OTOH, 6m is almost perfect for random meteor scatter. The US government
uses stations operating just below 6m to telemeter snowpack data back
to central receivers via meteor scatter. They run 100 watts into 3-el
yagis, and the path lengths are on the order of what you'd expect from
single hop E skip. There's a meteor along every few seconds with a dense
enough trail to reflect a 6m signal. If the meteor trail is in a common
volume of space with the beams of the transmitting and receiving stations,
a nice strong signal will be received for from a few hundred milliseconds
to a few seconds as the trail dissipates. Using fairly high speed packet
techniques, data bursts can be exchanged all day long.

Ordinary connected mode AX25 isn't very well suited for this, however.
You don't want a go-back-N protocol for this use, and the protocol has
to be able to take advantage of the random nature of the channel. What
the government stations do is transmit continously from the master
*receive* site. When a remote station receives the signal from the
receive site, it begins transmitting data (on another channel). When
it loses the master receive site signal, it stops transmitting and
waits for the next meteor. The receive site is continously transmitting
an ACK for the last good frame received, and fill requests for any
missed frames, so when the remote hears the receive site signal again,
it knows where to pick up data transmission.

With some (fairly serious) loss of efficiency, one could operate
half-duplex stations instead. One station would "ping" the path
continously, alternately transmitting and listening on a very short
turnaround, and the other station would respond when it heard a ping,
thus commencing data transfer, pausing between frames for an ACK.
We could use AX25 this way if we use short frames, set maxframe to 1,
and retry to forever. An optimized protocol would be much better
though, and the quasi-duplex linking better still.

Gary
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jean Letourneau)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 6 Meter packet??
Date: 18 Dec 1996 22:06:36 GMT
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Is there some packet activity on 6 meter? if so, can you send the
Frequency, Mode and speed? I am getting slowly ready to get my 6 meter on
packet before the band opening, and wonder if I can ever by any luck get
anything.

---
Jean Letourneau  --  Fredericton Area Network


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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:06 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: 9600 Packet with GE MVP or Master II
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Has anyone had any luck in using either a GE MVP or a Master II for 440 mhz
9600 baud packet?

Need some information on these radios so that I can get our club's packet
cluster on line. Thanks and 73!

John
KD6CLO




From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 9600 Packet with GE MVP or Master II
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
 writes:
>
>Has anyone had any luck in using either a GE MVP or a Master II for 440 mhz
>9600 baud packet?
>
>Need some information on these radios so that I can get our club's packet
>cluster on line. Thanks and 73!

The receivers work fine, just remember that the discriminators have
a DC offset.

The transmitters present a bit of a problem. They use phase modulation,
not direct FM. That won't do. You can modify the Icom and modulate the
temperature compensation input, but a better way is to convert to a
Motorola channel element. It is designed to accept direct FM modulation.
All you need do is devise an adapter to mate the pins, the GE Icom and
the Motorola channel element have different pinouts.

Gary
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
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From: "Tom Carrubba" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Advanced License Class, Lindenhurst LI. Jan 8, 1997
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Amateur Advanced Classes -Lindenhurst

Great South Bay Amateur Radio Club Amateur Radio Classes

ADVANCED THEORY CLASSES -

The Great South Bay ARC has scheduled Advanced classes beginning
on Wednesday January 8, 1997.  Classes start at 7:30 PM and
will continue to 9:30 PM.

The class instructor is Phil Lewis N2MUN.

Classes are FREE. All students are required to have the ARRL
Advanced Class Study manual (4th edition good through June 30, 1999).
Available from the ARRL, 225 Main St., Newington CT 06111.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

All classes are located in the basement of Babylon Town Hall,
200 E. Sunrise HWY, Lindenhurst NY in the Emergency Operations Center
(ARES/RACES Room), access is gained via the door at the bottom of the
stairs at the rear of Town Hall.

If you are interested in attending a class or you know someone who is,
have them contact Walter Wenzel KA2RGI [phone] for additional
information or just come on down to class.

Information is also available during the GSBARC 2 meter info net every
Monday evening at 7:00 pm on the WB2FKZ repeater, 146.685 -600 4Z(136.5)
PL required. You may also write to:

GSBARC
P.O. Box 1356
West Babylon, NY 11704

Visit GSBARC online at http://www.li.net/~tomcar/gsbarc.htm

Happy Holidays
Tom Carrubba KA2D
President, GSBARC


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From: sg <[e-mail]>
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Subject: AEA DSP-232 help, please! TX prob on cw mode
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 08:25:37 -0800
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Greetings and thanx for reading this posting. I seem to not be able to
tx on CW mode when I press the tx button in Macratt III. Other modes
will tx....
Is anybody else experiencing this problem??? I also was curious to know
if SIAM mode actually works... I seem to get stuck in that mode after i
try to change to another mode. After a couple of tries, my program gets
buggy and I have to replace the copy....
This leads to another question... IS pc-pacratt for windows good? Any
major bugs in it? Any other software suggestions? Thanks! 73's

de Steve, Wi0e


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Dear friends,

My AEA DSP 2232 doesn┤t   work right.
I┤m getting on the little screen of the TNC the following,
Packet
Packet
and both lights DCD and CMD are on.

On the screen of the computer appears the following message when I
communicate with the TNC,

cmd: 3d: DSP software load failed and sometimes
cmd: 2e: DSP software load failed.

I dont know if the Microchip Motorola 56001zl20 is doing wrong or some
statics on it or other.
I can communicate and change modems, etc without any problem.
How can I solve this problem..
AEA they say is in process of closing, so they can not help me.
Please some one do it. If you have service maunal check the error
messages and answer me.
Awaiting your kind comments, have my best.
E-mail me [e-mail]
Christian-Pedro EA2AFI
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Christian M. Hondeville Urrutibeheity

Particular de club 2                                  Phone:  [phone]
Las Arenas-48930                                      Fax:    [phone]
Spain-Espa±a                                          E-mail: [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Kevin L. Smith)
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Subject: Alaska Packet List
Date: 16 Dec 1996 07:55:21 GMT
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Does anyone have a packet list for Alaska?  Specifically the Dutch
Harbor/Unalaska region, as I am going to be in and out of there quite a
lot next year.

-thanks




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On 16 Dec 1996, Kevin L. Smith wrote:

> Does anyone have a packet list for Alaska?  Specifically the Dutch
> Harbor/Unalaska region, as I am going to be in and out of there quite a
> lot next year.
>
> -thanks

I suggest checking http://www.tapr.org/directory frequently over the next
few months as their new North American Digital System Directory begins to
fill out as entries are submitted from regional digital groups and
individuals.

Steve N8GNJ

--
Steve Stroh  Woodinville, Washington, USA  [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:12 1996
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From: "A.C. SPRAGGINS" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Alinco DJ-582T Freq Mods
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:29:18 -0600
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Greetings to All:
I have been using my dj-582t on packet for a while.  A friend has a
dj-580t modified to receive up to about 900 mHz.  A mod sheet that I got
for the 580 says to cut the red wire and the blue wire for extended
freqs.  I can get down to the Aircraft freqs with AM, and up to about
511 mHz but no higher.  I tried hitting the UHF button several times as
someone else suggested but I'm still limited to 511 mHz.

Any serious suggestions will be appreciated.

Thanks and 73 de "A.C.", W5EZM
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Glen Quarnstrom)
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Subject: Re: Alinco DJ-582T Freq Mods
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"A.C. SPRAGGINS" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Greetings to All:
>I have been using my dj-582t on packet for a while.  A friend has a
>dj-580t modified to receive up to about 900 mHz.  A mod sheet that I got
>for the 580 says to cut the red wire and the blue wire for extended
>freqs.  I can get down to the Aircraft freqs with AM, and up to about
>511 mHz but no higher.  I tried hitting the UHF button several times as
>someone else suggested but I'm still limited to 511 mHz.

I doubt you can mod the 582 to get the high UHF (cellular) stuff.  The
582 came out just after the rules were changed to outlaw easily
modifying receivers to monitor cellphones.
--
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bart Rowlett)
Subject: Re: Bell 202 spec on the net?
Organization: wb6hqk
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In article <[e-mail]>,
stop junk e-mail <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]> Ted Yamada <[e-mail]
> writes:
>>From: Ted Yamada <[e-mail]>
>>Subject: Bell 202 spec on the net?
>>Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 14:05:24 -0800
>
>>Can anyone point me to a web page that has
>>the bell 202 spec. (info for 1200 baud)?
>
>No, but it uses 1200 and 2200 Hz and is half duplex only.

A genuine 202 has a 5 bit per second reverse channel which was typically
used to send interrupts back to a host CPU.  The typical AX25 setup
abandons all of the 202 standard except for the forward (1200-1800) tone
frequencies.

bart  wb6hqk





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I would like to look at the program BMKMULTY by G4BMK.
Can somebody point me to an ftp site or a url?


n2iko >>>>





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To: "James P. Ryan" <[e-mail]>

> I would like to look at the program BMKMULTY by G4BMK.
> Can somebody point me to an ftp site or a url?
If you want a free HF terminal program, check out
http://www.ife.ee.ethz.ch/~sailer/ham/ham.html

Tom
hb9jnx/ae4wa


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From: [e-mail] (John Hill)
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In article <[e-mail]>, James P. Ryan <[e-mail]>
 wrote:
>I would like to look at the program BMKMULTY by G4BMK.
>Can somebody point me to an ftp site or a url?

No free peeks. You have to buy it to decide you don't like it.

John


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:18 1996
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From: Joesph Fenn <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: BPQ Parameters / PACLEN
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On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Ron Stordahl wrote:

 The BPQ documentation is unclear, at least to me, regarding PACLEN.  The
 parm is stated in the Network System Parameters as well as in the PORTs
 sections.  In the BPQCFG file which follows PACLEN=256 in the beginning
 and PACLEN=128 in the PORTs.  It works, but is it the best choice?

In my experience with Packet, if as you say your path is a good solid
one with excellent signal, you try to obtain maximum thruput by setting
paclen to the max (255) and also maxframes to the max (7).  I relay
all the incoming Army Mars traffic off the internet into the local
MARS Packet BBS exactly as above, and its amazing how fast those
long winded messages rip thru without a single frame rej.  Some are
real long ones too but it really rips on VHF.
                   Joe ABM6JF/KH6JF





From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:19 1996
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Subject: Cross band packet on Kenwood 733??
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From: Don Labriola <[e-mail]>
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Would anyone know of a setup mode or procedure to allow the Kenwood 733a
to receive packet on one of the halves (UHF) and transmit on the other
(VHF) via the packet connector. What I'm really doing is trying to use
the packet connector to connect into an AEA radiolink controller for use
as a remote, and the packet connector provides 1) a shielded audio input
with PTT (the normal mic is hard to shield), 2) Audio out, and 3)Squelch
detect (COR) output. I can get any two by other methods. The packet, as
far as I can tell, will only direct the received audio from the side
that is selected as transmit (PTT), not from the selected "control"
channel.

Any suggestions or help is appreciated. (Please also E-mail - I don't
always get to read all of the news groups before they go stale - our
local news server tends to have a fairly short memory span!)

73's de W6QS


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:21 1996
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From: tnic <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Cross band packet on Kenwood 733??
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The instructions for cross band repeat can be found on the Kenwood web page

http://www.kenwood.net

They dont put the instructions for cross band repeat or wireless memory
programing (to a like rig) and wireless remote control

because many of those features are not leagle in certain cournties.

Go to the web bage and look for the tech notes.

Enjoy.


In rec.radio.amateur.equipment Don Labriola <[e-mail]>
 wrote:
: Would anyone know of a setup mode or procedure to allow the Kenwood 733a
: to receive packet on one of the halves (UHF) and transmit on the other
: (VHF) via the packet connector. What I'm really doing is trying to use
: the packet connector to connect into an AEA radiolink controller for use
: as a remote, and the packet connector provides 1) a shielded audio input
: with PTT (the normal mic is hard to shield), 2) Audio out, and 3)Squelch
: detect (COR) output. I can get any two by other methods. The packet, as
: far as I can tell, will only direct the received audio from the side
: that is selected as transmit (PTT), not from the selected "control"
: channel.

: Any suggestions or help is appreciated. (Please also E-mail - I don't
: always get to read all of the news groups before they go stale - our
: local news server tends to have a fairly short memory span!)

: 73's de W6QS


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Doug Wittich)
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Subject: Re: Cross band packet on Kenwood 733??
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Don Labriola <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Would anyone know of a setup mode or procedure to allow the Kenwood 733a
>to receive packet on one of the halves (UHF) and transmit on the other
>(VHF) via the packet connector. What I'm really doing is trying to use
>the packet connector to connect into an AEA radiolink controller for use
>as a remote, and the packet connector provides 1) a shielded audio input
>with PTT (the normal mic is hard to shield), 2) Audio out, and 3)Squelch
>detect (COR) output. I can get any two by other methods. The packet, as
>far as I can tell, will only direct the received audio from the side

My understanding, though I have not tested it, is that the transmit
side as selected by the bandsel will take whatever is coming in on the
pkt connector.  You can feed the speaker of the passive side receive
in on the mic line in the packet connecter, perhaps.

I'm trying to receive packet on one side for APRS while using the
other side for a phone QSO, and my info is that I must feed the audio
out of the speaker to the TNC, and not use the output of the pkt
connector, as that will have the audio from the active side on it.  OF
course, I will not be able to transmit pkt in this configuration.


Doug in Baltimore


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dexter N. Muir)
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Greetings, all...

   There has been a hiccup in the Digest distribution, somewhere between my
provider (massey.ac.nz) and ucsd.edu, and I am missing the following Digests:

492
494 (scratch that, got it from archive...)
495, and
497, (scratch that, got it from archive...)

  between the 7th and the 10th December.  As far as I can tell, they are not
in the archive: the script only processes one Digest per day.  I archive
these for local Hams, and try my best to get them all... and one or two of
the current threads are of interest to me.  Has anyone trapped these, who
could email them to me (Mime attachments OK)?

   Brian does a sterling job of maintaining the distribution, but once in a
while someone else gets in there (Murphy? :-) and fouls things up. In a
personal email on one such occasion, he said he needed to break a few
fingers (look out, Murphy!), and he has my full permission: these hiccups
are occurring in other Digest distributions from ucsd.edu, too, and there
are probably others affected.

  Best wishes to all for the coming Festive season, and 73 de ZL3LH.

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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:25 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Digital Sats for Maritime Mobile
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 23:29:53 -0500
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I am on the 3 9600 baud digital birds from my 36' sailboat.
Check http://www5.palmnet.net/~ghunt for a writeup on the
gear. It works.
73 george w4avo


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Michelson)
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Subject: DIN 7/16 ?
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A few questions concerning PCS antennas:

1. I've noticed that many PCS antennas are equipped with DIN 7/16 rather
   than N connectors.  Why?

2. I've also noticed that many PCS antenna specifications now include an
   intermod spec.  Is this spec as measured off the assembly line or
   at the end of service?  (It seems to me that any antenna will exhibit
   good intermod specs when it's brand new and that performance after
   exposure to weather is the distinguishing factor.  Or have I missed
   something?)

3. What is the preferred method for measuring PCS antenna intermod
   characteristics?

Any thoughts or insights would be appreciated.

--
Dave Michelson                             University of British Columbia
[e-mail]                         Department of Electrical Engineering


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ron Cole)
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Subject: Re: DIN 7/16 ?
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[e-mail] (Dave Michelson) wrote:

>A few questions concerning PCS antennas:

>1. I've noticed that many PCS antennas are equipped with DIN 7/16 rather
>   than N connectors.  Why?

>2. I've also noticed that many PCS antenna specifications now include an
>   intermod spec.  Is this spec as measured off the assembly line or
>   at the end of service?  (It seems to me that any antenna will exhibit
>   good intermod specs when it's brand new and that performance after
>   exposure to weather is the distinguishing factor.  Or have I missed
>   something?)

>3. What is the preferred method for measuring PCS antenna intermod
>   characteristics?

>Any thoughts or insights would be appreciated.

The 7/16 DIN is suposed to have a lower loss than an N connector.  I
have not seen any evidenace but thats the story,
Oh, It will handle more power but thats a moot point at 1850 to 1990
Mhz.  Its interesting to note that the N connector is use used inside
the Base station and the DIN is used outside.

I cannot help you with the Intermod ratings, I will have to look into
that tomorrow and see what the antennas we are using are rated at.

Ron Cole
N5HYH



From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (ernie)
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Hi
Any info on 9600 packet operation with this tiny DJ-580 by Alinco ?
Mods ?
Thanks in advance from Isaac



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From: [e-mail] (cathryn)
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>the 2232..  Oddly now that AEA is out of business some of this
>information my become available, but for now there is probably
>nothing.  I hope I am wrong!

I don't know.  I'd count yourself lucky if the information isn't
destroyed, accidentally forever.  Getting together all this kind
of stuff after a company implodes is a horrible task, when nobody
works there any more -- and next month's rent isn't being paid, and
the place needs to be cleaned out.



From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:29 1996
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From: "Brian K. Short" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: DSP-2232 &SSTV?
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I understand from reading an email from a reflector that there
is a NEW EPROM which includes some NEW MODES.  I saw the list,
and among them was a ZERO CROSSING DETECTOR mode that can be
used with any of the common programs: JVFAX, MSCAN, DL4SAW, PROSKAN,
etc, etc...

I sold my 2232 a few months ago, but perhaps good news for others.

Maybe someone else has more information to add...

Brian [e-mail] [phone]

cathryn wrote:
>
> >the 2232..  Oddly now that AEA is out of business some of this
> >information my become available, but for now there is probably
> >nothing.  I hope I am wrong!
>
> I don't know.  I'd count yourself lucky if the information isn't
> destroyed, accidentally forever.  Getting together all this kind
> of stuff after a company implodes is a horrible task, when nobody
> works there any more -- and next month's rent isn't being paid, and
> the place needs to be cleaned out.


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alan Biddle)
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Subject: Re: DSP-2232 &SSTV?
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Brian,

I think you saw something for the 232, not the 2232.  AEA sent out the
upgrade EPROM's shortly after the they officially went out of
business.  It says something good about Mike Lamb that he made a real
effort to do this.

Alan
WA4SCA



From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:31 1996
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From: "J. W. Jennings" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: DSP-232
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 04:23:43 -0600
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I was surprised to recently receive an upgrade set of ROM's for the
DSP-232 from AEA.  However when I installed them I found what appears to
be a bug.  In the PACTOR mode when the "OVER" is sent (CNTRL Z)
apparently the AMTOR "OVER" (+?) is sent instead.  The new ROM's were
marked Version 1.0 L31.  Does anyone have any information? Is there a
source for upgrades on the ROM's for the DSP-232?

Thanks and 73,

Jim
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tom Geyer)
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Subject: Emergency communication with packet
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As a relatively new ham, I'm getting interested in packet.  I would like
to be able to use my packet station in case of a local emergency (fire,
earthquake; both quite common here in Santa Barbara) when there is no
power.

I'm looking for a TNC that works without wall power.  I understand there
are some micro-sized devices and even the Kam KP-3 (?) can run on a nine
volt battery.  I already have a laptop computer.

My question concerns the packet BBS.  As I understand it, when I connect
to a PBBS, I am connected to somebody's PC.  Then my message is forwarded
along (not sure how).  If I want to get  messages out during an emergency,
am I reliant upon the PBBS having emergency backup power?  Thus, if the
local guy running the PBBS has his computer plugged into the wall with no
backup, am I looking at a single point failure?

I assume the PBBS must be exchanging data with a digipeater somewhere.
Would I be able to talk directly with the digipeater using my TNC?

Please help a newbie get informed.
Tom


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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (cathryn)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Encryption of voice over amateur frequencies is Not legal
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>>     4.  ... messages in codes or ciphers intended to obscure the
>>meaning thereof, except as otherwise provided herein; ...
>

What I'm more interested in is the putting signatures on packet messages.
In this case, the key of the owner of the message would be encrypted, but
the text would be clear.

Hams would register a public key in some kind of white pages database.
They'd tack on the PGP tail, and then any kind of internet gateway type
of device could verify the validity of the device and pass the message
to the packet network.

Honestly, though, would anyone really be hurt if internet email were
forwarded through packet. I think ham radio loses a lot for all the
paranoia that one of the dreaded 5 bad words goes through.  It seems to
me like a little lightening up on the obscenity/business rules would
go a long way to breathing a bit of fresh air into the hobby.

I think it would be sufficient to provide a means and put in a good faith
effort to bounce email from sights that advertise or send pornography.
Rather than painstakingly insuring that only messages from ham radio operators
get out -- which seems overkill to me.



From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:35 1996
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cathryn wrote:
>
> >>     4.  ... messages in codes or ciphers intended to obscure the
> >>meaning thereof, except as otherwise provided herein; ...
> >
>
> What I'm more interested in is the putting signatures on packet messages.
> In this case, the key of the owner of the message would be encrypted, but
> the text would be clear.

The way I interpret it, PGP signatures are not codes or ciphers intended
to obscure the meaning of a packet transmission.  Therefore I assume it to
be perfectly acceptable.  That is, as long as the text of the transmission
is not obsucred.  As a matter of fact, it is my humble opinion that PGP
SIGNATURES should be encouraged both on the air and off.  I very much hope
that people don't start attempting to use packet as a form of encrypted
private communications... if they do I hope that they are punished in such
a way as to make an example out of them.

PGP makes for a convenient way to verify that the originator of a message
is in fact the person who affixed their call sign to it.  It could be
used to easily verify that a message to a system came from the control
operator, as I am sure there are other potential useful applications
where reliable identity authentication is necessary without the need for
encryption of the body or content of the message.

>
> Hams would register a public key in some kind of white pages database.
> They'd tack on the PGP tail, and then any kind of internet gateway type
> of device could verify the validity of the device and pass the message
> to the packet network.

I believe that there are many key server software packages available, and
currently put into use on the internet now.  I have never used one, so I
cant say I know too much about them, but I doubt that implementing them
over packet would too challenging.

Anyway, just a quick comment.

By the way, I have used PGP to sign this
message just in the same way that I suppose it could be done over
packet.  As you can see, the body of the message is freely readable,
there is no code or cypher intended to obscure the meaning of a message,
and there is a signature block (which is clearly identified as such)
affixed at the end of the body of the message.


- -dd
                                                   ( . )
                                                     |
__Dan Dillon________________________________________/|\___KD6FPX______
Mailto://[e-mail]    http://www.engr.csulb.edu/~ddillon/
PGP Public Key: http://www.engr.csulb.edu/~ddillon/ddillon_pub_key.asc
PGP Fingerprint   =>   02 A6 07 34 22 80 53 09 8C 1E 5E 15 1A B4 43 1F
Please:      No unsolicited E-mail avertising or religious propaganda.

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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Gudgel)
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cathryn ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >PGP makes for a convenient way to verify that the originator of a message
: >is in fact the person who affixed their call sign to it.  It could be

How 'bout transmitter fingerprinting, also, for this application ?
Bob K7IQ




From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Timothy J Salo)
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In article <[e-mail]>, Bob Gudgel <[e-mail]> wrote:
>cathryn ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: >PGP makes for a convenient way to verify that the originator of a message
>: >is in fact the person who affixed their call sign to it.  It could be
>
>How 'bout transmitter fingerprinting, also, for this application ?

At the risk of appearing excessively pedantic, I might observe that:

-       transmitter fingerprinting identifies the transmitter, while
        strong authentication identifies the originating person; and

-       there are [sort of, and will be good] good ways to distribute
        information about authentication keys, while I haven't heard
        of a good, indexed database of transmitter fingerprints.

        .       (A lot of people are working building infrastructures
                to distribute, for example, public PGP keys.  Interesting
                issues include: How do you know that a particular public
                key _really_ is associated with a specific person? or,
                How do I know that I _really_ received good information
                from what I think is a trusted source of information?)

        .       (Perhaps, constructing a database of transmitter
                fingerprints would make a good research topic for someone.)

-tjs
AB0DO


-


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From: [e-mail] (cathryn)
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>How 'bout transmitter fingerprinting, also, for this application ?
>Bob K7IQ

Maybe, though my superstition would be that having a remote base
automatically verify a transmitter fingerprint is a pretty sticky
problem.  Like you'd have to filter out noise an other stuff.  Take
into account weird propagation effects.  And, what if a legit user
replaces a transister somewhere.

Seems with a laptop or small pc at a remote sight, you could write a
program that reads in the data from the TNC or whatever, then
execs out to call PGP to verify the signature.  It just means a
bit more hassle on both ends to make the proper signature.

(Though I'm a programmer, so I tend to see programming solutions as
feasible and analog solutions as tricky -- I do think this IS actually
the case here.)



From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (cathryn)
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>It seems that, given strong authentication (e.g., PGP or DSS) and an
>assertion by the licensed originator that the message conforms to
>Part 97 (perhaps a new MIME spec), one could start to argue for a rule change
.

I think this would really useful.  We modify the rules so for unsigned
traffic the rules remain the same.  But, for traffic signed with a key
verified at, like, an ARRL/TAPR key database, and clearly marked as being
for distribution by ham radio by the originator, then the originating
call would be responsible for the content.

Hams would have to be responsible for keeping their private keys secret.
That's because if someone uploaded child pornography to the system with
their key, then they would be liable.  If someone consistently abuses the
system, we pull their call from the database and then they can no longer
send any packet traffic.  Neat.

This would fix the unworkable rule that every call of every packet box
along a chain is responsible for the content of every message.  This
makes every packet BBS operator liable, I think, in a way that's
completely unreasonable.  I think it
stifles the development of packet.




From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
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In article <[e-mail]> cathryn@jung
levision.junglevision.com (cathryn) writes:
>
>This would fix the unworkable rule that every call of every packet box
>along a chain is responsible for the content of every message.  This
>makes every packet BBS operator liable, I think, in a way that's
>completely unreasonable.  I think it
>stifles the development of packet.

The FCC did change that rule. Now only the originating station
and the *first* forwarding station are liable for the content
of a message. *And* the rule says that if the first forwarding
station uses a method of authentication for the originator, the
burden for content is lifted from the first forwarding station.
Thus we seem to have the rule in place that we need.

Gary

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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:42 1996
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From: Ryan Workman <[e-mail]>
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I have the following items for sale:

Kenwood TS-450s/at
     - Digital HF Rig with built in antenna tuner
     - Never Tx with rig
     - Must Sell $950 or BO

Cushcraft R - 7 Vertical Antenna
    - 10 - 40 m
    - Must Sell $150 or bo


 Need more info or to make an offer email me at :
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 More info and specs can be seen at:
    Http://www.oceab.ciyt.k12.nj.us/stu/1998/rworkman/radio

    Ryan Workman, KB2OOP
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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:56:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (J. Miner)
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Jason,

At the CMD: type PBBS 15  That will increase it to 15K.  That should hold a
little more.  If you are looking for more space for about $30 you can get the
128K Memory chip and increase the mail box to over a 100K.

73 de Jon N2XFZ


In article <599a4h$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Jason Baack) wrote:
>Hello, (again for some I am sure)
>I was wondering if it was possible to increase the measly 5K size of the
KPC-3
>mailbox.  Talk about tiny.. two or three messages and a set of keplerian
>elements and she is full!
>
>What can I do?
>
>Jason   N1RWY


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Hello, (again for some I am sure)
I was wondering if it was possible to increase the measly 5K size of the KPC-3

mailbox.  Talk about tiny.. two or three messages and a set of keplerian
elements and she is full!

What can I do?

Jason   N1RWY


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>>I was wondering if it was possible to increase the measly 5K size of the KPC
-3
>>mailbox.  Talk about tiny.. two or three messages and a set of keplerian
>>elements and she is full!
>>
>>What can I do?
>>
>>Jason   N1RWY
>
>You must be running several nodes as the 32K chip can handle 1 node and aroun
d
>20K for a mail box. I have the 128K chip, which gives a 100K mailbox. You can

>also get as much as 512K for memory in the KPC-3.

I have mine set up with no nodes and have 25k! But I found a better way to go!
I use Winpack. So I no longer worry about mailbox size as its my whole
harddisk!

73's from
Benjamin Blavat, [e-mail]
webphone, PGPhone


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re F6FBB VER 5.15 PACKET BBS Software

Does anyone have experience with getting this combination to work, I manage to
 get it to run
for a little while, but it closes the OS/2 Dos session without warning! I am u
sing ESS1.11
as a comm driver, I read somewhere that I need the ESSKAM driver for the KAM 9
612 TNC but haven't
been able to find it anywhere!

Regards
Paul VK3YWD
[e-mail]


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for sale,EIMAC 4-1000-A, bast offer



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From: [e-mail] (Ed Gallup)
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   FOR SALE:    Kantronics KAM Plus TNC with version  6.1 software.  Like new,

no scratches, and never had any problems.  Includes HF and VHF radio interface

cables,  AC power supply, and manuals.   $175.00  FIRM.  and I will ship COD

  The only difference between the above unit and a current unit ($350) with
version 8.0 is  G-TOR and  GPS interface.  Version 8.0 ROM may be obtained
from Kantronics for $39.95 plus shipping.

  Ed    W7DXZ   (formerly WB6SAT)   [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Johnathon Whale)
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Organization: Concentric Internet Services
Summary:
Keywords:

For Sale:
*RARE* Tram Factory Service Manuals (Gone out of business now) for Tram
 Citizen Band Radios  (CB   SSB/AM)
These manuals include:
o  Tune Up Procedures
o  Schematics
o  Photos of the PC Boards
o  Alignment procedures
o  Testing
The manuals are 10 to 20 pages long. In SUPERB condition!
No soiled, roughed, or dogeared pages. The booklet is stapled.
        Model             Price
          XL               $25
          XL5              $30
          DIAMOND 40       $40
          DIAMOND 60       $50
    D201 (Base unit)       $10
Please respond via email to [e-mail] or call my machine
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From: Mike <[e-mail]>
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Packet system is fully functional, and includes a Macintosh
computers, a TNC, a DC power supply and a two-meter FM radio.  Software
and manuals are included.

    --------  Package for a total of  $400.00  ---------
- Mac Plus 2 Meg memory and built-in 40 meg hard drive
        (with keyboard and Kensington trackball)
- AEA PK-232 MBX TNC unit
- KDK 2033 (25 watts) 2 meter FM tranceiver
- "Azden" DC power supply (a look-alike copy)
- All cables for direct plug-in

------  If the Mac is not needed, the price is $275.00  -------

     The Azden radio is modified for direct connection to the AEA packet
system.

     All cabling is clearly marked, and included.

     All related manuals are included for this packet system.  All
modifications are clearly documented.

     The front panel VOLUME control is independent of the packet's audio
input.

     The two-meter radio is rated at 25 watts.  It uses solid-state
TX-RX switching, so the overall system is silent in operation, as the
packet system works.

     The PK-232 MBX has the most recent ROM upgrade.  (I believe the
date is early 1996...)

     These units are at my home, in Hampton, Minnesota, USA.  The prices
reflect US dollars, and do not include shipping.

     Thank you!  -Mike  K0JTA


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Investigating getting a FT290 or 790 and was wondering if either of these
can be modified for 9600bd packet.  If so can someone point me in the right
direction...

Thanks and 73
de Bob, N3FTU


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From: [e-mail] (Karen Tadewosyan)
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  Bob,

  this is info about 9600 bps mods for FT290/790 from my acrhive.
  I used it some time ago and it run well.
  I hope it will be usefull for you.

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MODEM @WW        de:DL6DBN 23.09.90 07:50   0   1568 Bytes
FT290/790RII mods. PSK/9k6
*** Bulletin-ID: 229008DB0SGL ***

900922/0911z DK0MWX, 900922/0714z DB0SGL
de DL6DBN @ DB0SGL

How to modify YAESU FT-290 RII and FT-790RII
for 1200 BpS PSK and 9600 BpS FSK

As you know, for 1200 BpS PSK/FM a direct injektion of the signal into the
FM-varicap is recommended and for 9600 BpS FSK necessary. For 9600 BpS you
will need the FM-discriminator output.

Due to SM-Technology the following modifications are not easy to manage.
FT-790RII in ()

The FM-discriminator output is at pin 9 of Q4001 (Q402) MC3357P. Use a
shielded cable to connect this pin with your 9k6-modem input. The IF-
bandwidth of CF01 (CF01) CFW455F seems to be to small for very good
results, so I recommend to exchange it with a CFW455D. With good RF-
strength and proper tuning the CFW455F can fit as well.

The more complicate modification is the injection point. Inject your TX-
signal below the main unit where R30124, C30120 and C30126 (R30117, C30117
and C30124) come together (all SMD). Is it necessary to say, use a shielded
cable? As long as no other AF from the tone unit or the microphon reaches
this point you must not cut any connections. But adjust your FM-deviation.

I made this changes in both radio sets and had already good contacts via
UoSAT-OSCAR 14. So good luck and success.

73 Frank, DL6DBN @ DB0SGL
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From: "Tom Carrubba" <[e-mail]>
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Amateur General Classes -Lindenhurst

Great South Bay Amateur Radio Club Amateur Radio Classes

GENERAL THEORY CLASSES -

The Great South Bay ARC has scheduled Advanced classes beginning
on Saturday January 11, 1997.  Classes start at 10:00 AM and
will continue to 12:00 NOON.

The class instructor is Walter Wenzel KA2RGI.

Classes are FREE. All students are required to have the ARRL
General Class Study manual (2nd edition good through June 30, 1998).
Available from the ARRL, 225 Main St., Newington CT 06111.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

All classes are located in the basement of Babylon Town Hall,
200 E. Sunrise HWY, Lindenhurst NY in the Emergency Operations Center
(ARES/RACES Room), access is gained via the door at the bottom of the
stairs at the rear of Town Hall.

If you are interested in attending a class or you know someone who is,
contact Walter Wenzel KA2RGI [phone] for additional information
or just come on down to class.

Information is also available during the GSBARC 2 meter info net every
Monday evening at 7:00 pm on the WB2FKZ repeater, 146.685 -600 4Z(136.5)
PL required. You may also write to:

GSBARC
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Happy Holidays,
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Hartzell)
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Just curious about these two and how hams are using them.  I understand
the principle, but I was wondering how an interface between the GPS
receiver and the packet modem would work.

Do the GPS receivers have an RS-232 output on them or something?  Which
ones?  What software would I need to run in order for this to work?

I see that the latest version of the Kamtronics KAM has support for a GPS
reciever.  What does this mean?

Thanks-Dave  N0TGD



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Dave Hartzell <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<59bu06$[e-mail]>...
> Just curious about these two and how hams are using them.  I understand
> the principle, but I was wondering how an interface between the GPS
> receiver and the packet modem would work.
>
> Do the GPS receivers have an RS-232 output on them or something?  Which
> ones?  What software would I need to run in order for this to work?
>
> I see that the latest version of the Kamtronics KAM has support for a GPS

> reciever.  What does this mean?
>
> Thanks-Dave  N0TGD
>
>

Dave:

The interface can work several ways - some TNCs support the GPS output
format NMEA (I think I'm remembering that write) - but most GPS receivers
will output RS232 if they have output capabilities.  The difficulty is that
usually the GPS output is the only output you can send to the TNC (it's in
GPS mode and is waiting for the GPS receiver to output solutions to it),
the TNCs that are advertised to support GPS usually have a second port for
the GPS, keeping the original port available for "regular" packet.

This setup is commonly implemented in the high altitude balloon groups -
which is were I've had my experience with it - if you're email is South
Dakota State Univ. there is a balloon group associated with the space grant
consortium at the university - and I think it's tapped into some of the
local hams - you might also want to check with them.

Hope this is helpful

Darby Cooper
KB0VFE


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From: Mike McAmis
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I'm adding a new feature to my Windows logging/packet system
XMLog.  If you double click on a frequency displayed in the
packet window (e.g. a PacketCluster DX spot) I set the
appropriate mode/frequency for the rig.

I've got it working for my Kenwood 950 but I want to add
support for other radios.  Can anyone give me the commands
and the port setup for other radios?  For example, the 950
wants the serial port set to 4800 baud, 8 data bits, 1 stop
bit, even parity.  Commands to set the radio to 14.350 USB
would be:

FA00014350000;    and
MD2;

I assume (hope) that Kenwood radios other than the 950 use
these same commands.

XMLog is freeware available at http://franklin.ptgi.com

Mike McAmis - W1ECT (ex-WA3ECT)

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From: [e-mail] (Don Murray AE4BR)
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Subject: Help wiring up my Kantronics 9612. Kenwood TM733a for one radio operation
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Hello and thanks for reading this..

I am in need of help setting up my Kantronics 9612, and TM733a for one radio
operation.  I am not even sure if this is possible.  What I would like to do i
s
wire the radio and TNC so that I can get both 1200 and 9600 baud operation on
the single 733.

I would also appreaciate if if someone could confirm my wiring by posting the
output pin assignment for the TM733 in regards to the 9600 baud port of the
9612 and the 1200 port of the 9612.

Anyone else handling both ports thru one radio?? Is it even possible.  The 961
2
has a "oneradio" setting.  But the manual doesn't go into detail about it.

Any and all help will be greatly appreciated




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From: [e-mail] (Gareth Rowlands)
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Subject: Re: Help wiring up my Kantronics 9612. Kenwood TM733a for one radio operation
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In message <58rhpr$[e-mail]> Don Murray AE4BR wrote:

> What I would like to do is wire the radio and TNC so that I can get both
> 1200 and 9600 baud operation on the single 733.

> Anyone else handling both ports thru one radio?? Is it even possible.  The
> 9612 has a "oneradio" setting.  But the manual doesn't go into detail about
> it.

We is, with an IC281H.  Receive audio from the Discriminator is sent to the
9600 rx port, and normal "speaker" audio is fed to the 1200.  The fun is
with the tx audio.  On both of the ports we have set the level "high"
and fed tx audio in parallel to the varactor.  This does mean that the 1200
baud tones are not pre-emphasised, but even the moaning users have not
yet noticed to complain about it.

The PTT lines for both ports got paralleled too.

> I would also appreaciate if if someone could confirm my wiring by posting th
e
> output pin assignment for the TM733 in regards to the 9600 baud port of the
> 9612 and the 1200 port of the 9612.

Sorry, can't help here.

Cheers,

Gareth.

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From: [e-mail] (Karl Medcalf (WK5M))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Help wiring up my Kantronics 9612. Kenwood TM733a for one radio operation
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:36:55 GMT
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[e-mail] (sg) wrote:

>I am not sure about the kantronics but I found I didn't have much luck
>wiring both for the AEA DSP-232 . I got bleeding rf on the 440 side when
>transmitting on 2m. during the test run with my TM-733a. 73's steve, wi0e



>In article <58rhpr$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>(Don Murray AE4BR) wrote:

>> Hello and thanks for reading this..
>>
>> I am in need of help setting up my Kantronics 9612, and TM733a for one radi
o
>> operation.  I am not even sure if this is possible.  What I would like to
>do is
>> wire the radio and TNC so that I can get both 1200 and 9600 baud operation
on
>> the single 733.
>>
>> I would also appreaciate if if someone could confirm my wiring by posting t
he
>> output pin assignment for the TM733 in regards to the 9600 baud port of the

>> 9612 and the 1200 port of the 9612.
>>
>> Anyone else handling both ports thru one radio?? Is it even possible.
>The 9612
>> has a "oneradio" setting.  But the manual doesn't go into detail about it.

>>
>> Any and all help will be greatly appreciated

>--
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Actually the KPC-9612 will work well with ONERADIO ON using the
TM-733. Simply connect the transmit audio (TXA) from both the 1200 and
9600 ports of the KPC-9612 together. Connect both receive inputs
together, both PTT lines, and both grounds. These connect to the
TM-733 on the mini-din connector. The receive signal from the TM-733
should be from the 9600 baud receive pin, NOT from the 1200 baud pin.
Be sure the radio is set for 9600 baud.

Also set the CD command to SOFTWARE in the KPC-9612, and adjust the
drive level from BOTH ports to achieve approximatelly 3 kHz deviation.


73, Karl                Internet: [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (sg)
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Subject: Re: Help wiring up my Kantronics 9612. Kenwood TM733a for one radio operation
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I am not sure about the kantronics but I found I didn't have much luck
wiring both for the AEA DSP-232 . I got bleeding rf on the 440 side when
transmitting on 2m. during the test run with my TM-733a. 73's steve, wi0e



In article <58rhpr$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Don Murray AE4BR) wrote:

> Hello and thanks for reading this..
>
> I am in need of help setting up my Kantronics 9612, and TM733a for one radio

> operation.  I am not even sure if this is possible.  What I would like to
do is
> wire the radio and TNC so that I can get both 1200 and 9600 baud operation o
n
> the single 733.
>
> I would also appreaciate if if someone could confirm my wiring by posting th
e
> output pin assignment for the TM733 in regards to the 9600 baud port of the
> 9612 and the 1200 port of the 9612.
>
> Anyone else handling both ports thru one radio?? Is it even possible.
The 9612
> has a "oneradio" setting.  But the manual doesn't go into detail about it.
>
> Any and all help will be greatly appreciated

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From: [e-mail]
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In article <597hnj$3jl$[e-mail]>, david johnson
<[e-mail]> writes:

>I have a Texas Instrument laptop running windows 3.11. Problem
>with baycom is L2 is not running, that is I do not get the
>flashing icon in the upper right hand of the screen as
>mentioned in the text files. Radio is an ICOM ht, it transmits
>and receives ok hooked to the baycom but will not connect. Can
>anyone help with suggestions. My pk232 works fine on this radio
>and computer. Thanks David VA3MRJ
>
>

If you're running windows, don't expect a baycom modem to run properly.
So far I've not heard of anyone successfully getting baycom modems to
function properly if Windows 3.1, win95, os/2, Linux, or WINDOWS NT is
running as the software for the baycom requires the computer to constantly
monitor a port for changes, and then translate it.  Be grateful you have
the PK232, but if you're determined to have something to carry around, the
TINY 2 from PACCOM, or the KPC-3 from kantronics are much better choices,
and don't produce errors like trying to use a baycom modem with an
operating system or two that demand most of the computer's attention.  In
other words, unless you find a program written to work under windows using
the baycom software, good luck.  I also remember one chap claiming that he
had JNOS, the tcp/ip software running a baycom modem under win95, but he
never explained how he got it to work, and I can't for the life of me
remember his call.

73 de n8blk/3   -art clemons-


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From: Ron Giuntini <rong@204.160.88.10>
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Here is what I just set up:
IBM PC computer rescued from a dumpster. 8088 that nobody wants
anymore..I put a thrown away 40 meg hard drive in it..Somebody gave me an
original IBM monitor that was monochrome. Total cost for the computer: 0
Using a 19 year old Kenwood TR7600 2M radio that I have had since new.
Bought a PK88 TNC for 75.00
Using a Isopole antenna that I had laying around for the last 3 years
doing nothing.
Total additional cost; 75.00
The real cost is the time I invest into the project...For instance, I
spent all day today putting the antenna up and working out a couple of
problems in the TNC interface with the computer and found a bad connector
on the TNC cable. Finally at about 9PM at night the project I started at
9AM was up and running...Now I have to learn how it works...



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From: "Stan Huntting" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: How to send umlauts with AEA Log Windows?
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I'm posting this for Mark, W0BG (ex-WK0V), who has no access to this
newsgroup. The reply-To address is Mark's.

Mark has an AEA PK-232 and uses AEA Log Windows in Windows 95. Mark has
installed the ability to change keyboards in Windows 95 and has immediate
access to umlauts and other accented characters, but they don't seem to
work with his Log Windows/PK-232.

The umlaut will appear on his Log Windows screen, but is always translated
to some other character before it reaches its destination - even when he
just sends a test message to himself. Messages from his packet radio
correspondents in Europe with special characters come through and are
displayed in Log Windows without a hitch.

In the absence of any tech support from AEA I am posting this appeal for
help for Mark here. Can you shed any light on what is happening here and/or
how to send the umlauts?

Thanks es vy 73,

Stan
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Stan Huntting wrote:
>
> I'm posting this for Mark, W0BG (ex-WK0V), who has no access to this
> newsgroup. The reply-To address is Mark's.
>
> Mark has an AEA PK-232 and uses AEA Log Windows in Windows 95. Mark has
> installed the ability to change keyboards in Windows 95 and has immediate
> access to umlauts and other accented characters, but they don't seem to
> work with his Log Windows/PK-232.
>
> The umlaut will appear on his Log Windows screen, but is always translated
> to some other character before it reaches its destination - even when he
> just sends a test message to himself. Messages from his packet radio
> correspondents in Europe with special characters come through and are
> displayed in Log Windows without a hitch.
>
> In the absence of any tech support from AEA I am posting this appeal for
> help for Mark here. Can you shed any light on what is happening here and/or
> how to send the umlauts?
>
> Thanks es vy 73,
>
> Stan
> ----------------------------------------------
> Stan Huntting,    KF0IA
> Email:            [e-mail]
> Fax:              303 444 2314
> KaWin home page:  http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/
> Postal address:   4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd.,
>                   Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA

I don't know how AEA implements umlauts, but you might try turning off
huffman compression since the umlauts (in IBM) are above ascii 127. Also
make sure your serial interface is 8-bit.



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From: Dio <[e-mail]>
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Subject: IC2350 & KPC9612
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 17:45:19 -0800
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Has anyone configured the 9612 & 2350?

Do you take the af from the mod/mike connector or from the back of the
2350?

Any  mods available to drop the 2350 onto the 9.6k side?

73 DE KE6WEO

--Dio
Beacher Tool & Die
(A Hughe Jorgen Company)
1106 2nd St.
Suite 316
Encinitas, CA. 92024


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (jib)
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Below I listed a bunch of radio stations or web pages that broadcast over
the Internet, these stations all use Xing Streamworks which is audio
streaming software.  This means that when you go to a web site you can
hear whatever they are broadcasting.  The big difference with │streaming
audio▓ is you don╣t wait for it to download.  Instead you can hear it play
as they are sending it (realtime).

What this means (which is the cool part), is you can open another browser
window on top of the one that is open.  Then you can go on surfing to
other websites, while listening to that web radio station.  Enjoy.

The software you need is free, Xing Streamworks Player 2.0.  You can
download it at http://www.xingtech.com/sw_now.html

1) WEFX - The Fox, classic rock
http://www.internetwork.com/radio2.htm

2) NetRadio Network, all sorts of stuff
http://www.netradio.net

3) WeeklyWeb 50, top 50
http://www.web50.com

4) Junior Dub╣s Reggae page
http://www.internetwork.com/jrdub.htm

5) College Radio Network
http://www.internetwork.com/crn/crn.htm

6) First Radio Internet
http://www.firstradio.com/

7) WFAS News/Talk
http://www.internetwork.com/radio1.htm

8) The Edge 93.7
Minnesota's New Rock Alternative
http://www.937edge.com/live/index.html

9) KPIG Radio Online -Country/Rock/Funk/Humor
Continuous LIVE CyberPork programming from Santa Cruz, CA
http://www.kpig.com/

10) Radio Star Radio-A live radio station for radio stations
http://www.newradiostar.com/



From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: IP adress cordinator for MN
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Hello everyone!

I have setup a packet <--> to internet gateway here and I'm intrested in
getting TCP/IP going in my community. So I guess I need a couple of IP ( the
wormhole isn't at my QTH so I'll need more then one ). So my question is: Who
is the Minnesota IP cordinator? Can they be reached via e-mail?

Thanks and 73's de
Jim Jefferson KB0THN
http://www.luminet.net/~cjeffers/

P.S.   Please respond via e-mail as I don't have time to get on usenet every
day.


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:11 1996
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From: Steve Sampson <[e-mail]>
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To: Jim <[e-mail]>

Jim wrote:
>
> Hello everyone!
>
> I have setup a packet <--> to internet gateway here and I'm intrested in
> getting TCP/IP going in my community. So I guess I need a couple of IP ( the
> wormhole isn't at my QTH so I'll need more then one ). So my question is: Wh
o
> is the Minnesota IP cordinator? Can they be reached via e-mail?
>

The IP address Coordinators are kept up to date in this file:

ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/amprnets

It shows Bob Brose, N0QBJ as the address coordinator.

www.qrz.com doesn't show an email address.

www.switchboard.com shows:

Brose, Robert E II   974 Hampden Ave, Saint Paul, MN 55114-1108
            Phone: [phone]

Don't know if he wants to be called at home.

Steve


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From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
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Minnesota coordinator is

| Robert E. Brose II / N0QBJ / [e-mail]     |
|  WWW: http://www.jriver.com/~bob/               |
| home: [e-mail]   / CIS 72067,3021     |
| TC^3 CoCo3 OS9 BBS 612-646-6593 300-9600 24 hrs |



From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tony Molina)
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Subject: Is this interference?
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In the ongoing saga of my still not-working sat tv setup (Mpeg-2 digital on
Asiasat-2, 4000Mhz - *randomly* breaking up and losing signal).

Previously I'd been convinced that the problem was due to some terrestrial
interference, probably airport radar, but I no longer believe this. For the
following reasons:

1. I see no conclusive evidence that the closest airports transmit on either
4000Mhz or the Intermediate Frequency 1150Mhz.

2.  I know of at least 3 other families with identical setups to mine who live
 a
lot closer to both the airports and are NOT experiencing any interference.

3. I can't find any microwave data links (Telstra or other) in the area that
could cause a problem. And if there was, I don't think it would appear in this
random fashion.

4. On the occasions that the problem rears its ugly head and we lose the EBB
channels, I take a tv set & receivers out to the dish and use a short direct
cable to the LNB (so there is no cable loss etc). When I unplug the digital
receiver and immediately plug in an analogue one and go to CCTV4 at IF1183Mhz
also on As-2, the picture is nearly perfect. Just a few white sparkles but
nothing to worry about. Immediately plug the digital back in and either the
picture is badly breaking up with checkerboard patterns and squeaks, or the
receiver cannot even lock on well enough to get anything. ie. continuously sho
ws
"Searching default frequency at 4000Mhz" or "No Signal".

The frequency 1183Mhz is very close to the digital EBB on 1150Mhz. I would
expect, and Satfacts July '96 confirms this, that if there was terrestrial
interference to affect my digital channels on 1150Mhz, there would also be
noticeable interference on 1183Mhz.

Actually, Satfacts July '96 has a few good articles on digital sat tv
troubleshooting, specifically on the EBB on As-2. It's a pity that I am new to
this field (as a recent user) and a lot of what I read goes over my head at th
is
stage. I do believe however that the problem with my installation has more to
do
with the high bit-error-rates mentioned in the articles caused by at this stag
e
unknown factors but NOT simply terrestrial interference. Perhaps I'm wrong.



If anybody has any comments or advice on any of the above I'd love to hear the
m.

What sort of special problems does digital satellite reception have over
analogue?

Thanks,

= Tony =




 ,-._|\   Melbourne, AUSTRALIA
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From: [e-mail] (Tony Molina)
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In the ongoing saga of my still not-working sat tv setup (Mpeg-2 digital on
Asiasat-2, 4000Mhz - *randomly* breaking up and losing signal).

Previously I'd been convinced that the problem was due to some terrestrial
interference, probably airport radar, but I no longer believe this. For the
following reasons:

1. I see no conclusive evidence that the closest airports transmit on either
4000Mhz or the Intermediate Frequency 1150Mhz.

2.  I know of at least 3 other families with identical setups to mine who live
 a
lot closer to both the airports and are NOT experiencing any interference.

3. I can't find any microwave data links (Telstra or other) in the area that
could cause a problem. And if there was, I don't think it would appear in this
random fashion.

4. On the occasions that the problem rears its ugly head and we lose the EBB
channels, I take a tv set & receivers out to the dish and use a short direct
cable to the LNB (so there is no cable loss etc). When I unplug the digital
receiver and immediately plug in an analogue one and go to CCTV4 at IF1183Mhz
also on As-2, the picture is nearly perfect. Just a few white sparkles but
nothing to worry about. Immediately plug the digital back in and either the
picture is badly breaking up with checkerboard patterns and squeaks, or the
receiver cannot even lock on well enough to get anything. ie. continuously sho
ws
"Searching default frequency at 4000Mhz" or "No Signal".

The frequency 1183Mhz is very close to the digital EBB on 1150Mhz. I would
expect, and Satfacts July '96 confirms this, that if there was terrestrial
interference to affect my digital channels on 1150Mhz, there would also be
noticeable interference on 1183Mhz.

Actually, Satfacts July '96 has a few good articles on digital sat tv
troubleshooting, specifically on the EBB on As-2. It's a pity that I am new to
this field (as a recent user) and a lot of what I read goes over my head at th
is
stage. I do believe however that the problem with my installation has more to
do
with the high bit-error-rates mentioned in the articles caused by at this stag
e
unknown factors but NOT simply terrestrial interference. Perhaps I'm wrong.



If anybody has any comments or advice on any of the above I'd love to hear the
m.

What sort of special problems does digital satellite reception have over
analogue?

Thanks,

= Tony =





-** Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.  Inside of a dog, it's
too dark to read. **


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From: [e-mail]
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 96 15:34:57 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>James McCloskey wrote:
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone out there has any comments, good or bad
>> about KaGold software for my Kam plus Tnc. Any comments will be
>> appreciated. 73 de Jim, KE3OP ..._._
>
>Jim, Before you lay out your hard earned cash I would investigate all
>the
>programs that are out there.  There are several and all have thier own
>merrits.  I personally suggest XP-WIN by KF7XP ... he has a homepage
>and you can download a demo which will allow you 100 uses before it will
>no longer work.

   Good advise but I will add that KAGold is an EXCELLENT packet program. Get
the demo and try it out, I think you will really like it.

Tom


   Tom Randall            Amateur Radio - KB2SMS
   [e-mail]       Mt. Beacon Amateur Radio Club / ARRL / 10-10
                          Member: AAVSO Solar Division

   Opinions herein are mine and may not be that of MHV.NET!


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeff WA4EGT)
Subject: RE: KaGold
Date: 11 Dec 96 18:22:20 -0800
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On Monday, Dec 9, 1996, Jim wrote:

"I was wondering if anyone out there has any comments, good or bad
about KaGold software for my Kam plus Tnc. Any comments will be
appreciated. 73 de Jim, KE3OP ..._._"

Jim,

I hope it's okay with the other participants of the forum if I take
uour "Any comments will be appreciated" invite.

KaGOLD is a DOS based program, but designed to multitask in Windows,
OS/2, etc. Many users run it in Windows 95. One of the advantages of
running any DOS program in Windows (assuming it is well-behaved) is
that when it is resized, it uses a different font rather than
presenting the user with a partial screen and scroll-bars.
Unfortunately, Microsoft chose to make Windows fully graphical, and
to date, there are no reasonable algorithms for either reducing a
pixel oriented graphic in size, or making it larger, without creating
distortions in the image.

DOS apps in Windows use FONTS, and when the user resizes the
application, Windows renders the screen using a different font (if
the properties are properly set). As a result, it is possible to run
several DOS apps, on one screen, and have the ENTIRE app visible, not
just a portion of it. Basically, although Windows can multitask the
CPU and other resources, it does a relatively poor job of
multitasking the screen due to the inability to resize multiple
winapps that are all basically intended to run
full-screen/full-window.

Also, KaGOLD is dual port, but runs the KPC-3 in single port mode. It
also supports all of the text modes (not fax -- which is better when
viewed with a multi-level gray scale program anyway). Kantronics has
been including a copy of KaGOLD testdrive version 9 with their tncs,
doing this since last March as I understand it.

If you have any specific questions, you can write to me:

        [e-mail]

Or visit the web page: http://interflex.com

or call [phone] during the weekdays, 9am to 4pm PST.

Jeff, WA4EGT
InterFlex Systems


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From: [e-mail] (G.R. "Scott" Cundiff)
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:>James McCloskey wrote:
:>>
:>> I was wondering if anyone out there has any comments, good or bad
:>> about KaGold software for my Kam plus Tnc. Any comments will be
:>> appreciated. 73 de Jim, KE3OP ..._._

Tom Randall replied...
:   Good advise but I will add that KAGold is an EXCELLENT packet program. Get

:the demo and try it out, I think you will really like it.
:

James,
There are several fine packet programs out there, but I must agree with Tom -
KaGold is a very good program.  I tried every program I could get my hands on,

but once I tried KaGold, I decided my search was over.

--Scott


G.R. "Scott" Cundiff
Borger, Texas
email: [e-mail]
amateur radio: N5ASD@N5ASD.#WTX.TX.USA.NOAM


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pheezer)
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James,


I would agree - get XPWare for Windows.  Unlike KaGold, it is using the latest
programming technology.  Sure, KaGold will work in Windows 95, but since it is
 a
16-bit application, special memory must be set aside for it.

Also - KaGold hasn't been upgraded for YEARS.


Pheezer


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[e-mail] (Bob Novak) wrote:

>On Tue, 10 Dec 1996 14:53:57 GMT, RJ Scott <[e-mail]>
>wrote:
>
>>James McCloskey wrote:
>>>
>>> I was wondering if anyone out there has any comments, good or bad
>>> about KaGold software for my Kam plus Tnc. Any comments will be
>>> appreciated. 73 de Jim, KE3OP ..._._
>>
>Hello Jim...
>
>I have tried most of the software available and KaGold is, in my
>opinion, the best around.  Easy to install, has the most features and
>great support !
>
>Bob Novak
>http://www.propilot.com

I have to agree with Bob, When I was first introduced to
packet, I was told to use KaGold, and it was the best advice
I was ever given. Easy to install, easiy to use and the best I
have ever seen.. As a matter of fact Bob gave it to me..




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>>Also - KaGold hasn't been upgraded for YEARS.

You may retract this false allegation. KaGOLD's authors are a couple of
the most responsive you'll ever meet - and their updates reflect that.

If you're not familiar with a product, don't slam it. If you like another
product, tout the heck out of it.

[e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KaGold
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 18:45:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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>>...I tried every program I could get
>>my hands on, but once I tried KaGold, I decided my search was over.

My sentiments exactly, Scott.

I was "brand new" to packet when I was searching for TNC software. The
beauty of KaGOLD is that it gets you up and running VERY quickly...then
you can "grow" into its many, many features as you progress.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clint Bradford, KE6LCS/KAF3359    909.681.6210 Voice    [e-mail]
ATTENTION to Details              909.681.6221 BBS        [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:24 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KaGold
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:13:31 -0500
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Brian Mileshosky, N5ZGT wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (Clint Bradford) wrote:
>
> >>>...I tried every program I could get
> >>>my hands on, but once I tried KaGold, I decided my search was over.
>
> >My sentiments exactly, Scott.
>
> >I was "brand new" to packet when I was searching for TNC software. The
> >beauty of KaGOLD is that it gets you up and running VERY quickly...then
> >you can "grow" into its many, many features as you progress.
>
> Hi Guys,
>   I downloaded the trial version about 6 months ago and tred it on my
> KAM+ (Yes, I downloaded the KA-Gold).  It seemed very basic compared
> to Pacterm (Program given out by Kantronics), but I decided to try it.
> Well, as soon as it started re-programing some of the parameters of my
> TNC by itself, I decided to quit the program.  I did...and something
> caused my TNC to lose all of its parameters...
>   That left a REAL bad taste in my mouth from this program.  Any
> advice? I might consider trying it again sometime soon.
> Happy Holidays & 73,
> Brian, N5ZGT
>
>
Yes Brian,
This is a "problem" that needs to be considered any time a person tries
a
different packet program.  I find this particularly true when starting
up APRS,
It changes a bunch of params that will mess up TPK or WinPacks' FBB auto
session
properties.
It would be wise to use the 'display' command and save the results in
order to
reset the old params.
73 Gene, WA4WBI


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Mileshosky, N5ZGT)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KaGold
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 20:41:55 GMT
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[e-mail] (Clint Bradford) wrote:


>>>...I tried every program I could get
>>>my hands on, but once I tried KaGold, I decided my search was over.

>My sentiments exactly, Scott.

>I was "brand new" to packet when I was searching for TNC software. The
>beauty of KaGOLD is that it gets you up and running VERY quickly...then
>you can "grow" into its many, many features as you progress.

Hi Guys,
  I downloaded the trial version about 6 months ago and tred it on my
KAM+ (Yes, I downloaded the KA-Gold).  It seemed very basic compared
to Pacterm (Program given out by Kantronics), but I decided to try it.
Well, as soon as it started re-programing some of the parameters of my
TNC by itself, I decided to quit the program.  I did...and something
caused my TNC to lose all of its parameters...
  That left a REAL bad taste in my mouth from this program.  Any
advice? I might consider trying it again sometime soon.
Happy Holidays & 73,
Brian, N5ZGT


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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jason Baack)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: KPC-3 mailforwarding script <BBSCONN>??
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 96 17:34:01 GMT
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Greetings all,
I am having a heck of a time tryiong to get my KPC-3
to autoforward mail from my mailbox to a bbs where it can get sent off.
Would anyone with a working script be kind enough to send a copy to me either
email or packet.
Thanks,   Jason  N1RWY
[e-mail]
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:27 1996
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From: Dave Hand <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Laptop hard drive needed
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 10:07:37 -0500
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If some one has a laptop hard drive available, maybe due to an upgrade
I am interested. My colledge student daughter's laptop drive was damaged
in a bike wreck.

Dave Hand WB4HYP
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Martin Rath)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Linux + BayCom + TNOS
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:58:59 GMT
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My question is : How does it works ???


thanks

Martin

Martin Rath
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/2565
[e-mail]
Ax25: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jose' Miguel Fonte)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Linux + BayCom + TNOS
Date: 16 Dec 1996 14:49:15 GMT
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Martin Rath ([e-mail]) wrote:
: My question is : How does it works ???

Hi Martin ,
Well  ,to put baycom working with Linux you must get the AX25-HOWTO (latest),
thats the best way to configure it !
Try kernel 2.0.14 and up , compile the kernel to support baycom module and
other options like SLIP , radio applications , etc ...
Then get the lastest ax25 utils and install them , atfer that you attach the
radio port and define the routing table .
In my script i have :

setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none (ttyS0 = COM1)
axattach /dev/bc0 baycom (baycom it's the port defined in /etc/ax25/axports)
ifconfig -i 44.158.38.4 sl0 (Don't know if it's correct but assign an ip to
                             the baycom port known for linux as sl0 )
route add -net 44.0.0.0 sl0 (This will route all 44.x packets to baycom)

You could do a better routing table but if you have a dedicated machine for
packet it will work ok ! :)

I had problems with my UARTS , so if you have an 16550A and Linux crashes at
axattach just try with other UARTS , I installed two more serial ports with
16450 Uarts and baycom now works fine ....

best of 73, Miguel ct1enq
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CT1ENQ (@CT1EDY.CTAV.PRT.EU) [e-mail] (AMPRnet) Linux Rules!


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:30 1996
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From: David HM Spector <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Looking for a certain packet article
Date: 11 Dec 1996 13:40:36 -0500
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Hi!

within the last 3-4 months, there was an article about the airline's
version of packet radio and how to decode its telemetry.
Unfortunately, I can't remember which magazine it was in (I think it
was 73.. but unlike the QSTs and CQs, I don't save those).

Does anyone else remember/have this article..?  If so, could you give
me a pointer to it..?

TIA.

David
N2BCA
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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (cRiTTa66)
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Subject: looking for information about 10ghz 2 mbyte radio modem
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KF4MYN
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Glenn Elmore)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: looking for information about 10ghz 2 mbyte radio modem
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KF4MYN ([e-mail]) wrote:


try

|--------------- N6GN's Higher Speed Packet WWW Page -------------------|
|                                                                       |
|       http://www.tapr.org/~n6gn/index.html                            |
|                                                                       |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|


Glenn n6gn


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:32 1996
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From: "lisa lowell" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: mfj 1282b starter kit for C-64/128 vic 20 for $5.00
Date: 20 Dec 1996 21:56:43 GMT
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can be used with the mfj 1278b

lisa lowell <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<01bbeed7$8d836b00$4321c9d0@default>...
> I have a starter kit for the mfj 1282b for the C-64/128 and Vic-20 comes
> with manuals, cable and software. $5.00 to cover shipping.
> If interested contact
> Lisa-ka0nno@
>
> [e-mail]
>


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:33 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: modification for 9k6 of the FT-530
Date: 20 Dec 96 18:32:07 GMT
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hello

I need info to modify the walky yaesu FT-530 to transmit and receive 9k6 bauds
.

that such operates the modification?

Thank you very much.

internet e-mail:  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:34 1996
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From: Bob Gordon <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Need a copy of YAPPB
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:18:47 -0800
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I'm trying to find a copy of YAPPB, this version will work under KISS
mode and BPQ.  If someone has it please e-mail it to me.

73 [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:35 1996
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From: "Tagus" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Need help for telemetry system
Date: 14 Dec 1996 23:22:07 GMT
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I'm a newbie on digital radio comm, but with some electronics and radio
background. I'm trying to build a telemetry-based data acquisition system
for my school, and I'd very much appreciate any help with Manufacturers
names, cool reference books, web links. Thanks.
Bernardo Silva e Carmo
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Julio Bravo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Need info about CAT commands.
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:12:13 GMT
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Hello. I need CAT commands for Yaesu, Kenwood and Icom transceivers.
Can you send me any info?
Thanks in advance.
Julio, EB4CUV.




From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jose' Miguel Fonte)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Net Node EPROM for TNC-2C
Date: 16 Dec 1996 15:02:42 GMT
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Alexander Ackermann ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hello to All,

: I've heard that there exists an EPROM for TNC-2C which contains Net-Node
: Software which makes it possible to build DIGIS with TNC and Transceiver
: only.
: Can anybody tell me from where to get such an EPROM or, much preferably,
: from where one can download the contents of than EPROM ?
: If YES, is there also a manual for that Software ?

        Hi,
        Firts you have to know wich kind of soft you'll be using ...
        Here in Portugal 80 % of our Packet Network his based on
        Net/Rom using TheNet , you can get the sources from a ftp site
        compile them and get a binary to put on the EPROM.
        After that you only need a radio to make a node in a certain
        place.
        If you want tcpip I would use X1J ...
        There are other kind of software but some need computer to work !

        You have many info from NORD><LINK , Baycom, Flexnet team in
        Germany !!! :)


: Greetings

        Merry Xmas !
        Miguel , ct1enq

--
Miguel, CT1ENQ
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Vesa Tervo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: NWQterm source code available
Date: 16 Dec 1996 15:00:20 +0200
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Keywords: NWQterm BPQ DXCluster

You can download the source code of NWQterm from
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3491/index.html

It is a packet radio terminal program for a BPQ node.
It features:

Listeng to DX cluster forward traffic and saying
the DX spots on a sound blaster compatible card.
Compressed download from a FBB bbs.

and probably more functions as I made this
program for my own use a couple of years ago.
As I am not so active on packet radio anymore,
I decided to give this source code (written in Turbo Pascal 7.0)
to the public domain.

73 de Wes OH3NWQ
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:38 1996
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From: Hugo Miguel Franco Lima <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Packet in SB16 ??? -help !!!
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 23:11:40 +0100
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I have just heard that it was possible to decode packet signal ham radio  in 3
00
bauds, 1200 bauds or 9600 bauds  in a sound blaster 16.

                Does anyone know whre can i find this software ???
        please e-mail me:  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Shawn Rutledge)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: re: Packet List - Arizona
Date: 13 Dec 96 02:35:44 GMT
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I just copied a map of nodes in Arizona and the domain.txt for this area
to my public ftp area at electron.goodnet.com/pub/packet/.  The map is
in WMF format - you can open it in Windows' clipboard or clipbook viewer
(I think) or import it into Corel or whatever.  Word can also import these
files.  Domain.txt is a list of Arizona TCP/IP packet systems intended for
use by NOS.  No guarantees it's totally up to date but it was a few
months ago.  If you succeed in accessing azgtwy.ampr.org from the
Internet (or if you're close enough to access it via packet) you can ftp
this stuff from there too.
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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:40 1996
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From: Ron Stordahl <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PACLEN & TheNet X1J4
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:24:25 -0600
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I have seen references to the significance of PACLEN, specifically that
on packets to be relayed by TheNet nodes that PACLEN should be limited
to 236 bytes.  The reason being that TheNet will not send any packets
longer than 256 bytes and that it uses up to 20 bytes for needed control
information, thus a user should limit himself to 236 bytes when sending
a packet so that TheNet node does not have to break the packet into two
parts to forward it.

This would only occur on large packets, such as BBS's would send between
themselves, in most cases.

Actually 236 bytes is probably higher than most users would set their
terminal program to in any case and BBS's might not be set that high
unless they have unusually reliable links.

Anyone care to shed more light on this topic?

Ron


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Winfield S. Heagy)
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Subject: Portable Packet??
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Hi,

I am thinking of trying to make a small, portable packet rig using
an HP48 as the terminal.  Does anyone have any experience with this?
I plan to use a 2m HT as the transmitter, and am looking for some
advice on a small, inexpensive TNC that will work with the HP48.
I am currently using a KPC-3, but would like something cheaper,
and possibly even smaller.  Any ideas?

Thanks...Win


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From: [e-mail] (Digna E. Eads)
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Subject: Re: Portable Packet??
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:10:01 GMT
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[e-mail] (Winfield S. Heagy) wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I am thinking of trying to make a small, portable packet rig using
>an HP48 as the terminal.  Does anyone have any experience with this?
>I plan to use a 2m HT as the transmitter, and am looking for some
>advice on a small, inexpensive TNC that will work with the HP48.
>I am currently using a KPC-3, but would like something cheaper,
>and possibly even smaller.  Any ideas?
>
>Thanks...Win
>
>
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Win,
You could look at the BayCom TNC's, or , there is one advertised in CQ
that is inside of a DB-25 RS-232 connector. Personally, I would stay
with what you presently have. I use a KPC-3, TI Extensia 515 Notebook
Pentium 100 computer & Icom HT for portable packet.
73's & Merry Christmas.
Bill


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From: [e-mail] (John E Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Portable Packet??
Date: 19 Dec 1996 20:59:42 GMT
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In article <597v4o$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Winfield S. Heagy) w
rites:
>Hi,
>
>I am thinking of trying to make a small, portable packet rig using
>an HP48 as the terminal.  Does anyone have any experience with this?
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have used the HP48 on packet. The display is small, 30 characters per
line, and only a few lines.

The software I tried truncated any line longer than the display width.
I solved this by setting the tnc line length to 30 characters. Still,
because of the small display, data flies by faster than can be read and
there is no way to scroll back to read it.

So, if you like those limitations, it works. If you find software that
allows scrolling, I would like to try it.

73,
John K7SII



From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Problems with SPIRIT-2 TNC
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <58gq7j$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Christoph Nad
ig) writes:
>I recently bought two Spirit-2 Tnc, Model Backbone (20MHz) from Paccom. They
>came with a small Monitor Test program burned into the EPROMS.
>Neither TNC run eith this Monitor program, the STA and CON LED's were slowly
>blinking randomly and on the TXD line of the RS-232 to the computer was a
>continouing signal, never stopping. It seemed to be just a simple clock.
>
>Then I tried it with the TAPR TNC-2 software version 1.1.8. The TNC's showed
>the very same behavior.
>The TNC's came with 70ns EPROM although there was dtated in the manual that
>the backbone model needs 55ns. May this be the reason?

That looks likely. The reciprocal of 20 MHz is 50ns, so it would appear
that even 55ns depends on the EPROM being a little faster than spec.
They usually are. Temporarily jumper it for a lower clock and see if
it works. If it does, that'll tell you that there are no gross problems
with the hardware. Then try some faster EPROMs. If it still doesn't work
at 20 MHz with the faster EPROMs, you may have another chip with sluggish
timing in there. Since the behavior is replicated in two units, however,
I'd tend to think it is the EPROMs.

Sounds like PacComm supplied the wrong EPROMs with your units. That
could have been a production mixup. Bang on Gwyn's head again and
try to get him to send you a new set. I don't have many complaints
about PacComm, but getting them to return a call or answer their
mail promptly is sometimes a problem. If you're persistent, you can
get results.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: PTC-II??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> Bob Lewis <[e-mail]> writes
:
>Gary Coffman wrote:
>> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Alex
Evonosky) writes:
>> >       Anybody familair with the PacCom PTC-II DSP unit?
>> >any pro's, cons??
>> >Please let me know.  Thank You.
>>
>> It is the same unit sold directly by SCS. It is a very high performance
>> HF system. But it has a very high performance price too. It works as
>> well as people are saying that it does, but there aren't many of them
>> in amateur hands (mainly I'd suggest because of the sticker shock).
>> There are something like 250 amateurs in the world who have them last
>> I heard. (A good proportion of them are reportedly going to non-amateur
>> customers.)
[snip]
>> If it also had Clover and GTOR support, I'd swallow my discomfort
>> with the price and buy one too. According to recent information,
>> the PTC-II now has a generic audio DSP filtering capability in
>> addition to its uses for digital data, so it can displace another
>> box in the clutter on the desk. And packet capability is a promised
>> future add-on (though that isn't very exciting to me, I've already
>> got packet well covered).
>
>The PTC-II packet boards are currently available at SCS.

This is good to know. I'd also add that I've just learned that there
are now about 1000 PTC-IIs in amateur hands. So usage is growing.

Gary

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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:46 1996
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From: P J Leach <[e-mail]>
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Gary Coffman wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]> Bob Lewis <[e-mail]> writ
es:
> >Gary Coffman wrote:
> >> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ale
x Evonosky) writes:
> >> >       Anybody familair with the PacCom PTC-II DSP unit?
> >> >any pro's, cons??
> >> >Please let me know.  Thank You.
> >>
> >> It is the same unit sold directly by SCS. It is a very high performance
> >> HF system. But it has a very high performance price too. It works as
> >> well as people are saying that it does, but there aren't many of them
> >> in amateur hands (mainly I'd suggest because of the sticker shock).
> >> There are something like 250 amateurs in the world who have them last
> >> I heard. (A good proportion of them are reportedly going to non-amateur
> >> customers.)
> [snip]
> >> If it also had Clover and GTOR support, I'd swallow my discomfort
> >> with the price and buy one too. According to recent information,
> >> the PTC-II now has a generic audio DSP filtering capability in
> >> addition to its uses for digital data, so it can displace another
> >> box in the clutter on the desk. And packet capability is a promised
> >> future add-on (though that isn't very exciting to me, I've already
> >> got packet well covered).
> >
> >The PTC-II packet boards are currently available at SCS.
>
> This is good to know. I'd also add that I've just learned that there
> are now about 1000 PTC-IIs in amateur hands. So usage is growing.
>
> Gary
>
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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:47 1996
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From: Clif <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Radio Service and Used Equipment
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For the finest in service on your Kenwood and Icom amateur radio gear
check out our web page at:

http://rampages.onramp.net/~avvid

We also carry used equipment that we warranty

Thanks, Clif  KA5IPF

AVVid is an Authorized Kenwood and Icom Service Center


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:47 1996
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From: "Robert A. Recny" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Ramsey 2m and 70cm kits for 9k6 packet
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Has anyone successfully implemented either Ramsey kit into a working 9600
bps solution?  I am considering one of these kits to use with my Linux
setup.

Thanks & 73,
Bob / N8SQT



From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:49 1996
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From: sanjeev david relan <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Repeaters and multiplexers
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Hi, can anyone advise me to as how repeaters affect my login speed to
the internet and how, and what are multiplexers and how they can speed
up my internet connection.
Thanks in advance for your help.



From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Reviews?  MFJ Data Radio
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mike Woo
tan) writes:
>On Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:47:52 GMT, "J. Miner" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>I wanted to know if anyone had any information or reviews on the MFJ
>>Data radio.  I am interested in having somthing for APRS tracking and to
>>leave up a perment Mailbox.  Please forward any information.
>
>  The only "drawbacks" I see to this radio is it has only 5 watts TX
>output and it is cystal controlled.  Looks like it could be a good
>choice though if you only need a packet mailbox.  Also, it is capable
>of 9600 baud, and is pretty re$onable.
>
>       Mike

The fact that it is crystal controlled should be viewed as an advantage.
Nothing screws up network routing faster than a user who won't stay put
on his LAN frequency. There are many cases when you'd like to have more
than 5 watts output, however. Fortunately, 5 watts is typical HT output
level so any HT amp can be used to boost the unit to a reasonable power
level if running barefoot won't do. Just be sure to wire PTT and the
amp external key line in parallel. Don't depend on RF sensing to key
the amp, that's too slow.

These radios work well at 9600 baud. That's the real reason to have
one. For 1200 baud, any old FM radio will do. The only real drawback
that they have is a broad receiver front end. You have to run a filter
in front of them at a high RF site. They should be Ok without it at most
home stations though.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:51 1996
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From: Ernie Howard <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Reviews?  MFJ Data Radio
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Ron Stordahl wrote:
>
> I have two of these, and actually they do work well.
>
> But don't put them on alignment equipment as you will discover that they
> drift about 1 KHz during a 1 second long packet!  Fortunately the nodes
> you connect to likely will have sufficient bandwidth that they will not
> notice the transmit frequency instability.
>
> I returned one of them to MFJ explaining the problem, they returned a
> new one to me which suffered from exactly the same problem.  I concluded
> that they really didn't care to fix the problem, and since the unit does
> work I just dropped the issue.
>
> Maybe the current product has been fixed as my experience was about one
> year ago.
>
> 73 Ron N5IN

We had the same freq shift problem here with a few of them.  It seems to
have a little effect on 9600 baud on margial paths.

By the way, I have wired two of these up to Kantronics KPC-9612's to run
both 9600 and 1200 baud on the same 2 meter freq. Works pretty nice
for that.

I did have on other "minor" problem.  My MFJ was on my ringo ranger at
the top of my tower, just above my 3 element tibander. I was running
15 meter ssb one day, unkeyed the mike and the noise level was 10db over
s9.  This came from the MFJ somehow.  Turning it off stopped the noise.
I ended up putting a tuned cavity in line with the MFJ and cured the
trouble.

73 Ernie W8EH
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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:52 1996
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From: Ron Stordahl <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Reviews?  MFJ Data Radio
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:33:38 -0600
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Joe, I don't know what a MFJ1271 is.  We have probably a dozen
MFJ1270C's which are used in node service (TheNet X1J4), so I am pretty
knowledgeable about those.

My point was that the MFJ Data Radio would probably work well for you,
but it might be best that you don't look further because if you do you
will find that they are very frequency unstable.  I found that they
drifted about 1KHz during every 1 second long packet.  But surprisingly
the radios it is communicating with don't even notice (or not
surprisingly actualy as the receivers probably have a bandwidth in the
area of 5 KHz).

That was my point.

Ron N5IN


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On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, Ron Stordahl wrote:

 I have two of these, and actually they do work well.

 But don't put them on alignment equipment as you will discover that they
 drift about 1 KHz during a 1 second long packet!  Fortunately the nodes
 you connect to likely will have sufficient bandwidth that they will not
 notice the transmit frequency instability.

 I returned one of them to MFJ explaining the problem, they returned a
 new one to me which suffered from exactly the same problem.  I concluded
 that they really didn't care to fix the problem, and since the unit does
 work I just dropped the issue.


 Maybe the current product has been fixed as my experience was about one
 year ago.

 73 Ron N5IN

Well dont know about that particular controller which includes a
radio I presume, but being a CBM 8 bit junkie, I went with their
MFJ1271 which is nothing but a packet modem and its a little jewel!
73 Joe KH6JF






From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:54 1996
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From: Tom Remmert-N2TR <[e-mail]>
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Subject: RTTY Sprint this weekend
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 11:57:25 -0600
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The annual TARA RTTY sprint is THIS weekend.

Please see http://generators.com/tara/rtty.html for rules, details, etc.

This is a great warm up for the ARRL RTTY contest in January.


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:55 1996
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From: Rich Abbot <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Simple questions on HF Pactor
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:47:21 -0500
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After a year of AX.25 on 2 meters, I wanted to try some digital
operation on HF.  My TNC (an MFJ-1276) can do HF Pactor, so
last weekend I decided to tune around, trying Pactor for the
very first time.

I don't know what Pactor sounds like, but I did find lots of
digital signals around 7.090 and 14.100 that were definitely
not RTTY.  I tuned in each one I encountered, made sure I was
"dead on" with the MFJ's tuning indicator, saw my DCD light
flicker and go bright, and watched my screen.  Nothing.

I thought that I might be listening to HF packet, rather than
Pactor, so I took the TNC out of Pactor mode and tried tuning
through again on each band.  Nothing on my screen.

All told I spent about 2 hours sweeping the low ends of 20 and
40 meters, with not a single byte of received data to show for
it.  I must have tuned in about 20 different digital signals
during that time.

So I'm wondering...

 - is Pactor operation rare, or is it reasonable to expect to
   find some activity on 40 or 20 during US daylight hours?

 - what are the hottest spots/times for Pactor ops?

 - can one tell by ear if there is Pactor activity present, or
   do you have to tune through with a TNC to tell?

 - is there something else I forgot to do that enables Pactor
   decoding?  My MFJ manual basically says "tune to center and
   watch the screen."

 - if what I heard was not Pactor, what was it?  Are the other
   HF digital modes like Clover much more popular than Pactor?

If there is a beginner's reference for Pactor operation, I'd love
to know about it.  Most packet and "intro to digital" books cover
VHF packet, with only a little info on HF operation.

Thanks for any advice!

73,

Rich
WB2MBM


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From: "Bob Rushby" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Simple questions on HF Pactor
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Rich Abbot <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> After a year of AX.25 on 2 meters, I wanted to try some digital
> operation on HF.  My TNC (an MFJ-1276) can do HF Pactor, so
> last weekend I decided to tune around, trying Pactor for the
> very first time.
>
> I don't know what Pactor sounds like, but I did find lots of
> digital signals around 7.090 and 14.100 that were definitely
> not RTTY.

Rich...  most Pactor on 40 is between 7.070 to 7.080. On 20, it's between
14.070 to 14.080. When the bands are open there is *lots* of activity.

It sounds like chirping. If you can hear both stations in a QSO, you will
hear a repeated series of long chirps with short chirps between the long
ones. If you can hear only one station, you will just hear the long or the
short chirps. The long chirps are the ones that you will see displayed as
text on your screen.

Pactor stations call CQ in something called FEC mode. That sounds something
like fast RTTY and does not have the 'chirping'.

>
>  - is there something else I forgot to do that enables Pactor
>    decoding?  My MFJ manual basically says "tune to center and
>    watch the screen."

Make sure you have typed   MODE PACTOR at the cmd:  prompt. Otherwise, just
tune for the led to be in the center (plus or minus one LED).  Also, make
sure that the pushbutton on the back of the TNC is in the right position
(one position is for 1200 baud, the other is for HF modes).
>
>
> If there is a beginner's reference for Pactor operation, I'd love
> to know about it.  Most packet and "intro to digital" books cover
> VHF packet, with only a little info on HF operation.

The ARRL has something called the HF Digital Companion. I have not read it
though, so I cant comment on how good it is.

Keep trying, Rich. It's a terrific mode. It's amazing how you can have
error free communication even with very low power.

73,
Bob VE3GLA


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From: "Stan Huntting" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Simple questions on HF Pactor
Date: 18 Dec 1996 14:34:36 GMT
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> I don't know what Pactor sounds like, but I did find lots of
> digital signals around 7.090 and 14.100 that were definitely
> not RTTY.

Take a look (and listen) at Gloria's great web page:

http://prairie.lakes.com/~medcalf/ztx/torsnd.html

You'll quickly learn what to listen for. 73,

Stan
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FF: Hi,
   : Name hr is Dick:
   : I'm also interested in pactor and have the mfj 1276.
   : Have copied some signals but am concerned if my Icom 745
   : has a fast enough switching time and how much I should reduce
   : power output to safely use the 745 on pactor.
   :                          73        Dick
   :                                    W3LD   ex-WA3LHP


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:57:59 1996
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From: webbte <[e-mail]>
Subject: Source for HTX-212 Mike Plug (Packet)
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I'm looking for a compatible plug to set up packet with the RS
HTX-212 rig but there doesn't seem to be any thing in the RS
catalog. Nor was the local RS shop much help. Is it a standard
somewhere?  Just looking for a lead as where I should go next.
Any info would be appreciated.

de Ted / w4NE (ex-AC4CS/WA4KWG)
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Jim Chandler)
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Subject: Re: Source for HTX-212 Mike Plug (Packet)
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Here is what I did.  Go to RS and get the following

279-440 Quick Connect 8-pin modular plug $6.39 (Ouch)
xxx-xxx 2-conductor plug for speaker in the back 2/$0.99 (i think)

Get a 4-conductor shielded cable and cut back about 2" of insulation.
Connect the PTT and mike audio to the appropriate pins.
Fold back the speaker and gnd so they exit where the cable enters.
Put the RJ-45 together as shown on the package.
Cut two wires at least 10" and solder to the speaker and gnd wires.
Attach the speaker plug to the two wires (dont forget the plastic
shield prior to soldering the wire)
Connect the appriopriate connector for you TNC.

Have fun.

webbte <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I'm looking for a compatible plug to set up packet with the RS
>HTX-212 rig but there doesn't seem to be any thing in the RS
>catalog. Nor was the local RS shop much help. Is it a standard
>somewhere?  Just looking for a lead as where I should go next.
>Any info would be appreciated.
>
>de Ted / w4NE (ex-AC4CS/WA4KWG)
>[e-mail]
>



From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:58:00 1996
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From: "Edgar Dijkhuizen" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: SP9.75 install problem
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Trying to install SP9.75.
I'm using a baycom modem at COM1 with tfpcx -pcom1

When starting sp all i get is

TNC#0 - (TNC2/COM1) --> Resync attempt port 01: ERROR: TNC not in terminal
mode!

sp6.11 , baycom 1.5 and GP works fine.

What am i doing wrong??
Thanks


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:58:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alvarez Herrera, Fernando)
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Hello, name here is Fernando (EB1FSK)

        I would like to know where I can find a SERVER for
TSTHOST 1.43 called:

        THEMES, which has this two files:

                        THEMES.EXE
                        THEMES.SYS

Thanks in advance




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My computer has two serial ports with 9 pin connectors.  Is there a cable
that connects the 9 pin serial connector on the computer with the
standard 25 pin connector on the tnc??  Am getting into packet. . .
..Please respond via email.  Thanks, Steve.  [e-mail]


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[e-mail] (Steven Olson) wrote:
>My computer has two serial ports with 9 pin connectors.  Is there a cable
>that connects the 9 pin serial connector on the computer with the
>standard 25 pin connector on the tnc??  Am getting into packet. . .
>..Please respond via email.  Thanks, Steve.  [e-mail]

Yep there sure is..try Wal-Mart or just about any computer store
maybe even Radio Shack. There is a cable or if you prefer there
is an adapter that will take your existing dual 25 pin cable and
make one end a 9 pin female to fit the computers Serial port.




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From: [e-mail] (Steve Woodward)
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The TX delay should be set at the minimum the radio will accept and
transmit data everytime without the other end asking for repeats.

For synthesized radios this is usually 250-350 ms.  For xtal
controlled radios, it can be as little as 8-10.  Just depends on the
radio.  And believe me, it makes a big difference in thruput.  We have
6 nodes in this area using both types of radios and have "fine tuned"
each node for optimum thruput.  Settings of 800 is unreal, unless the
radio is defective and the PLL will not lock in under that amount of
time.
Steve W7AZF
Morro Bay, CA




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From: [e-mail] (J. Miner)
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Hello,

Is there a Web Site where they keep an up-to-date list of pactor BBS on HF.  I

realize that people post them on Packet around the first of the month, but I
seem to keep missing them.

73, Jon


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From: [e-mail] (Gordon Grey)
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Hi,

I have found that the AEA DSP-232 fax zero crossing detector (modem
19) works with JVFax 7.

The DSR line toggles in response to SSTV data. Using the HAMCOM
interface selection allows me to copy pictures. The performance seems
much better for low signal levels than with the comparator interface.

However the DSP-232 is not well documented (or at all) in some
subjects.

I have noted that the DSP-232 zero crossing fax seems to be some sort
of tracking filter. There is a strong switching signal on the DSR
output at 1900Hz. This switching signal causes some aliasing or
blotching of received pictures.

Anyone else played with this mode or have any more info?
Anyone got any info on the other Fax modems available in the DSP-232?


Regards
Gordon




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From: [e-mail] (Torfinn Utne)
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Hello!

Having trouble with my USRobotics modem. Do you know any news-groups, og
e-mail reflectors discussing theese matters??

Thank you de LA4PHA, Magnus



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Torfinn Utne wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> Having trouble with my USRobotics modem. Do you know any news-groups, og
> e-mail reflectors discussing theese matters??
>
> Thank you de LA4PHA, Magnus

You have not said what your problem is. However, URS has a recall on
this
and other modems based on the firmware revision level. They will ship
you
a new ROM or exchange your modem free and shipping both ways is on USR.
The
recall is concerning a locking-up problem when accessing standard BBS's
etc.
Apparently it is not a problem when connecting to an ISP. I think the
bad
firmware is 2/10/96. Give USR a call or check their web site.

- 73 - Tom   N3NDM


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:58:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Gerwitz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: USRobotics sportster voice 33.600 & 28.800
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In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Torfinn Utne) wrote:
I had one of those onece.  It was absolute crap.  I placed 18 calls with the
company to get it fixed and never got answers on 17 of them.  They sent me a
new chip and it was still bad.  I struggled with it and them for 6 months and
finally trashed it. Take my advice.  Get one from another company.
Jim



>Hello!
>
>Having trouble with my USRobotics modem. Do you know any news-groups, og
>e-mail reflectors discussing theese matters??
>
>Thank you de LA4PHA, Magnus
>


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From: JungHo Yu <[e-mail]>
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Subject: where to find"Pager for Amateur" Handbook.
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hi folks.
i'm looking for "pager for Amateur" handbook published by kantronics.
couple of days ago , i emailed to kantronics. however, no response.
pse let me know where i can find this book.
Also if u have experience of this experiment , pse let me share ur
experience.
appreciate any advance.
73s de Matt
[e-mail]
--
"Make your Dream Biger even if you can't accomplish it in future"


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:58:10 1996
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From: hinch <[e-mail]>
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JungHo Yu wrote:
>
> hi folks.
> i'm looking for "pager for Amateur" handbook published by kantronics.
> couple of days ago , i emailed to kantronics. however, no response.
> pse let me know where i can find this book.
> Also if u have experience of this experiment , pse let me share ur
> experience.
> appreciate any advance.
> 73s de Matt
> [e-mail]
> --
> "Make your Dream Biger even if you can't accomplish it in future"I too am lo
oking for this book in the Southern California (Orange County)
area; I sent an eMail to Kantronics back in September and they said they
didn't have any orders from places like HRO yet.  They said you can order
it direct from them for something like $23.  As recent as last weekend,
HRO did not have it yet.  I prefer to see it before paying this kind of
price.

73, Dave KE6MYC

eMail: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:58:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Wolverine)
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Subject: Who use Drake R8A for decode signals, or any other receiver?
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Hi!!

For those of you who use Receivers for decode dgital signals
I have a question to make wich is :

How do you decode the digital signals?


I know it's a stupid question but I will try to explain, As far as I
know normally those receivers have a serial port for connection to the
PC, wich is normally for control the radio, but WHERE CAN YOU "LISTEN"
TO THE DIGITAL SIGNALS TO DECODE THEM, do you use the same connection
( the serial port RS232C) or do you ALSO have a audio cable connect
from the radio to a sound board on the PC?

This is my doubt. ANY HELP is welcome.


Thanks in advance
Miguel Moura (aka Wolverine)
[e-mail]
Portugal


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:58:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Who use Drake R8A for decode signals, or any other receiver?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>For those of you who use Receivers for decode dgital signals
>I have a question to make wich is :
>How do you decode the digital signals?
>
>I know it's a stupid question but I will try to explain, As far as I
>know normally those receivers have a serial port for connection to the
>PC, wich is normally for control the radio, but WHERE CAN YOU "LISTEN"
>TO THE DIGITAL SIGNALS TO DECODE THEM, do you use the same connection
>( the serial port RS232C) or do you ALSO have a audio cable connect
>from the radio to a sound board on the PC?
>
>This is my doubt. ANY HELP is welcome.

I don't know of any amateur HF radio today that has internal data mode
decoding. Their serial ports are just for controlling the functions
of the radio remotely. To decode received data, you need a data
decoder of some kind which is fed audio from the receiver. In
some cases, you can use your computer's sound card and some software
to decode the data, in other cases you would use a separate hardware
decoder box which attaches to the radio audio in and out connections
and connects to the computer by a RS232 serial link. These boxes
have various names. Those for RTTY are called TUs. Those used for
packet are called TNCs. Those which do many different modes are
called, unsurprisingly, multimode controllers.

Decoders can range from very simple to very elaborate. Often, but
not always, the very elaborate ones work best.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:58:13 1996
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From: Steven Monsey <[e-mail]>
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Subject: WINPACK Server Programming
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Hay!

I'd like to write a winpack server program. Anyone out there done one?
I would like to ask a few questions.

Steve N0FPF Seattle, WA


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:58:14 1996
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From: Ron Stordahl <[e-mail]>
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I received an answer from burt lang <[e-mail]> directly, he
apparently did not respond to the newsgroup.

Burt suggested setting Mode 4 to 1.  This setting disables Node
broadcasts on port 1 but allows them to continue on port 0.  After
making the change 'mo /4 1' the flush counter stopped incrementing.
This is thus the solution.

In fact the reduction in overhead from this setting is probably
insignificant.  Maybe I am tinkering just a little too much!

Ron N5IN


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From: [e-mail] (Vincent Socci ph3166)
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From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:58:16 1996
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From: "Kevin Nathan" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: XP-Kam
Date: 12 Dec 1996 06:05:06 GMT
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        Last night Ricky Scott posted a message on here talking about XP-Kam which
had been written by Gary, KF7XP.  He also mentioned that XP had a web page
but I have been unable to find it.  Can anyone here point me in the right
direction for this page?  I am using an old 286 and would like to try this
program.

Thanks in advance for your help.
--
Kevin Nathan
K7RX


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:58:16 1996
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Kevin Nathan wrote:
>
>         Last night Ricky Scott posted a message on here talking about XP-Kam
 which
> had been written by Gary, KF7XP.  He also mentioned that XP had a web page
> but I have been unable to find it.  Can anyone here point me in the right
> direction for this page?  I am using an old 286 and would like to try this
> program.

http://www.indirect.com/user/gjohnson/

You will love the program.  Best on the market and outstanding support.


From [e-mail] Sat Dec 21 12:58:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dennis Gabler)
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Gary's home page is at:

http://www.indirect.com/user/gjohnson/


73's Dennis W5DG

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                                               |
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:25:43 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Stephen Lui)
Subject: Kam Plus
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I'm considering getting a Kam Plus multi-mode controller:

1. What are the differences between V6, V7, and V8 firmware?
2. How well does the CW mode work? I hear guys going over 30WPM and it
   would be interesting to know what they were saying!
3. How well do the Digital Modes do in general? Will say Pactor get through
   when all other modes (including CW) can't?

Stephen
AC6YK


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:25:44 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Wolverine)
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Subject: Re: Who use Drake R8A for decode signals, or any other receiver?
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[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>>For those of you who use Receivers for decode dgital signals
>>I have a question to make wich is :
>>How do you decode the digital signals?
>>
>>I know it's a stupid question but I will try to explain, As far as I
>>know normally those receivers have a serial port for connection to the
>>PC, wich is normally for control the radio, but WHERE CAN YOU "LISTEN"
>>TO THE DIGITAL SIGNALS TO DECODE THEM, do you use the same connection
>>( the serial port RS232C) or do you ALSO have a audio cable connect
>>from the radio to a sound board on the PC?
>>
>>This is my doubt. ANY HELP is welcome.
>
>I don't know of any amateur HF radio today that has internal data mode
>decoding. Their serial ports are just for controlling the functions
>of the radio remotely. To decode received data, you need a data
>decoder of some kind which is fed audio from the receiver. In
>some cases, you can use your computer's sound card and some software
>to decode the data, in other cases you would use a separate hardware
>decoder box which attaches to the radio audio in and out connections
>and connects to the computer by a RS232 serial link. These boxes
>have various names. Those for RTTY are called TUs. Those used for
>packet are called TNCs. Those which do many different modes are
>called, unsurprisingly, multimode controllers.
>
>Decoders can range from very simple to very elaborate. Often, but
>not always, the very elaborate ones work best.

In that case HOW Packet work?

The line out of the radio is connect by a cable to the line in of the
sound card .

Those the "Volume" of the line in of the sound card have some affect
on decode the digital signals?

And if the line out of the radio is the headphones line out and I use
it to connect to the line in of the sound card, the volume of the
radio have affect on decode digital signals?

Humm.... well, I have the filling that this is confusing, but in other
words I want to decode digital signals  using the headphone line to
connect to my sound board, my doubt is ... those the volume of the
radio, wich affect the volume of the headphones (when connect), and
the volume of line in of my sound card have some affect on decode the
digital signals.

I just hope you and everybody understand.


Miguel Moura (aka Wolverine)
[e-mail]
Portugal


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:25:45 1997
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From: Rich Abbot <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Using the MFJ-1276 TNC on Pactor
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Hi Folks,

Does anyone have an MFJ-1276 TNC, and use it for Pactor operation?

If so, allow me to describe to you what my unit is doing.

The TNC starts normally, in packet mode.  I then put it into
Pactor mode:

  cmd: pactor

I see the Pactor sign-on banner:

  [MFJ PACTOR $07 - 10128 free]

Then, say, I want to send a CQ in FEC/Unproto mode. So I type:

  p_cmd: u1

and indeed my transmitter keys up.  But the strange thing is,
if I don't touch my keyboard for about a second, the FEC mode
is stopped and I suddenly see the Pactor sign-on banner again.
No hands required!

According to the 1276 manual, the FEC mode should persist until
I decide to terminate it by typing a control-c followed by 'D'.
That's not happening for me.  Also, if I try to connect to
another station, a similar sequence of events happens:

  p_cmd: c w2abc
  ***Connecting to w2abc
  p_cmd:
  [MFJ PACTOR $07 - 10128 free]
  p_cmd:

After each of these transactions, the unit behaves as if I just
entered Pactor mode from packet mode.  Weird, no?

Pactor decoding seems to be working well - I have no trouble
tuning in Pactor QSOs, but I'd sure like to join in!

I've used the TNC for a year on 2m packet, so my problem is
related specifically to its Pactor side.  So, 1276 owners, I'd
appreciate your input on:

  - Your unit does not behave this way, right?

  - To get your unit to work on Pactor, did you have to change
    any of the internal jumpers, or do anything else special?

  - What are the correct settings for baud switches 6, 7, and 8
    for VHF packet and HF Pactor operation?  The manual describes
    only switches 1-5 in any detail.

I really appreciate any advice...I called MFJ on this and didn't
get much useful information.

Thanks and 73,

Rich, WB2MBM


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:25:46 1997
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> If you're running windows, don't expect a baycom modem to run properly.
> So far I've not heard of anyone successfully getting baycom modems to
> function properly if Windows 3.1, win95, os/2, Linux, or WINDOWS NT is
You probably should check newer Linux Kernel Sources (2.0.4 or later),
there's a driver for the baycom 1200 baud modem.

> running as the software for the baycom requires the computer to constantly
> monitor a port for changes, and then translate it.  Be grateful you have
So what? If it can do this directly (i.e. not through a virtualized COM
port, as in a windoze dos box), then what's the problem?

> the PK232, but if you're determined to have something to carry around, the
Eek. How are you going to implement more sophisticated channel access
protocols, such as Optima or DAMA? No chance with a 232. And it has
a lousy DCD circuitry.

> TINY 2 from PACCOM, or the KPC-3 from kantronics are much better choices,
If you're _really_ looking for something small, use your laptops sound
device.

Tom Sailer
hb9jnx/ae4wa


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:25:48 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: GPS GP-22 Icom
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In article <[e-mail]> Rejean Bisson <[e-mail]> writ
es:
>I purchased recently from Icom a GP-22 and after many hours to
>programming a software
>for read the protocol send by this unit, i had a question ?
>Its this product have the possibility to upload into the GPS
>waypoints, routes etc?
>I check the connector from the interface ex-1443 for connect by RS-232
>and this connector is mono ???? pinout for TX only???? or if a press the
>button Prog on the GPS the output the interface ex-1443 pass to RX mode
>???? Normaly with rs-232 pin 2, pin 3 and ground is necessary. If is the
>case what is the sentence i do send to GPS for uploading a waypoint and
>what is the form for transfert the data.

I own one of these, and as far as I know there is no way to send data
*to* the unit. You can only receive data *from* the unit. This is one
of several limitations of the GP-22 that drove me to buy a Garmin 45.
The GP-22 has very limited capabilities compared to more modern (and
cheaper) alternatives.

Gary
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es
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:25:51 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Need info about CAT commands.
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In article <E2tD7o.3zr@pe1chl> [e-mail] writes:
>
>I think Icom has a more structured approach, but it is just as hard
>to get any info.  There usually is no specification in the user manual.

The IC-706 manual has the full Icom C-IV control set in chart form,
and includes data frame structure and timing information as well.
That's all there is to know about their control scheme. Not all
Icom radios implement the entire control word set, and the IC-735
uses a slightly different structure. The info needed to make them
all interoperate is in the IC-706 manual, however. Icom will also
sell you a separate document about the C-IV bus, but it doesn't tell
you any more about programming than what's in the IC-706 user's manual.

It should be pointed out that the Icom C-IV system is not compatible
physically or programatically with the Yaesu CAT scheme, and neither
is compatible with the various schemes Kenwood has used for their radios.
If you want to control several Icom radios, their bus design is best
because it is an addressable serial bus which can be daisy chained, IE
conceptually it is a bit like ethernet. But the Yaesu CAT scheme is
simpler to interface to your computer if you only have one radio to
control.

Gary
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:25:54 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Icom switching problem
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In article <01bbf064$526d20e0$[e-mail]> "Will, KN6DV" <kn6dv@qn
et.com> writes:
>I have a Icom 775DSP and a Icom 706.
>Both have the acc. Plug # 1 and 2.
>I am using pin # 3 of the acc #2 to switch my amplifier (with the Ameritron
>ARB-700 relay buffer)
>using pin # 3 of acc plug1 to switch the radio TX on and off from the
>computer via a level converter.
>I am using this future for RTTY (I am using RITTY by K6STI)
>
>Here is the problem I am having.
>As soon I connect acc plug #1 (the one from the computer level converter)
>the amplifier switch on, it does this even with the level converter
>disconnected from the computer.
>
>I also have tried a different relay buffer for the amplifier but the same
>thing happens again.
>So far I have tried anything I could think of an no result (It drives me
>nuts) I even build a second level converter.
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
> Thanks 73 Will,  KN6DV

Sounds like you have a ground loop problem between the rig, amp, and
computer. Carefully trace out all possible return paths and see if you
can spot it. You may have to isolate one or more of the control paths
with optoisolators if you can't fix the ground loop problems. (I'd
bet on the computer being the source of the ground loop.)

Gary
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:25:55 1997
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From: [e-mail] (John Dundas)
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Subject: Help Soundblaster Software to decode AX25?
Date: 23 Dec 1996 18:31:34 GMT
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Hello One and all,
   I am looking for a PC based programme that will allow me to decode
packet radio using my soundblaster board. If anyone can point me in the
right direction it would be much appreciated.

rgds John GM0OPS
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:25:56 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Martin Rath)
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Subject: Ham Radio Home Page
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Hi
I just finished my new home Page. If you are a Ham
Radio or a citizen bander give me the adress of your
home page and I will link you !
Have a look at:
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/2565

73's from Martin Rath FA1UKP
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/2565
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:25:57 1997
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From: "A.C. SPRAGGINS" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: help with baycom
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 16:41:31 -0600
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Hi David:
     I have a pentium 133 with Win 95 and a 386-25 with Win 3.11.
Neither will run the Baycom modem thru windows.  You have to run it from
dos.  The problem with the pentium and Win 95 is that the pentium uses a
16550 uart chip for the comm ports.  The Baycom won't work that fast
according to the authors.  You need an 8250 uart (read slower clock) in
order to use it.  The authors are aware of the problem and are working
on it.  Someone may develop a "driver" for it soon.

73 de "A.C.", W5EZM
[e-mail]




david johnson wrote:
>
> I have a Texas Instrument laptop running windows 3.11. Problem
> with baycom is L2 is not running, that is I do not get the
> flashing icon in the upper right hand of the screen as
> mentioned in the text files. Radio is an ICOM ht, it transmits
> and receives ok hooked to the baycom but will not connect. Can
> anyone help with suggestions. My pk232 works fine on this radio
> and computer. Thanks David VA3MRJ


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:25:58 1997
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From: rob@pe1chl (Rob Janssen)
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Subject: Re: Need info about CAT commands.
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 22:44:37 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Coffman
) writes:

>In article <E2tD7o.3zr@pe1chl> [e-mail] writes:
>>
>>I think Icom has a more structured approach, but it is just as hard
>>to get any info.  There usually is no specification in the user manual.

>The IC-706 manual has the full Icom C-IV control set in chart form,
>and includes data frame structure and timing information as well.
>That's all there is to know about their control scheme. Not all
>Icom radios implement the entire control word set, and the IC-735
>uses a slightly different structure. The info needed to make them
>all interoperate is in the IC-706 manual, however. Icom will also
>sell you a separate document about the C-IV bus, but it doesn't tell
>you any more about programming than what's in the IC-706 user's manual.

I think you are referring to CI-V.  Icom also did CI-IV but it is used
in an older generation of transceivers.

I have an IC-R7100 and the only page about CI-V in the user manual
describes how to set the baudrate and the device address, not the
actual protocol or command information.

I have a copy of a manual that is shipped with the Icom CI-V interface
and it has more detail about the protocol and some example programs,
but no detail about the IC-R7100.
So, when I would want to do some programming for my receiver I probably
will need another document, maybe the service manual.

>It should be pointed out that the Icom C-IV system is not compatible
>physically or programatically with the Yaesu CAT scheme, and neither
>is compatible with the various schemes Kenwood has used for their radios.
>If you want to control several Icom radios, their bus design is best
>because it is an addressable serial bus which can be daisy chained, IE
>conceptually it is a bit like ethernet. But the Yaesu CAT scheme is
>simpler to interface to your computer if you only have one radio to
>control.

It depends on what you want to do and which transceiver you have, but
Yeasu CAT never is simpeler, IMHO.

Both schemes basically use TTL-level async serial I/O, and to interface
them to the typical PC you need a MAX232 or equivalent level converter.
In the Icom radios the receive and transmit share a single wire, on
the Yeasu CAT they use separate wires.  Other than that, the serial
interfaces are identical.

But there often is a catch with CAT: e.g. on the FRG-9600, there is no
serial data from the receiver to the computer, and info like the S-meter
reading is presented in analog form.  To read it, you need an A/D
converter input in your computer (apparently, the de-facto standard
computer in Japan has this in its basic configuration).  On the Icom
line the s-meter data at least is presented in serial form.

I have also done CAT control of the Yeasu FT-212 and FT-712, and these
transceivers have only single-direction control (i.e. there is no
report-back of any status information from transceiver to computer).
Also, many functions of the transceiver are not at all controllable
via CAT, including basic things like selecting a memory channel or
programming a memory.

CAT is a half-done job, just barely enough to be able to mention it
as a feature in the ad.  Sort of like "9600 baud ready".
When you really want to use it, you run into nasty limitations.
The timing is also awkward.  You cannot generate the datastream using
a UART and interrupt-driven output, you will need software delays
to provide the inter-byte delay.  Messy.

And while at first glance there appears to be a "5 bytes at 4800 baud"
standard command format with CAT, the structure of the commands
differs between implementations (e.g. the command byte can be the
first or the last byte).  Of course this doesn't really matter because
you can only have a single device per serial port anyway, but it
could be convenient to have some standardization e.g. when you would
want to implement some control feature "for Yeasu transceivers" in
a satellite tracking program.  And that could be the kind of thing
the original poster wanted to do.
(bad news: this isn't possible with CAT, you need to know what type
of transceiver you are controlling)

Rob
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:25:59 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Marv Shelton)
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Subject: PK-232 ROM version
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 23:17:22 GMT
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Does anyone know if there is a later PK-232MBX ROM version than
3/5/93???
Now that AEA is going out of business anyone know where I can get
ahold of a later version, if it exists?  I can program my own set from
a master if one is made available.

Marv - WA2BFW



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:00 1997
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From: "Rick Lapp" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Nos <> BPQ help?
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Can someone tell me the correct attach statement to get nos initialized
properly running under bpq?

Thanks,
kc2fd
--
Rick Lapp
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:01 1997
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From: STEPHEN GREENBAUM <[e-mail]>
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Subject: DSP232
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Several weeks ago I received a ROM revision for the DSP232
All it came with was installation instructions. Did anyone receive any
other documentation? Such as new commands, new features, or operating
manual updates.
Steve
WB2KDG


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:02 1997
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From: "Bob (Parker) Calkins" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Emergency communication with packet
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Tom Geyer wrote:
>
> As a relatively new ham, I'm getting interested in packet.  I would like
> to be able to use my packet station in case of a local emergency (fire,
> earthquake; both quite common here in Santa Barbara) when there is no
> power.

Hi Tom-

The problem you have is not technical, but organizational. Who are you going t
o TELL
that you're either OK, or not OK?

Emergency management agencies use hams extensively for communications during a
n
emergency. But one of their biggest fears is the ham who didn't get trained BE
FORE the
event suddenly coming on the air expecting to ask for a fire truck and get one
. It ties
up frequencies that are being used to order large-scale resources to help many
 people.

My suggestion is to get involved in California's Auxiliary Communications Serv
ice (ACS).
The program is a model for the whole country, and I think you'll have fun to b
oot.

They'll put you to work in their packet section, and you'll be part of a servi
ce that
gets whole cities help instead of just yourself.

Good luck!

Bob


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:03 1997
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From: "Bob (Parker) Calkins" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PK-900 Firmware
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Hi-

I just got my PK-900, with V7.1 Firmware dated Sept. 95. It seems to
work OK (some maildrop erratics) but the Gateway function is very
different from what other PK-900's I've seen.

On the others, you connect first to the maildrop, and enter a "G" to go
to the gateway prompt. On mine, the gateway must be a separate callsign.
Any suggestions on how to make mine consistent with the others on the
same frequency. We'll all involved in disaster management and
consistency would increase operator reliability.

I've noticed one other station with V7.1 Firmware, but it had a Mar 96
date. Any chance there's really a difference?

BTW, I'm on mark frequency 3624 in Western Washington State if anyone
wants to try and connect and see what's happening.

Thanks

(Great newsgroup BTW. I haven't seen one Code/No Code fight!)


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:04 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Malloy)
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Subject: APRS On HP200lx
Date: 24 Dec 1996 04:40:57 GMT
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I would like to install APRS on my palmtop and use it with a garmin gps
and or a kam tnc. What are the minimum files I need to make this run.

--

Michael J. Malloy                          Amateur Radio: N9WJV
Medical College of Wisconsin               Voice: 414-384-2000 Ext.2129
Milwaukee, Wisconsin                       Email: [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:05 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Fiber)
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Subject: Re: AEA2232 help needed-SOS
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Dear friends,

>My AEA DSP 2232 doesn┤t   work right.
>I┤m getting on the little screen of the TNC the following,
>Packet
>Packet
>and both lights DCD and CMD are on.

>On the screen of the computer appears the following message when I
>communicate with the TNC,

>cmd: 3d: DSP software load failed and sometimes
>cmd: 2e: DSP software load failed.

>I dont know if the Microchip Motorola 56001zl20 is doing wrong or some
>statics on it or other.
>I can communicate and change modems, etc without any problem.
>How can I solve this problem..
>AEA they say is in process of closing, so they can not help me.
>Please some one do it. If you have service maunal check the error
>messages and answer me.
>Awaiting your kind comments, have my best.
>E-mail me [e-mail]
>Christian-Pedro EA2AFI
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
>Christian M. Hondeville Urrutibeheity

>Particular de club 2                                  Phone:  [phone]
>Las Arenas-48930                                      Fax:    [phone]
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Try seating the DSP chip.  Many times the DSP chip will loosen with the heatin
g
and cooling of the DSP-2232.  This type of fault shows up when the DSP chip is
not seated fully in the socket.

Gary



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:06 1997
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Subject: Help program for talk node
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We want to setup talk node on our net/rom. I've heard there are
a program for talk or chat node putting into the rom of tnc.
Where can we get the file in ftp site?
Ur help will be appreciated.
my e-mail add is [e-mail]
Tnx, 73 Joe



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:07 1997
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From: "Timothy S. Powell" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: packet radio and tcp/ip.
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 03:06:21 -0800
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Can someone tell me where on the web I can find information on useing
tcp/ip with packet?  I found a couple of spots on the web but the file
was not on the server anymore.

Thanks for your time and help.

Timothy
KD4IKY


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:08 1997
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From: Tadeusz Bienkowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: [Q] Slowing down Ethernet cards not possible? Why?
Date: 24 Dec 1996 12:11:36 GMT
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Hello friends
A few months ago I was intrested in using analog TV SAT receiver (without
LNC) to make data link with Ethernet cards as PC interface.
The experimental socket on the table does not work because
IF band is ~27 MHz FM but video band after demodulation is only ~5MHz.
Then I replaced the clock cristals on the ethernet cards from oryginal 20
to 10MHz in direct connected PC to PC.   But it did not work too.
Transmit signal seems to be good. I think the problem is in receive
direction. It's caused probably by bad slave-receive clock on the
ethernet card. Then I stoped further experiments. I hadn't got test
equipment to answer that question.
Using 2Mbps modems G703 HDB3, link works correctly.
Do you have any experience in simple I/O electronic modules well
cooperating with ethernet 10baseT card (tranceiver)
I would be intrested in electric schemas of such modules.
Merry Christmas and a happy new year!

Tadeusz Bienkowski SQ5BLP Warsaw Poland.




From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:09 1997
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From: Tadeusz Bienkowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: [Q] Slowing down Ethernet cards not possible? Why?
Date: 24 Dec 1996 12:12:43 GMT
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Hello friends
A few months ago I was intrested in using analog TV SAT receiver (without
LNC) to make data link with Ethernet cards as PC interface.
The experimental socket on the table does not work because
IF band is ~27 MHz FM but video band after demodulation is only ~5MHz.
Then I replaced the clock cristals on the ethernet cards from oryginal 20
to 10MHz in direct connected PC to PC.   But it did not work too.
Transmit signal seems to be good. I think the problem is in receive
direction. It's caused probably by bad slave-receive clock on the
ethernet card. Then I stoped further experiments. I hadn't got test
equipment to answer that question.
Using 2Mbps modems G703 HDB3, link works correctly.
Do you have any experience in simple I/O electronic modules well
cooperating with ethernet 10baseT card (tranceiver)
I would be intrested in electric schemas of such modules.
Merry Christmas and a happy new year!

Tadeusz Bienkowski SQ5BLP Warsaw Poland.




From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:10 1997
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From: "Bob Bocskay" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: O-scope for sale
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Tektronics 543 scope with plugins (CA,53E/54E, type H wideband), probes and
a real nice Tek scope cart all for $60
                                contact:
                                        Luis Ibarra
                                        [phone]
                                        PHX AZ


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:11 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Need info about CAT commands.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <[e-mail]> <E2tD7o.3zr@pe1chl> <[e-mail]> <E2w1uE.A5G@pe1chl>
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In article <E2w1uE.A5G@pe1chl> [e-mail] writes:
>In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Coffma
n) writes:
>>The IC-706 manual has the full Icom C-IV control set in chart form,
>>and includes data frame structure and timing information as well.
>>That's all there is to know about their control scheme. Not all
>>Icom radios implement the entire control word set, and the IC-735
>>uses a slightly different structure. The info needed to make them
>>all interoperate is in the IC-706 manual, however. Icom will also
>>sell you a separate document about the C-IV bus, but it doesn't tell
>>you any more about programming than what's in the IC-706 user's manual.
>
>I think you are referring to CI-V.  Icom also did CI-IV but it is used
>in an older generation of transceivers.

Yes, you're right, I had the hyphen out of place.

>I have an IC-R7100 and the only page about CI-V in the user manual
>describes how to set the baudrate and the device address, not the
>actual protocol or command information.

Oh, well the IC-706 owner's manual has it all, even the control words the
IC-706 doesn't understand.

>I have a copy of a manual that is shipped with the Icom CI-V interface
>and it has more detail about the protocol and some example programs,
>but no detail about the IC-R7100.
>So, when I would want to do some programming for my receiver I probably
>will need another document, maybe the service manual.

Well, you can just try all the possible control words and see which
ones your radio understands. Note, I have the service manual for the
IC-706 and it says *nothing* about the CI-V bus, so don't count on
the R7100 service manual having anything on it either. In fact, until
I got the IC-706, I didn't know how to use the CI-V bus with my
IC-735. There's zip in its manual. Now I can make both radios talk
with the computer.

>>It should be pointed out that the Icom C-IV system is not compatible
>>physically or programatically with the Yaesu CAT scheme, and neither
>>is compatible with the various schemes Kenwood has used for their radios.
>>If you want to control several Icom radios, their bus design is best
>>because it is an addressable serial bus which can be daisy chained, IE
>>conceptually it is a bit like ethernet. But the Yaesu CAT scheme is
>>simpler to interface to your computer if you only have one radio to
>>control.
>
>It depends on what you want to do and which transceiver you have, but
>Yeasu CAT never is simpeler, IMHO.
>
>Both schemes basically use TTL-level async serial I/O, and to interface
>them to the typical PC you need a MAX232 or equivalent level converter.
>In the Icom radios the receive and transmit share a single wire, on
>the Yeasu CAT they use separate wires.  Other than that, the serial
>interfaces are identical.

Well, that's what I meant. You have to arbitrate the CI-V buss, you
don't with the CAT interface. It's like trying to use the up/down
mic buttons for frequency control, Icom uses a two level approach
on one wire while Yaesu uses a pull to ground and two wires. The
Yaesu approach is simpler.

Gary
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:13 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: soundcard radio modem for us
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:04:21 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Benedict
 P. Barszcz) writes:
>Hi all,
>not long ago messages started to appear on different newsgroups about
>soundcard/modem being developed for radioamatuer use. I know that
>Thomas Sailer has started to offer software suitable to transmit faxes
>over radio with the help of a sound card. There is another project
>though, to convert a SB soundcard into a 9600 modem. Sounds
>revolutionary given the fact that PI Card costs $120 and a sound card
>about $29-39 and is ready for use.
>How do you, folks, percept the whole project? Do you know anything
>more about it. How is it going to affect out community?

Well, here's my cut at it. There are two approaches being used
with sound cards. One uses sound cards with on-board DSP, like
the Cardinal cards with the Analog Devices chipset. With these,
you can download a modem program to the DSP and let it run, then
process the data with the PC's processor. By dividing the work
this way, you can have a complex modem and not tax the PC. The
downside is that sound cards with programable DSP are rare, and
more expensive.

The other approach uses an ordinary sound card merely for its
A/D and D/A capabilities and does all signal processing on the
main microprocessor in the PC. This limits you to very simple
modems unless the PC has a lot of horsepower. But PCs are gaining
more horsepower every day, and a 200 MHz Pentium Pro is equivalent
to a mid-level dedicated DSP processor. When the new PCs with
microprocessors with MMX extensions hit the market in force,
DSP on the main PC will become much better. I expect that
eventually this will be the way all but the most advanced
modems will be implemented.

I think this will be a good thing for the digital community
in a couple of ways. First, we won't need a bunch of separate
hardware boxes to do various digital methods. We'll just load
a different program on the PC. And second, every ham will have
a DSP development platform, his PC, and won't need all kinds
of hardware development tools to do DSP development. This could
lead to an explosion of new methods and new programs being
developed. Out of that may come things better than we know
how to do now with our hardware boxes.

For now, however, we still need a hardware assist for complex
modems, like PACTOR II uses, and we still need high speed
digital interfaces, like the PI-2 card, for things like the
56 kb RF modem. No sound card can handle 56 kb yet, and
likely won't be able to in the future either because the
top sound card sampling rate is 44 kHz (like a CD), and
that's limited by Nyquist to handling signals no faster
than 22 kHz. There's no reason to offer a *sound* card
which can handle anything faster than that. (Multimedia
*video* accelerator cards might be pressed into service
for higher speed data, but they're pretty specialized and
might not have the required flexibility. I'm keeping an
open mind on that.)

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:14 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Gareth Rowlands)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Nos <> BPQ help?
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:38:46 GMT
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In message <[e-mail]> "Rick Lapp" wrote:

> Can someone tell me the correct attach statement to get nos initialized
> properly running under bpq?

Here's the port entry for the JNOS in our BPQCFG.TXT

PORT
    ID=Link to GB7BBC-5
    TYPE=INTERNAL
    PROTOCOL=KISS
    QUALITY=255
    MAXFRAME=7
    FRACK=7000
    RESPTIME=2000
    RETRIES=5
    PACLEN=236
ENDPORT

And some bits from our "autoexec" that attaches the BPQ ports in JNOS


attach bpq init 0x7f 62
#
# This is the port (our port 4) referred to in the BPQCFG.TXT
attach bpq 4 node
#
# Now let JNOS work across this BPQ radio port (our port 1)
attach bpq 1 ax1

N.B. PACLEN in the BPQCFG.TXT is set at 236 !!

Hope this helps.

73, Gareth.



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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:14 1997
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 11:01:12 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Hamcomm Interface, QST 12/96
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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I am searching for version 3.1 of the HamComm software as downloadable from th
e Internet/WWW.
Pls advise me of its availability and the website location.

Pls e-mail


73s es TNX
WA2RSX
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:15 1997
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From: "Timothy S. Powell" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,alt.ham-radio.ssb,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.space
Subject: Kits for phase-3D?
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 10:08:42 -0800
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Does anyone know of any 6-meter, 2-meter and 70-cm SSB kits that would
be good to use for the Phase-3D sat when it gets in orbit.  I'm a
college student with limited funds.  I would like to work the sat when
it get up but can not buy the high price equipment that is needed but
would like to build a small sat station if possible.

Thanks


Timothy
KD4IKY


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:16 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
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Subject: www.hamradio-online.com: FCC postpones RF safety rules until September 1997
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The FCC, respondig to numerous petitions filed by the ARRL and other
organizations has postponed implementation of the new RF safety rules until
September 1997. Under the new rules, Amateurs must certify the RF safety of
their stations if they operate at 50 watts or more output power.

The complete story is available at http://www.hamradio-online.com

------------------------
Ed (KF7VY) and Kim (N7VPL) Mitchell
email to [e-mail]
Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free! at
http://www.hamradio-online.com



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:17 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
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Subject: www.hamradio-online.com: How Your Government Can Monitor Your Communications
Date: 24 Dec 1996 20:52:20 GMT
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With permission, we've reprinted a fascinating story from CovertAction
Quarterly, on worldwide government agencies ability to monitor your email, FAX
,
computer and voice communications. While some may conclude this falls into the

"conspiracy theory" class of news, we have primary sources that confirmed
portions of the story as true. Makes for interesting reading.

Check it out at http://www.hamradio-online.com

------------------------
Ed (KF7VY) and Kim (N7VPL) Mitchell
email to [e-mail]
Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free! at
http://www.hamradio-online.com



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:18 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
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Subject: www.hamradio-online.com: FCC RF Safety Rules *** CORRECTION ***
Date: 24 Dec 1996 20:56:01 GMT
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Previous posting should have noted that the FCC RF Safety Rules
compliance is postponed until September 1997 for non-Amateur services and unti
l
January 1998 for the Amateur Radio Service. Sorry if this causes you any
confusion.

See http://www.hamradio-online.com

------------------------
Ed (KF7VY) and Kim (N7VPL) Mitchell
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Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free! at
http://www.hamradio-online.com



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:20 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Lee Mairs)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: PK-232 ROM version
Date: 24 Dec 1996 22:49:20 GMT
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In article
<59n3tu$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>Does anyone know if there is a later PK-232MBX ROM
version than
>3/5/93???
I thought I bought an upgrade every time they announced
one.  The label on the bottom of my 232 sez Aug 91, but
the instruction manua (I'm sure its up to date) sez
March 93.  I do know that I've got PACTOR.
I would definitely be interested in an upgrade, if
there is one and someone is selling them.
Lee, KM4YY



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Subject: Re: www.hamradio-online.com: How Your Government Can Monitor Your Communications
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In article <59pfq4$[e-mail]>,
        Ed Mitchell <[e-mail]> wrote:

>With permission, we've reprinted a fascinating story from CovertAction
>Quarterly, on worldwide government agencies ability to monitor your email, FA
X,
>computer and voice communications.

Old news. Government agencies have had the capability for years.

MD
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:21 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff McLeman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: APRS On HP200lx
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 00:09:55 GMT
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On 24 Dec 1996 04:40:57 GMT, [e-mail] (Michael Malloy)
wrote:

>I would like to install APRS on my palmtop and use it with a garmin gps
>and or a kam tnc. What are the minimum files I need to make this run.
>
>--
>
>Michael J. Malloy                          Amateur Radio: N9WJV
>Medical College of Wisconsin               Voice: 414-384-2000 Ext.2129
>Milwaukee, Wisconsin                       Email: [e-mail]
>
>


I would suggest getting a Flash card and placing APRS on it for the
HP200LX. One side note, map drawing on the HP200LX is painfully slow.
Other than that, it works great.

Jeff

----------------------------------------------------
Jeff McLeman               [e-mail]
Issaquah, Wa.
A.K.A. KD1IT               kd1it@n7duo.#wwa.wa.usa.na
----------------------------------------------------


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:23 1997
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:24 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Steven Kerns)
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Try Down East Microwave; http\\downeastmicrowave.com

They have a lot of neat stuff for VHF/UHF/microwave.

73 Steve N3FTI

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Does anyone know of any 6-meter, 2-meter and 70-cm SSB kits that would
>be good to use for the Phase-3D sat when it gets in orbit.  I'm a
>college student with limited funds.  I would like to work the sat when
>it get up but can not buy the high price equipment that is needed but
>would like to build a small sat station if possible.
>
>Thanks
>
>
>Timothy
>KD4IKY



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:25 1997
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From: "Bob Dye" <[e-mail]>
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I just purchased the Garmin 45XL with the data cable and did the old
resistor "pull down" trick on the gps to computer line and the NEMA data is
going to the computer just fine.  I then took a resistor and a diode in
series with a zener to ground to change the -12 to +12 to 0 or +5 for the
computer to the gps.  This works great on loop back test ect.  Delorme
Street Atlas 4.0 and Map Expert both read/write waypoints to the GPS and I
can't seem to get these features working.  The tracking functions work
great.  Are the other control lines of the RS232 being used?  Anybody with
any input I would appreciate it.  Please e-mail below.

Thanks,


Bob
[e-mail]
561.552.3114 Voice Mail

Merry Christmas!





From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:27 1997
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From: Luc Bos <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: help with baycom
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 04:50:19 +0100
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Thomas Sailer wrote:

> You probably should check newer Linux Kernel Sources (2.0.4 or later),
> there's a driver for the baycom 1200 baud modem.

Since you wrote the software, maybe you know an answer...?

We have 2 pentium's 120 using the baycom modem to connect too each
other, one running linux kernel 2.0.18 and one 2.0.27. After some
experiments the link is running a little bit with ax25 tcp or netrom,
but in both cases we have ploblems. When using telnet or ftp we can have
a connection but just before or sometimes after the login session the
connection gets disturbed by losing a packet. This packet will be
repeated a few times but the connection stops and it seems that the 2
computer can't figur out how to continue. When we start a ping or
another program this will start on the same link but the first session
just dies or resumes only after 5 or 10 minutes. Any idee's?

We know there are problems with pentium motherboards, in fact we use a
separate 16550 multi-iocard in one of the computers for this reason.

> If you're _really_ looking for something small, use your laptops sound
> device.

I haven't found a link to this sort of software, did i overlook
something?

>
> Tom Sailer
> hb9jnx/ae4wa

Groeten Luc



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:28 1997
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From: [e-mail] (derek hutter)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Does anyone know of any 6-meter, 2-meter and 70-cm SSB kits that would
>be good to use for the Phase-3D sat when it gets in orbit.  I'm a
>college student with limited funds.  I would like to work the sat when
>it get up but can not buy the high price equipment that is needed but
>would like to build a small sat station if possible.
>
>Thanks
>
>
>Timothy
>KD4IKY

Tim,

 Down East Microwave, Steve has a WEB site.

Derek K7XD




From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:31 1997
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From: [e-mail] (L. M. Rappaport)
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"Bob Dye" <[e-mail]> wrote (with possible editing):

>I just purchased the Garmin 45XL with the data cable and did the old
>resistor "pull down" trick on the gps to computer line and the NEMA data is
>going to the computer just fine.  I then took a resistor and a diode in
>series with a zener to ground to change the -12 to +12 to 0 or +5 for the
>computer to the gps.  This works great on loop back test ect.  Delorme
>Street Atlas 4.0 and Map Expert both read/write waypoints to the GPS and I
>can't seem to get these features working.  The tracking functions work
>great.  Are the other control lines of the RS232 being used?  Anybody with
>any input I would appreciate it.  Please e-mail below.
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>Bob
>[e-mail]
>561.552.3114 Voice Mail
>
>Merry Christmas!
>
>
>
I used the control cable wired directly to the com port (via a
connector, of course) and didn't need a pull-down resistor.  I have
the GPS 45 connected to a laptop and use it with Map Expert, but so
far as I know, it doesn't read or write waypoints.  What makes you
think it does?

IAC, there are no other lines used.

Larry, W1HJF
--



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From: "Richard M. Corrigan" <[e-mail]>
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 15:57:34 +0900
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I recently heard of a cable that attaches from you Reciever to
the serial port of a computer which allows CW to be translated
by your Computer for display on your monitor.  Is this true?
I thought that a TNC was needed.  If it is true does anyone
have the pin outs to build such a cable or maybe a source that
I could contact to obtain one.

                Thanks and Merry Christmas

                       Rich
,




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unscibe
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:33 1997
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From: rob@pe1chl (Rob Janssen)
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Coffman
) writes:

>Well, you can just try all the possible control words and see which
>ones your radio understands. Note, I have the service manual for the
>IC-706 and it says *nothing* about the CI-V bus, so don't count on
>the R7100 service manual having anything on it either. In fact, until
>I got the IC-706, I didn't know how to use the CI-V bus with my
>IC-735. There's zip in its manual. Now I can make both radios talk
>with the computer.

I guess I need to find a copy of that manual, then.
I still think it is strange that one needs the manual of a recent transceiver
to be able to controle one's (older) receiver, but well...

Rob
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+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
| Rob Janssen       [e-mail] | WWWhome: http://www.pe1chl.demon.nl/ |
| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:34 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Pedro Braz)
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 96 16:24:02 GMT
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Hello All.

Hello and Merry Christmas to you all.

I've bought a KenWood TM-251E and want to expand the receive band, I can't
find any mods on the internet, does anybody lnow how to do it?

e-mail: [e-mail]


                        thks
Pedro



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:35 1997
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From: Peter Bennett <[e-mail]>
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Bob Dye wrote:
>
> I just purchased the Garmin 45XL with the data cable and did the old
> resistor "pull down" trick on the gps to computer line and the NEMA data is
> going to the computer just fine.  I then took a resistor and a diode in
> series with a zener to ground to change the -12 to +12 to 0 or +5 for the
> computer to the gps.  This works great on loop back test ect.  Delorme
> Street Atlas 4.0 and Map Expert both read/write waypoints to the GPS and I
> can't seem to get these features working.  The tracking functions work
> great.  Are the other control lines of the RS232 being used?  Anybody with
> any input I would appreciate it.  Please e-mail below.

I use a Garmin 65 connected directly to a PC serial port with no
resistors, diodes, or other level translation scheme - works just fine
with both my desktop and notebook computers.

To transfer waypoints, the Garmin receivers must be set to use Garmin
protocol, not NMEA.

You might want to look at the Garmin45 FAQ, and the info on NMEA
interfacing, in my ftp directory (URLs below)  (also programs for Garmin
comms and NMEA display...)


--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI    Vancouver, B.C., Canada
email: [e-mail], [e-mail]
GPS and NMEA info and programs:
ftp://sundae.triumf.ca/pub/peter/index.html
or:
ftp://ftp-i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/arndt/GPS/peter/index.html
or: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter/index.html


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:38 1997
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From: Tom Woolner <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: CW Interface
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In article <[e-mail]>, "Richard M. Corrigan"
<[e-mail]> writes
>I recently heard of a cable that attaches from you Reciever to
>the serial port of a computer which allows CW to be translated
>by your Computer for display on your monitor.  Is this true?
>I thought that a TNC was needed.  If it is true does anyone
>have the pin outs to build such a cable or maybe a source that
>I could contact to obtain one.
>
Yes it's true.  The cable has a small pcb enclosed in the 25pin D
connector, mounting a simple limiter amp. e.g. 741.  This is powered from
spare lines on the COM port.

The software - HamCom - drives the lines high + and low - for the rail
supplies and it polls a line from the amp. output at high speed.  It senses
data present and calculates validity and data value from the results.   This
can be code, rtty, hffax, etc.

Regards,
--
Tom Woolner



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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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Subject: Re: CW Interface
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Tom Woolner <[e-mail]> wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>, "Richard M. Corrigan"
><[e-mail]> writes
>>I recently heard of a cable that attaches from you Reciever to
>>the serial port of a computer which allows CW to be translated
>>by your Computer for display on your monitor.  Is this true?
>>I thought that a TNC was needed.  If it is true does anyone
>>have the pin outs to build such a cable or maybe a source that
>>I could contact to obtain one.
>>
>Yes it's true.  The cable has a small pcb enclosed in the 25pin D
>connector, mounting a simple limiter amp. e.g. 741.  This is powered from
>spare lines on the COM port.

>The software - HamCom - drives the lines high + and low - for the rail
>supplies and it polls a line from the amp. output at high speed.  It senses
>data present and calculates validity and data value from the results.   This
>can be code, rtty, hffax, etc.

>Regards,
>--
>Tom Woolner

Richard,
     Check this page:

http://www.concentric.net/~n9zle/hc.html

Bruce, N9ZLE sells the hardware interface you need, and will give you the
HamComm/JVFax shareware you need to make it work.  It plugs into a
serial port on your computer, copies CW, RTTY, PACKET (crude form), SSTV,
and WEFAX pictures.  It costs a whopping $20 usually, but they are on sale
for $15 for Christmas.  Once you get the software, there are schematics in
the DOC files to show you how to build other interfaces if you are interested.
I bought one a few months ago, and use if for HF WEFAX pictures, and it
works great.  Be aware that there isn't any hardware that copies 'perfect'
CW.  How well any of the hardware devises copy is very dependent on the
strength of the received signal and the way the CW is being sent.

73, Jim KH2D




From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:39 1997
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Wondering if someone has a solution for minimizing the buzz on the
computer speakers when the radio transmits a packet.

Am using a Radio Shack HTX 212 with a Kantronics KPC-3.  Have the radio
set at low power-10 watts output.  Evertime the TNC commands a packet
transmission I hear a buzz over the speakers.  I have the TNC and radio
setting on top of my computer tower which is along side my monitor.  The
speakers are on a shelf above the computer.  All the leads for the
computer, radio, speakers, power, and telephone are in a big tangled
mess behind the system.

Any ideas?

73 de Jim, KJ7QX


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:41 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Affonso Beato)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Portable Packet??
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 08:19:39 GMT
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[e-mail] (Digna E. Eads) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Winfield S. Heagy) wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I am thinking of trying to make a small, portable packet rig using
>>an HP48 as the terminal.  Does anyone have any experience with this?
>>I plan to use a 2m HT as the transmitter, and am looking for some
>>advice on a small, inexpensive TNC that will work with the HP48.
>>I am currently using a KPC-3, but would like something cheaper,
>>and possibly even smaller.  Any ideas?
>>
>>Thanks...Win
>>
>>
>>--
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>|| //////// V I R G I N I A    T E C H    C O M P U T E R    S C I E N C E
>>||//  //                       W i n   H e a g y
>>|//  //     [e-mail]   http://csgrad.cs.vt.edu/~heagy/
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>Win,
>You could look at the BayCom TNC's, or , there is one advertised in CQ
>that is inside of a DB-25 RS-232 connector. Personally, I would stay
>with what you presently have. I use a KPC-3, TI Extensia 515 Notebook
>Pentium 100 computer & Icom HT for portable packet.
>73's & Merry Christmas.
>Bill

I use a Tigertronics BP-2 Baycom type device with an HP200LX Palmtop
runnnig Baycom 1.60 and  an Kenwood 79A HT. Works great...

Affonso

look at www.tigertronics.com


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:41 1997
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From: [e-mail] (John Galt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Zaurus and packet radio?
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 09:12:41 GMT
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Has any body used a Sharp Zaurus 5800 on packet?  If so how did you
hook up your modem(thru the pcmcia slot or the 15 pin connector?)  Did
you just use the terminal program on the Zaurus?  Thanks.

73 de Bud
Bud
omne ignotum pro magnifico


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:43 1997
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From: [e-mail] (John Ackermann)
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In article <59oh9o$[e-mail]> Tadeusz Bienkowski <[e-mail]> writes
:

I remember reading information by Bdale Garbe, N3EUA and Glenn Elmore N6GN
about their 10GHz 2mbps packet link, which used an IBM networking card as the
interface.

They experimented with slowing down ethernet cards to 2mbps, and were unable
to make them work.  I believe they found that there are timing constants for
10mbps hard-wired into the ethernet chipsets, and therefore they won't work at

any other speed (either slower or faster).

John AG9V
[e-mail]


>Hello friends
>A few months ago I was intrested in using analog TV SAT receiver (without
>LNC) to make data link with Ethernet cards as PC interface.
>The experimental socket on the table does not work because
>IF band is ~27 MHz FM but video band after demodulation is only ~5MHz.
>Then I replaced the clock cristals on the ethernet cards from oryginal 20
>to 10MHz in direct connected PC to PC.   But it did not work too.
>Transmit signal seems to be good. I think the problem is in receive
>direction. It's caused probably by bad slave-receive clock on the
>ethernet card. Then I stoped further experiments. I hadn't got test
>equipment to answer that question.
>Using 2Mbps modems G703 HDB3, link works correctly.
>Do you have any experience in simple I/O electronic modules well
>cooperating with ethernet 10baseT card (tranceiver)
>I would be intrested in electric schemas of such modules.
>Merry Christmas and a happy new year!



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:44 1997
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From: rob@pe1chl (Rob Janssen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: [Q] Slowing down Ethernet cards not possible? Why?
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In <59mquj$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Glenn Elmore) writes:

>  The theory that it isn't possible came from one/some of the designers
>of an Ethernet chip set by way of N6RCE who was orignially going to use
>Ethernat cards with my RF hardware.  As I mention on the above pages, I
>still do not understand why it isn't possible.  I can see nothing in the
>silicon which is even capable of knowing that it's running at, say 15
>MHz instead of 20 MHz.

>  So far, to my knowledge, no one has performed the simple experiment of
>taking a pair of cards and replaced the clock with a signal generator
>and decreased the frequency to see where things fail.

Of course the pulse transformer may cause some lower limit.
(it cannot transfer DC so there must be some frequency at which it can
no longer adequately transfer the manchester-encoded data)

I agree that it is unlikely that the chip has any problem with a small
reduction in clock frequency.  The designer probably was thinking about
the limits of the clock frequency *while talking to a standard ethernet*,
which are probably fairly tight.

Things that could cause problems:
- dynamic memory or other dynamic design inside the chip
- clock recovery circuits using filtering or a VCO not depending on the
  clock frequency, but based on analog circuits (partly) integrated in
  the chip
- in the case of ISA-special chips: the chip might not expect that the
  busclock (8 MHz) is higher than the chip clock (usually 20 MHz for
  10 Mbit/s operation)

A dynamic design that was meant for 10 Mbit/s and designed with all kinds
of safety margins will probably work "ok" for amateur use at 2 Mbit/s.
When you use an "old" card with a general-purpose ethernet controller
chip, the bus clock should not be a problem.  It might be with those
"everything in one square block" controllers?  But those were not common
at the time the original comment was written.

Rob
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:45 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Tanner)
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Subject: Looking for multi-mode TNC software
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I have an MFJ-1278BT and my friend has a KAM PLUS multi-mode TNC's.
We are looking for a software package that will operate on both tnc's
for packet, amtor, pactor, RTTY, etc.  I tried Lan Link 232 but it
really pissed off my 1278!  I couldn't use it.

We are looking for a software package that will simplify the tasks of
"turn overs", connecting, etc.  Since I don't get a chance to check
this news group regularly, I'd appreciate any responces come to my
e-mail address;  [e-mail]

Tnx in advance es 73's
Mike WB5NLJ



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:46 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Malloy)
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Subject: APRS On HP200lx
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I am trying to use APRS on my HP200lx. I have got the program running but
can only seem to display the usa.map. None of the local maps in my maps
folder show up. In maplist folder I have maplist.usa and maplist.mid and
a personal edited list. Any thing I am missing here?

--

Michael J. Malloy                          Amateur Radio: N9WJV
Medical College of Wisconsin               Voice: 414-384-2000 Ext.2129
Milwaukee, Wisconsin                       Email: [e-mail]




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From: [e-mail] (Jay O'Brien - W6GO)
Subject: email address for X1J author?
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Does anyone have a current email address for Dave Roberts, G8KBB, the
author of the X1J4 software?  I sent him a holiday greeting message
(which also restated our network's gratitude for his work) and it bounced
when sent to the address I had on file.  Please respond directly to me.

73, Jay
    [e-mail]

--


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:47 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Dayglo)
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I have the ARRL General Class Computerized Exam Review forsale.  It is
Microsoft Windows based and contains three High Density 3.5" floppies.  First
$25 get it.  E-mail questions to [e-mail].





From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:48 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Steven Olson)
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I am in the process of connecting my yaesu ft 3000 m (9600 data ready) to
my kpc 9612 plus, with the yaesu to be the sole radio.  I am looking for
soldering suggestions, since I have to run wiring from the 9600 baud port
to the 1200 baud port (the 9 pin port).  Any tips for wiring/soldering
will be appreciated.  I call tech support today and got the pinout and am
ready to do the connections.  Please respond via email
[e-mail]    Thanks, Steve


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:49 1997
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From: [e-mail] (PATRICK STODDARD)
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Subject: Open-squelch mod for PK88?
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I have a PK88 TNC, and I have wondered if there is a modification
for it that would let me operate my radio with an open squelch on
it.  If this exists, could someone either e-mail me with the details
on how to do this, or direct me to someplace with that information
please.

TIA!
--
Patrick E. Stoddard           Internet:  [e-mail]
Glendale, Arizona, USA        AX.25:     [e-mail]
                              Facsimile: [phone]
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:50 1997
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From: "Dale Mosby" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: help connecting KAM 6 and ICOM 706
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Hello there, hope this is an appropriate newsgroup.  I spoke with a friend
earlier
today (VHF) and he is having trouble connecting a KAM 6 TNC with his ICOM
706 HF rig.  He said one of the problems was reliabily getting the PTT to
work,
if I'm recalling the conversation correctly.  If anyone has done this and
can
supply me with details I'll pass them on and certainly appreciate the help.
My e-mail address is [e-mail] so if you can help out or need
more details let me know.

73, Dale, K7FW,     [e-mail]       Oregon.




From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:51 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Tony Molina)
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Subject: Harmonic interference?
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 07:56:45 GMT
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Following on from my recent discovery of the source of my digital satellite
reception problem (interference from local cable tv "gateway box").

Does anybody have any experience with this sort of thing? Could harmonics caus
e
interference at either 1150Mhz or 4000Mhz? A scan by a good spectrum analyser
did not pick up anything unusual at either frequency though.

I believe the purpose of these large "gateway boxes" (spaced approx 1 for ever
y
1500 houses) is to feed the fibre optic signal into the main coaxial cable,
which then feeds into each individual house.

I don't know about these things but can harmonics at these frequencies be
generated by this "conversion" process (FO -> Coax) or would the power supply
of
the unit be more likely the cause?

Of course, I'm particularly interested to hear of possible remedies to stop
whatever is coming out of these boxes from reaching my dish (about 100 metres
away). If the cable tv company let me I'd go up there myself and line the insi
de
of the box with aluminium foil or lead sheeting. Don't think that is likely.

Any suggestions?


Cheers

= Tony =

 ,-._|\   Melbourne, AUSTRALIA
/  Oz  \  Internet: [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:52 1997
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From: Roger Barker <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Open-squelch mod for PK88?
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In article <59vifn$[e-mail]>, PATRICK STODDARD
<[e-mail]> writes
>
>I have a PK88 TNC, and I have wondered if there is a modification
>for it that would let me operate my radio with an open squelch on
>it.  If this exists, could someone either e-mail me with the details
>on how to do this, or direct me to someplace with that information
>please.

The TAPR DCD State Machine kit can be fitted to the PK88.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE  [e-mail]
Boston, UK           "Be tolerant of everything, except for intolerance!"


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:53 1997
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From: BV1AL <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: packet radio and tcp/ip.
Date: 27 Dec 1996 16:41:21 GMT
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You may try http://www.altavista.digital.com
to search the keyword "KA9Q", lots of sites contained
this DOS TCP/IP for Ham and also for Internet connections.

--
TAIWAN Ham Radio BV1AL
http://linux.csie.nctu.edu.tw/~bv1al/




From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:54 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Gunshannon)
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Subject: Re: [Q] Slowing down Ethernet cards not possible? Why?
Date: 27 Dec 1996 16:55:04 GMT
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In article <E30oAv.HGK@pe1chl>, rob@pe1chl (Rob Janssen) writes:
|>
|> A dynamic design that was meant for 10 Mbit/s and designed with all kinds
|> of safety margins will probably work "ok" for amateur use at 2 Mbit/s.
|> When you use an "old" card with a general-purpose ethernet controller
|> chip, the bus clock should not be a problem.  It might be with those
|> "everything in one square block" controllers?  But those were not common
|> at the time the original comment was written.
|>

Hey, maybe you have finally found a use for all those 3C501 cards that
seem to still be around.  Then maybe people will stop trying to do
Ethernet with them!!

bill  KB3YV

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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:55 1997
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From: "Brian K. Short" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Digital Journal Mismanagement?
Date: 27 Dec 1996 11:03:02 -0700
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Please excuse the negative tone of this information, but I am just
forwarding it and folks do seem quite interested.

I do not know of a "replacement" journal."  QST Jan 1997 had a
nice review of the SCS PTC-II Pactor II controller.  They have had
several advanced digital articles lately.  I have not seen nearly the
coverage of Clover ANYWHERE else...

I personally will miss the "RTTY Journal."  I received it back in the
80's and while not a glitzy, glossy publication at that time, I enjoyed
reading it.  As you know, the "RTTY Journal" has been around for
quite a number of years (I've only been a ham since 1974 myself).

Many have commented about the economic realities of amateur radio
organizations (shrinking numbers, reluctant sponsors), but also there
has been a large trend to distribute information (more quickly and also
more efficiently) via internet.  Internet provides EVERYONE with access
to "publish."  There really are no editors/censors etc on internet (for
good or bad).

Personally, if anyone has information of publication quality (or
otherwise),
I would be happy to include it in my web page(s) or include a link.

73, Brian  http://www.primenet.com/~ke7gh/

-----

All I know is that I --and presumably everyone else-- received a
plaintive plea for support from IDRA/DJ earlier this month, with the
declaration that the mag was gg bimonthly. I responded with a show of
faith-- a check for $32.

So, on the one hand, we have a statement about reorganization and staff
changes and a plea for support, answered in my case. On the other hand,
we have a flat statement from the departing Editor that the show is
over.

Which is it, please?
--
Garry Shapiro, NI6T
Editor, The DXer


I don't want to seem like a Monday morning quarterback, but...

I seem to recall in a recent DJ, there were comments about paying off
debt ahead of schedule (correct me if I'm wrong).

I'm no economist, but I do run small business. The way I see it, one
should not retire debt early, unless there is an ABUNDANCE of cash
flow.  If anything, debt should be refinanced to extend the term and
decrease each payment, to try to salvage the company during a cash
flow crunch.
Can anyone explain?
73 Barry
--
Barry Kutner, W2UP                           Internet: [e-mail]
Newtown, PA                   FRC            alternate:
[e-mail]


Just sent my $25 off for next years subscription. Guess I can write that
money off as gone. Taught me a lesson about backing things. I got the
thing about bi monthly and saw no real problem with it. Did not know
that
meant NO monthly.

Well it was AEA and now the DJ. Wonder what is next? ARRL wanted all
these
no code techs and now we have all these no code extras (doctor waviers)
who do not know a diddle from dit and the hobby suffers.

Off soapbox and going to work on antennas for Rtty Roundup.

73 Jim
           **********************************************************
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:56 1997
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From: Michael Wiley <[e-mail]>
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:58 1997
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From: Michael Wiley <[e-mail]>
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Subject: JNOS - need Help compiling JNOS
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 16:30:58 -0600
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Recently I tried to compile a JNOS program using WG7J source code.
The Bourland C++ ver 3.0 -IDE would not run the makefile, also
It doesn't have a TASM. Im not by any means a programmer, but I did
get some of the small programs in the textbook I borrowed to compile and
run.  Hope to find a knowledgeable Amateur who will take the time
to assist me.

Sincerely
WB5GMK Mike Wiley

email is [e-mail] should be changing to [e-mail] soon.


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:26:59 1997
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From: rob@pe1chl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: [Q] Slowing down Ethernet cards not possible? Why?
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In <5a0v19$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bill Gunshannon) writes:

>In article <E30oAv.HGK@pe1chl>, rob@pe1chl (Rob Janssen) writes:
>|>
>|> A dynamic design that was meant for 10 Mbit/s and designed with all kinds
>|> of safety margins will probably work "ok" for amateur use at 2 Mbit/s.
>|> When you use an "old" card with a general-purpose ethernet controller
>|> chip, the bus clock should not be a problem.  It might be with those
>|> "everything in one square block" controllers?  But those were not common
>|> at the time the original comment was written.
>|>

>Hey, maybe you have finally found a use for all those 3C501 cards that
>seem to still be around.  Then maybe people will stop trying to do
>Ethernet with them!!

Could be, but there was a whole generation of ethernet cards after
the 3c501 that used general-purpose ethernet controllers.
These include the 3c503, wd8010, ne2000 etc etc.

What I meant by "everything in one square block" controllers are cards
like the 3c509.

Rob
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:00 1997
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From: "FOSTIRAS GEORGE" <[e-mail]>
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--
HAM RADIO STATION  SV4KJ
op.GEORGE K. FOSTIRAS
internet adr.: [e-mail]
packet adr.: [e-mail]
          post address:
GEORGE K. FOSTIRAS
2Mesologgiou str.
43100 KARDITSA
HELLAS

J. Miner <[e-mail]> wrote in article <[e-mail]>...
> Hello,
>
> I am running F6FBB's Packet BBS for DOS version 5.15c.  Currently I am
> using the QRZ Disk for call information.  I would like to use Radio
> Amateur Callbook, but I can not find any servers for use with FBB.  Can
> someone please help!
>
> Thanks and 73,
> Jon N2XFZ
>
> --
>      |     \  |_)
>      |    |\/ | | __ \   _ \  __|  Email: [e-mail]
>  \   |    |   | | |   |  __/ |     WWW:
> http://www.qed.net/jminer/n2xfz.htm
> \___/_)  _|  _|_|_|  _|\___|_|
>
hi Jon ,I 'm George SV4KJ from a smal city in central part ,of greece and
I'm looking for programm PPWIN for PK232MBX programm but for windows 95 ,if
you any iformatyion ,send me a message
MARRY XMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEWR
GEORGE
SV4KJ


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:01 1997
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From: Jimmy <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KaGold
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:53:43 -0800
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James McCloskey wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone out there has any comments, good or bad
> about KaGold software for my Kam plus Tnc. Any comments will be
> appreciated. 73 de Jim, KE3OP ..._._

Jim, I have use PKgold, KAgold and Pkdualport all by Interflex. Kagold
the longest, with great results. The support, don't think you will find
none better...The test drive is ok to get a feel for what it can do.
73...Jim-KB6MEG
--
Have a great     @..@
day, C-YA       (----)
later....      ( >__< )
--Jim--        ^^ ~~ ^^


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:02 1997
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From: Madjid <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: CW Interface
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:27:42 -0500
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Richard M. Corrigan wrote:
>
> I recently heard of a cable that attaches from you Reciever to
> the serial port of a computer which allows CW to be translated
> by your Computer for display on your monitor.  Is this true?
> I thought that a TNC was needed.  If it is true does anyone
> have the pin outs to build such a cable or maybe a source that
> I could contact to obtain one.

Yes it can be done with just one op-amp and a PCB
the size of the RS232 connector. Get Hamcomm (see below)
there is a schematics inside for simple and more complex
interfaces.

http://oak.oakland.edu:8080/pub/hamradio/arrl/bbs/programs/hamcom31.exe

There is also on the Web someone selling some cheap interfaces for
Hamcomm (never tested one but must be a one op-amp solution too)
  http://www.cris.com/~n9zle/hc.html

-------------------
Madjid, VE2GMI - Home Page: http://www.CAM.ORG/~mboukri
NEC4WIN Antenna simulation for Windows


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:03 1997
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From: Rick Davis <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: IC-706 computer control interface electrical specification
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:53:11 -0500
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Does anybody know what the electrical spec is on the IC-706?
It looks like a three wire interface using a 1/8" stereo
plug.  I would assume that the signals are TXdata, RXdata, and
Ground.  I would also assume that these are TTL levels.
Can anybody confirm this and identify the pins of the plug?
Thanks in advance.
rd

Rick Davis
WD5EBU
[e-mail]
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:04 1997
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From: Larry <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: AEA Closing Shop?
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:57:53 -0600
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Jim wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone!
>
> There is a rumor going around my town that AEA is closing shop? Is there any
> truth to this?
>
> Just checking for another local ham...
>
> 73's and Happy Holidays de
>
> Jim Jefferson KB0THN
> http://www.luminet.net/~cjeffers/       Jim's KB0THN Satellite Page!

I tried to call AEA today for help on my DSP-232. Got an answering
machine that says they are in the process of selling the business and to
contact the ARRL in about a month for information. It does'nt look good.
Knew I should have bought a Kantronics!

Larry - KA9LIY
Minooka, IL


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:05 1997
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From: Larry <[e-mail]>
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Subject: DSP-232 Problem
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:05:11 -0600
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My DSP-232 will not allow connectee's to get to the mailbox. Mail is
turned on but users do not get the mail connect text or the mail prompt.
I do get a message with their callsign and "(mailbox)" appended behind.
Any ideas?

Larry - KA9LIY
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:06 1997
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From: John Christian <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Maybe YOU can help with MYSTERY box !!
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 03:56:58 GMT
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We recently came back from an older family members house with a little
mystery device.  No one knows what it is and we'd like to find out.
Here's a description of what we found:

It is a rather small wooden box with a laquered finish.  It is about
11" wide by 12" deep by 9" tall.  The top is not perfectly flat on top,
instead it has a slight roll in it from back to front -presumeably
asthetics. (It seems to be circa '50's)

On the top is what looks sorta like a rotary telephone dial only slightly
larger (and it's not a telephone dial).  There is a circle of finger
depressions around the edge of the plastic disk.  Corosponding to the
finger depressions are recessed clear plastic rectangular slots.  Some
of the slots have four letter station identifiers under them (not sure
if TV or Radio) while some are just blank. There is also a triangular
piece of plastic that acts as a finger stop when you turn the dial.
This 'finger stop' is spring loaded and can be pressed down (with
no effect on the turning disk).

There doesn't seem to be ANY places for wires, plugs, jacks, etc. on the
outside.

The bottom unscrews so we opened it up and on the inside found...

Connected to the rotary dial is a set of gears that spin a flat
rectangle of metal.  The gearing is a very low input to high output
ratio (in other words, for each turn of the dial, the metal piece
spins A LOT of times)

The gears and the spinning metal piece are not mechanically connected
to any other stuff, nor are they wired to anything.

Encircling (but not attached to) the spinning piece of metal, is a flat
ring of [?].  It's either a flat piece of metal rolled into a circle, or
a wrapping of thin wires.  This ring is wired to some things mounted on
the base of the device.

Mounted to the bottom is a heavy, blue cardboard box with the name
"Philco" printed on it.  It appears to be a battery (maybe?) and is
wired in. There is also some sort of rheostat that can be adjusted from
the outside by inserting a screw driver in a small hole on the bottom.
Also wired in is a (I presume) vacumm tube.

This thing is completely self contained. There does not seem to be any
way for the device to communicate with another device (again, no places
for plugs, wires, etc.) nor does there seem to be any way for the device
to communicate with people.

ANY SUGGESTIONS OR IDEAS ???

The only suggestion we've had so far is that it might be a TV channel
direction finder.

Thanks in advance for any help or ideas!!

-John


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:07 1997
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From: keith mcdonnell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: L.I.N.Y. pkt freqs needed
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 23:08:03 -0500
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I am new to the Long Island N.Y. area, and would like to know what are
the most popular pkt freqs here for bbs and general qso's. Thank you all
in advance, 73, keith kg2ix.


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:09 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Michael C. McHugh (TA2ZG/W2AV))
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Carolyn S & James C Krogness <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Wondering if someone has a solution for minimizing the buzz on the
>computer speakers when the radio transmits a packet.
>
>Am using a Radio Shack HTX 212 with a Kantronics KPC-3.  Have the radio
>set at low power-10 watts output.  Evertime the TNC commands a packet
>transmission I hear a buzz over the speakers.  I have the TNC and radio
>setting on top of my computer tower which is along side my monitor.  The
>speakers are on a shelf above the computer.  All the leads for the
>computer, radio, speakers, power, and telephone are in a big tangled
>mess behind the system.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>73 de Jim, KJ7QX

C'mon... this must be a troll, right?

Surely, that "big tangled mess" *has* to be the place to start :).

Good luck and 73 -

de Mike (TA2ZG/W2AV)     Remote Sysop TA2EM BBS - first PRBBS in Turkiye
Amateur Packet Radio:    TA2ZG@TA2EM.#IST.TUR.EU
Internet (email only):   Michael C. McHugh <[e-mail]>



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:10 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Kits for phase-3D?
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In article <[e-mail]> "Timothy S. Powell" <tpowell@mindspr
ing.com> writes:
>Does anyone know of any 6-meter, 2-meter and 70-cm SSB kits that would
>be good to use for the Phase-3D sat when it gets in orbit.  I'm a
>college student with limited funds.  I would like to work the sat when
>it get up but can not buy the high price equipment that is needed but
>would like to build a small sat station if possible.
>Timothy
>KD4IKY

Well, lets see what you need. For mode U/V (the old mode B), you'll
need a 70cm Tx and a 2m Rx. Now an easy way to get these is with
transverters from a 10m rig (or an old SSB CB). The latter can be
had cheap if you don't already have something for 10m. You don't
have to convert it, you can choose the crystals in the transverters
to go direct to and from CB frequencies. You'll want to mod it to
allow enough RIT range to cover between channels, and to allow XIT
as well. This is usually pretty easy to do. Down East Microwave
sells suitable transverter kits, or you can build from scratch
based on the designs in the RSGB VHF/UHF Dx Book. A preamp will
be needed, and the ARRL Handbook and the Proceedings of the Central
States VHF Conference (available from ARRL) have several suitable
designs.

Another approach is to build a 2m Rx and 70cm Tx. The Rick Campbell
R2 and T2, described in a QST series and in newer Handbooks, are
suitable for this. Kanga sells kits, but these radios are simple
enough to build dead bug style. The R2 and T2 are universal designs
which can be made to work from LF up through UHF (up to 500 MHz
anyway). They use the phasing method to generate SSB and to obtain
single signal reception. You have to supply the LO. A VXO and
multiplier should do fine. You can find suitable VXO designs in
the Handbook. A good mast mount preamp will be required for receive,
and any of the ones referenced above should work fine. You'll need a
PA for the Tx. RF Parts sells suitable brick amps, as does Down East
Microwave. Depending on antenna gain, you'll need from 10 watts to
100 watts uplink power. Err on the side of too much, you can turn
it down if you wind up louder than the beacon.

(Note that you can set the R2 and T2 up for 10m and use transverters,
as with the CB set recomendation above, if you prefer. There are some
advantages to this approach, though it adds some complexity and cost.)

If you'd like to try your hand at digital via the satellite. A suitable
receiver for 9600 baud on P3D and the Microsats can be made from a GE
UHF Exec II or Mastr II receive strip. Use the temperature compensation
input of the Icom (channel element) for doppler tracking. These Rx
strips can be found at hamfests for $25, or $50 for a complete radio.
The UHF Tx strip can be used as a CW transmitter for mode U/V as is. With
80 watts output, they do great. For data uplink, a VHF version of the
Tx strip can be modified for 9600 baud. Disable the PM modulator and use
the temperature compensation input to the Icom for modulation (or rewire
to use a Motorola channel element and modulate that, it's a bit more
linear).

If you prefer to scratch build the FM setup, a receiver based on the
MC13135 receiver subsystem chip, and a Tx based on the MC2833 exciter
chip, are pretty easy to do. Add a power brick from RF Parts, and you're
on your way. Converting the business band radios is so easy and cheap,
though, it is really the better way to go.

P3D will have many more modes. Setting up for them will require either
more transverters or more radios. Mode U/V and the Microsat style 9600
baud digital mode will likely the be the most popular in the beginning,
however, because everyone equipped for Oscar 10 and Oscar 13 will already
be set for mode U/V and all the Microsat ground stations will be set for
9600 baud data.

You'll need a pair of steerable yagis or helixes, for mode U/V. You can
build these yourself and save a bunch of money. When the sat is near apogee,
it hangs in virtually the same spot in the sky for long periods, so you can
aim the antennas by hand, no need for auto-tracking, or even for rotators.
The antennas don't have to be very high off the ground, since they are
looking up. You can use a tripod or post mount and turn them directly
by hand as needed. The antennas can be made from a length of 2x2 and use
aluminum clothesline wire for elements. There are a number of antenna
programs available on the net which can optimize the design for you.

It doesn't have to cost gobs of money to get on the satellites if you
use a little ingenuity. You can be on the digital birds for under
$100, or on U/V SSB for a bit over $300, if you scrounge and adapt a bit.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:12 1997
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From: "Joop van der Velden" <[e-mail]>
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Peter Bennett <[e-mail]> wrote

> I use a Garmin 65 connected directly to a PC serial port with no
> resistors, diodes, or other level translation scheme - works just fine
> with both my desktop and notebook computers.

I have an I/O card with 75150 / 75154 rs232 driver/receiver chips.  This
card does not work with the TTL voltages from the Garmin.  Pull down
resistors are necessary in this case.
These serial ports are designed to comply with the rs232 standard. (
-15V<U<-3V, +15V>U>+3V)

Of course i swapped the card for a Chinese one that had no problem with
TTL...

73 Joop, pe1dna



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:13 1997
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Well here is the list.  Most of this equipment was hardly ever used.  I am
getting out of many parts of ham radio concentrating on my UHF repeater and
links to it.  I will pay for shipping.  Can do COD or check in advice.
Please pass on this message to others that may be interested.  If you are
on packet please post it on the local BBS.  Trying to generate revenue.
Thank you for your time.  People have asked if I was a smoker.  No I nor
anybody
in my home smokes.  The TS-690SAT is stock out of the factory with no extra
filters.  If interested will discuss other offers.  Need cash.  I have
references to others
that I have sold via e-mail/UPS and they were very happy.




Magellan Meridian GPS in good condition with Data Cable
$150!!

MFJ   VERSA TUNER V  GOOD
$250


KENWOOD         TS690                   EXCELLENT, WITH INTERNAL ANT TUNER
$1,200


AEA                    DSP-232               NEW IN BOX
$343


YAESU                G-5400B               EXCELLENT, WITH SEPARATOR KIT,
200'CABLE      $456



Bob
[e-mail]
561.552.3114 Voice Mail





From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:14 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Eric Schecter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Hamcomm Interface, QST 12/96
Date: 28 Dec 1996 07:54:01 -0700
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>I am searching for version 3.1 of the HamComm software as downloadable from
the Internet/WWW.
>Pls advise me of its availability and the website location.
>
>Pls e-mail
>
>
>73s es TNX
>WA2RSX
>-------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
>      http://www.dejanews.com/     Search, Read, Post to Usenet

To all who are interested in HamComm, check out the un-official HamComm page
at the following URL: http://www.accessone.com/~tmayhan/
This site has all sorts of info on the interface, problems, etc.
and you can download from this page as well.


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:15 1997
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From: "Robert W. Lewis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: AEA Closing Shop?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:24:35 -0500
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Larry wrote:
>
> Jim wrote:
> >
> > Hello Everyone!
> >
> > There is a rumor going around my town that AEA is closing shop? Is there a
ny
> > truth to this?
> >
> > Just checking for another local ham...
> >
> > 73's and Happy Holidays de
> >
> > Jim Jefferson KB0THN
> > http://www.luminet.net/~cjeffers/       Jim's KB0THN Satellite Page!
>
> I tried to call AEA today for help on my DSP-232. Got an answering
> machine that says they are in the process of selling the business and to
> contact the ARRL in about a month for information. It does'nt look good.
> Knew I should have bought a Kantronics!
>
> Larry - KA9LIY
> Minooka, IL

According to an AEA press release, "AEA is presently in the process of
selling its three product lines (Data Products, Test Analyzers, and
Antennas) to three different companies"... "The new parties will likely
offer warranty and out-of-warranty service to old AEA customers."

I understand the employees are laid off and the doors are closed. Unless
the new parties hire back the old employees, I wonder what kind of
service we will get.



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:19 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Speaker Noise Elimination
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> Carolyn S & James C Krogness <csjckrog
@3-cities.com> writes:
>Wondering if someone has a solution for minimizing the buzz on the
>computer speakers when the radio transmits a packet.
>
>Am using a Radio Shack HTX 212 with a Kantronics KPC-3.  Have the radio
>set at low power-10 watts output.  Evertime the TNC commands a packet
>transmission I hear a buzz over the speakers.  I have the TNC and radio
>setting on top of my computer tower which is along side my monitor.  The
>speakers are on a shelf above the computer.  All the leads for the
>computer, radio, speakers, power, and telephone are in a big tangled
>mess behind the system.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>73 de Jim, KJ7QX

Well, duh! You are certainly getting crosscoupling in that tangle
of wires. After that, good old RF rectification can cause the
speakers to buzz. Your first step should be to clean up that mess
and separate the RF wiring from the other wiring. Note, neatness
does not count, but separation does. The only thing worse than
the tangle you have now would be neatly bundled cabling. That
would promote even more crosscoupling. You want to arrange the
RF cabling so that it does not closely parallel the other wiring.

After you've done that, if the buzz persists, you may need ferrite
chokes on the speaker wires. Also take a look at power wiring. Are
the radio and the speakers powered from the same source? If so,
you may need to add some bypassing to the power leads to avoid
coupling via the power lines.

Gary
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es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:22 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Harmonic interference?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>Following on from my recent discovery of the source of my digital satellite
>reception problem (interference from local cable tv "gateway box").
>
>Does anybody have any experience with this sort of thing? Could harmonics cau
se
>interference at either 1150Mhz or 4000Mhz? A scan by a good spectrum analyser
>did not pick up anything unusual at either frequency though.

Most spectrum analyzers have a floor sensitivity of around -100 dbm. The
satellite signals you are receiving have a signal strength on the order
of -170 dbm. So interference which could wipe out the satellite signal
could be below the noise floor of the spectrum analyzer. Harmonics or
IMD products are almost certainly causing your problem, but they can
be very weak and still cause problems to the very very sensitive
satellite receiver.

This is a clue, however. If the shielding integrity of your system
is good, the interference shouldn't be on the 1150 MHz IF frequency.
The problem is likely to be directly on the 4 GHz frequency of the
LNB. That's the first major gain block of your system, and is most
responsive to very weak signals.

>I believe the purpose of these large "gateway boxes" (spaced approx 1 for eve
ry
>1500 houses) is to feed the fibre optic signal into the main coaxial cable,
>which then feeds into each individual house.
>
>I don't know about these things but can harmonics at these frequencies be
>generated by this "conversion" process (FO -> Coax) or would the power supply
 of
>the unit be more likely the cause?

Neither. These boxes have line amplifiers in them which amplify the
cable system signals feeding down the coax to individual homes. The
signals have to be quite strong because they will be divided so many
ways to feed all those homes. The signal level coming out of the box
will be on the order of +33 dbm, IE a couple of watts. Now this is
a linear amplifier with a very broad bandwidth, IE the entire TV
frequency spectrum, and it has signals to amplify across that entire
spectrum. Like any linear amplifier, it is not perfect. It will have
IMD products and harmonics in its output. A good CATV amplifier will
have IMD and harmonics held down -60 db from the fundamental, but
that's still a -27dbm signal ( -27dbm would be the combined output
of all products, not the level of the individual product interfering
with you, that would be lower, but still strong enough to cause a
problem).

Cable systems depend on cable integrity to prevent these unwanted
products from escaping their closed systems. But that isn't perfect
either. Cable leakage is a perennial problem with CATV systems. Any
imperfect connection anywhere in the system can allow the unwanted
signals to leak out with sufficient strength to interfere with your
very sensitive receiver.

>Of course, I'm particularly interested to hear of possible remedies to stop
>whatever is coming out of these boxes from reaching my dish (about 100 metres
>away). If the cable tv company let me I'd go up there myself and line the ins
ide
>of the box with aluminium foil or lead sheeting. Don't think that is likely.
>
>Any suggestions?

First, are you *sure* the leakage is coming *directly* from the box,
or is it perhaps being radiated from the cable feeder somewhat closer
to your receiver? The most likely points of leakage are where there
is a connector in the cabling. There's one of those at each house
drop. And often the leakage is actually from customer provided wiring
and equipment *inside* of a house. It would be unsuual for the box
itself to be the primary source of leakage.

If you are sure the leakage is coming from the box itself, and the
box is 100m away, then erect a shield fence between the box and
your dish. Use mesh, commonly called "rabbit wire" for the fence.
We often have to do this at TVRO sites to prevent off premises
signals from interfering with our commercial receiving sites.
This perimeter fencing serves double duty as a RF shield for
off premises signals, and as a security barrier for the site.
Space the fence about twice the dish diameter from the dish.
At 4 GHz, a barrier fence taller than the dish will offer over
30 db of attenuation to line of sight interference signals at
ground level. That'll probably be enough to solve your problems.

Gary
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es
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:23 1997
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From: [e-mail] (K1EL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FS: MFJ VHF Data Radio
Date: 28 Dec 1996 17:55:36 GMT
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For Sale MFJ VHF Data Radio Model 8621  Crystal Controlled 2 meter
packet radio. Has standard 145.01 MHz crystals installed. 6 months old
in like new condition, with manual and original box.  $85 plus shipping.
Selling because I need multi-frequency radio.

Steve K1EL

603 673 8092  in NH


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:25 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: IC-706 computer control interface electrical specification
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>Does anybody know what the electrical spec is on the IC-706?
>It looks like a three wire interface using a 1/8" stereo
>plug.  I would assume that the signals are TXdata, RXdata, and
>Ground.  I would also assume that these are TTL levels.
>Can anybody confirm this and identify the pins of the plug?
>Thanks in advance.

It is a 2-wire interface. Tip is CI-V data in/out and ring
is common. The levels are TTL. Icom uses a bus structure,
sort of like ethernet, for control. You need an interface
to convert this bus information to RS-232 levels and separate
the Tx and Rx signals for the computer. Icom sells the CT-17
interface for this (it is sort of like an ethernet MAU).

The message format from the interface to the radio is as follows:

FE FE 48 E0 Cn Sc |data area| FD

The two FE bytes are the frame preamble, and must be present on
every frame to or from the radio.

48 is the default IC-706 address. This can be changed in the
initial set menu if more than one radio will be on the same
CI-V bus.

E0 is the default controller address, this can be changed in
the CT-17 if more than one controller is on the same bus.

Cn is the command number byte. See command table.

Sc is the subcommand number byte. See subcommand table.

The data area is for commands requiring data, such as
direct frequency entry or memory channel selection.
It is coded in BCD, and may be of variable length depending
on the command issued.

FD is the end of message code and signals termination of
the frame. Every frame must terminate in FD.

The radio will respond to a message from the controller in
one of three ways. If it offers no reply, that means it didn't
detect a frame at all. Otherwise it will reply with a OK message
for a valid command or a NG message for an invalid command. Their
formats are fixed (except for radio and controller address bytes,
which will depend on the particular radio and controller conversing
on the bus at the moment) and are as follows.

OK message:

FE FE 48 E0 FB FD

NG message:

FE FE 48 E0 FA FD

The radio can also send information to the controller. The
format is similar to the frame format from the controller to
the radio. The key difference is that the positions of the
address bytes are reversed, IE

FE FE E0 48 Cn Sc |data area| FD

The data area is optional, and is used for commands requiring
information responses, IE what frequency the radio is currently
on or what memory channel is currently active, etc. No acknowledgement
is expected from the controller.

Note that this isn't ASCII data. The bytes are all Hex values,
and the data area is coded as BCD digits, IE 4-bit values.
By default, the IC-706 uses 5 bytes, IE 10 digits, for frequency
data, but that can be changed in the initial set menu to 4 bytes,
IE 8 digits, if an IC-735 is sharing the same CI-V bus. The initial
set menu can be used to select the baud for the CI-V bus. Default
is 19.2 kb.

Gary
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es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:26 1997
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From: [e-mail] (K1EL)
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Subject: WTB: Basic 2m FM Radio
Date: 28 Dec 1996 20:15:23 GMT
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Hi, I am looking for a basic 2 meter FM xcvr that will work well for
packet. It does not have to be anything fancy just a good solid unit. I am
putting together a packet station for a handicapped friend and cost is a
limiting factor.

Thanks es 73 de Steve K1EL
603 673 8092 in NH


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:27 1997
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From: [e-mail] (cathryn)
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Subject: Re: Open-squelch mod for PK88?
Date: 28 Dec 1996 22:57:37 GMT
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>The TAPR DCD State Machine kit can be fitted to the PK88.

I have a PK-232, and, err, I don't know if I understand what exactly
the DCD mod does.  Would this help me on HF?

I'm considering moving up to some kind of DSP box for higher speed
modes.  I just have to find someone to talk to in the SF Bay Area. (Berkeley)
Is there any way to get Pactor 2 with a decent modem for less than $500?



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>I'm no economist, but I do run small business. The way I see it, one
>should not retire debt early, unless there is an ABUNDANCE of cash
>flow.  If anything, debt should be refinanced to extend the term and
>decrease each payment, to try to salvage the company during a cash
>flow crunch.

Here's my theory.  Suppose you own a business that has some cash around,
a bit of debt, but you see very little opportunity for profits in the future.
How do you get out now before everything implodes?  I'd say, you pay off
as much debt as possible, close the shop, to cut costs and sell off as
many assets as possible.  With luck you won't stiff anyone and will live
to fight again.  Running these things into the ground is, imo, not the
best way to go as you'll take suppliers down with you.



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:30 1997
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From: Bob Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: JNOS - need Help compiling JNOS
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Michael Wiley wrote:
>
> Recently I tried to compile a JNOS program using WG7J source code.
> The Bourland C++ ver 3.0 -IDE would not run the makefile, also
> It doesn't have a TASM. Im not by any means a programmer, but I did
> get some of the small programs in the textbook I borrowed to compile and
> run.  Hope to find a knowledgeable Amateur who will take the time
> to assist me.

I thought Borland C3.0 included TASM.  Are you sure that you don't have
Turbo C++ instead of Borland C++?  In any case, since some of the newer
versions do not include TASM, the assembled .obj files are available
from the JNOS site, pc.usl.edu for the later versions of JNOS (1.11x5 is
the newest version).

Try running 'make' from the directory which has the source, rather than
using IDE.  Be sure that /borlandc/bin is in your path.  You will need
to edit makefile to put in the right compiler version and path, as well
as processor version.

73, Bob

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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:31 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Wolverine)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: soundcard radio modem for us
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:01:49 GMT
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[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Benedic
t P. Barszcz) writes:
>>Hi all,
>>not long ago messages started to appear on different newsgroups about
>>soundcard/modem being developed for radioamatuer use. I know that
>>Thomas Sailer has started to offer software suitable to transmit faxes
>>over radio with the help of a sound card. There is another project
>>though, to convert a SB soundcard into a 9600 modem. Sounds
>>revolutionary given the fact that PI Card costs $120 and a sound card
>>about $29-39 and is ready for use.
>>How do you, folks, percept the whole project? Do you know anything
>>more about it. How is it going to affect out community?
>
>Well, here's my cut at it. There are two approaches being used
>with sound cards. One uses sound cards with on-board DSP, like
>the Cardinal cards with the Analog Devices chipset. With these,
>you can download a modem program to the DSP and let it run, then
>process the data with the PC's processor. By dividing the work
>this way, you can have a complex modem and not tax the PC. The
>downside is that sound cards with programable DSP are rare, and
>more expensive.
>
>The other approach uses an ordinary sound card merely for its
>A/D and D/A capabilities and does all signal processing on the
>main microprocessor in the PC. This limits you to very simple
>modems unless the PC has a lot of horsepower. But PCs are gaining
>more horsepower every day, and a 200 MHz Pentium Pro is equivalent
>to a mid-level dedicated DSP processor. When the new PCs with
>microprocessors with MMX extensions hit the market in force,
>DSP on the main PC will become much better. I expect that
>eventually this will be the way all but the most advanced
>modems will be implemented.

That's the MAIN TARGET.

All you need is a programmer to get is hands dirty.
(BTW I am C/C++ Intermediate/beginner Level Programmer :-)
My problem is I cann't say the same to HAM, digital signals,
and DSP :( )

>I think this will be a good thing for the digital community
>in a couple of ways. First, we won't need a bunch of separate
>hardware boxes to do various digital methods. We'll just load
>a different program on the PC. And second, every ham will have
>a DSP development platform, his PC, and won't need all kinds
>of hardware development tools to do DSP development. This could
>lead to an explosion of new methods and new programs being
>developed. Out of that may come things better than we know
>how to do now with our hardware boxes.

Agree, the biggest problem I think there is in decode digital
signals is on the receiver/transreceivers because they have
a interface for control the receiver/transreceiver BUT, normally
thosen't have OTHER interface for receive the Digital Signals and
decode them, If WE have this, thing go much easyer, and the
horsepower of the PC (also the software) will do all.

Why do not HAM's/scanners begin to request to receiver/transreceivers
manufactors to include a dsp processor and other interface for RX/TX
of digital signals? It's not a bad idea(I think)?

RS232C speed limit 115.2kBits/S


>For now, however, we still need a hardware assist for complex
>modems, like PACTOR II uses, and we still need high speed
>digital interfaces, like the PI-2 card, for things like the
>56 kb RF modem. No sound card can handle 56 kb yet, and
>likely won't be able to in the future either because the
>top sound card sampling rate is 44 kHz (like a CD), and
>that's limited by Nyquist to handling signals no faster
>than 22 kHz. There's no reason to offer a *sound* card
>which can handle anything faster than that. (Multimedia
>*video* accelerator cards might be pressed into service
>for higher speed data, but they're pretty specialized and
>might not have the required flexibility. I'm keeping an
>open mind on that.)

I have to agree it's very limit, I just hope my previous
idea will help.

BTW take a look at this

URL http://www.winradio.net.au

It's fantastic ... this is a PC card that received radio signals
from 500khz to 1.3Ghz, with software to control the card, and there
is also a api spec if you want to make your own software to control
the card.

If a card like this ALSO have a DSP processor built-in or other
PC card with a DSP processor with a connection for a audio cable from
the record line out of a receiver or transreceiver ... well, I think
that you get the picture.


Miguel Moura (aka Wolverine)
[e-mail]
Portugal


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:32 1997
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From: [e-mail] (R. Dale Piedfort)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: DXER.COM is back online
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:54:24 GMT
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"WE'RE BACK", "DXER.COM" "Your Ham Radio Resource Site"
is back on line and ready to provide you with the most
comprehensive ham radio related site on the Internet...

Stop by and check it out..29 indexes.  Everything from
DX Clubs, EME, Packet Radio, Scanners, Shortwave, QRP,
Maritime, Callbooks, Contest Calendars, Software, Clusters.
Radio Modifications, Sarex, Mir, MARS and many others.
Many more links have been added and we are now approaching
500 links, with more to come...

In addition to the interactive BBS, we will be adding in
the near future a Ham E-Mail Callbook...

Stop on by "http://www.dxer.com" and let us know what you
think, and what you would like to see added to the ever
growing list of links..



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:34 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Fiber)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: IC-706 computer control interface electrical specification
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 06:00:52 GMT
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[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>>
>>Does anybody know what the electrical spec is on the IC-706?
>>It looks like a three wire interface using a 1/8" stereo
>>plug.  I would assume that the signals are TXdata, RXdata, and
>>Ground.  I would also assume that these are TTL levels.
>>Can anybody confirm this and identify the pins of the plug?
>>Thanks in advance.

>It is a 2-wire interface. Tip is CI-V data in/out and ring
>is common. The levels are TTL. Icom uses a bus structure,
>sort of like ethernet, for control. You need an interface
>to convert this bus information to RS-232 levels and separate
>the Tx and Rx signals for the computer. Icom sells the CT-17
>interface for this (it is sort of like an ethernet MAU).

>The message format from the interface to the radio is as follows:

>FE FE 48 E0 Cn Sc |data area| FD

>The two FE bytes are the frame preamble, and must be present on
>every frame to or from the radio.

>48 is the default IC-706 address. This can be changed in the
>initial set menu if more than one radio will be on the same
>CI-V bus.

>E0 is the default controller address, this can be changed in
>the CT-17 if more than one controller is on the same bus.

>Cn is the command number byte. See command table.

>Sc is the subcommand number byte. See subcommand table.

>The data area is for commands requiring data, such as
>direct frequency entry or memory channel selection.
>It is coded in BCD, and may be of variable length depending
>on the command issued.

>FD is the end of message code and signals termination of
>the frame. Every frame must terminate in FD.

>The radio will respond to a message from the controller in
>one of three ways. If it offers no reply, that means it didn't
>detect a frame at all. Otherwise it will reply with a OK message
>for a valid command or a NG message for an invalid command. Their
>formats are fixed (except for radio and controller address bytes,
>which will depend on the particular radio and controller conversing
>on the bus at the moment) and are as follows.

>OK message:

>FE FE 48 E0 FB FD

>NG message:

>FE FE 48 E0 FA FD

>The radio can also send information to the controller. The
>format is similar to the frame format from the controller to
>the radio. The key difference is that the positions of the
>address bytes are reversed, IE

>FE FE E0 48 Cn Sc |data area| FD

>The data area is optional, and is used for commands requiring
>information responses, IE what frequency the radio is currently
>on or what memory channel is currently active, etc. No acknowledgement
>is expected from the controller.

>Note that this isn't ASCII data. The bytes are all Hex values,
>and the data area is coded as BCD digits, IE 4-bit values.
>By default, the IC-706 uses 5 bytes, IE 10 digits, for frequency
>data, but that can be changed in the initial set menu to 4 bytes,
>IE 8 digits, if an IC-735 is sharing the same CI-V bus. The initial
>set menu can be used to select the baud for the CI-V bus. Default
>is 19.2 kb.

>Gary
>--
>Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
>Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp addres
ses
>534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
>Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

The CI-V interface is a basically open interface.  ICOM throw it out there for
others to use.  TenTec uses the ICOM designed CI-V interface along with
Optoelectronics.

Generally most ICOM radios default at 1200 baud, not 19.2 KBaud.   The nice
this about the CI-V interface is you can chain many radios together at one
time.

Think of a contest station where one computer does all the logging and all the
radios report to that one computer at the same time.  All the program needs to
do is to poll the various radios that are attached as they are sorted out usin
g
a different address for each radio.

Gary



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:35 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Dexter N. Muir)
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Greetings, all...

   There have been hiccups in the Digest distribution, somewhere between my
provider (massey.ac.nz) and ucsd.edu, and I am missing the following Digests:

486
492
495 and
516

    They are not in the archive: the script only processes one Digest per
day.  I archive these for local Hams, and try my best to get them all... and
one or two of the current threads are of interest to me. Has anyone trapped
these, who could email them to me (Mime attachments OK)?
   This is a second posting: I had no replies earlier, and 516 has since
slipped through the cracks...

73 de ZL3LH.

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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:41 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Mike)
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Subject: Re: help with baycom
Date: 29 Dec 1996 02:14:25 -0500
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Luc Bos ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
: > If you're _really_ looking for something small, use your laptops sound
: > device.
:
: I haven't found a link to this sort of software, did i overlook
: something?
:
: Groeten Luc
:
Trying looking up Flexnet's web page.  Usually just typing Flexnet on
webcrawler brings up their page.

Mike

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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:42 1997
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From: "Lorenzo & Katrina Baldwin" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Pro & Cons on Cordless Telephone Headsets????
Date: 29 Dec 1996 11:01:43 GMT
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Hello everyone....I hate to intrude but I'm doing some research on the
cordless telephone headset.  Would you all please take a moment and reply
with some pros and cons on cordless telephone headset?

Thanks,
L & K


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:43 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Trash)
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Subject: Re: www.hamradio-online.com: How Your Government Can Monitor Your Communications
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 96 11:07:13 GMT
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In article <59pq6i$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (
Michael P. Deignan) wrote:

>>With permission, we've reprinted a fascinating story from CovertAction
>>Quarterly, on worldwide government agencies ability to monitor your email,
> FAX,
>>computer and voice communications.
>
>Old news. Government agencies have had the capability for years.

  And they're still trying to work out what to do with it other than testing
it on 0055 numbers !!!


Ash



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:45 1997
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From: Regev Oded <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Sound Blaster uses for Hams
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:41:33 +0200
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Hello !

I have been working lately on developing
software for using the Sound Blaster.
I have already written a Sound Blaster
interface for JVFAX. It can receive ALL the
modes, Fax Sstv even AM-FAX from satellites.
The JV-FAX program by DK8JV has many advantages
such as GIF file format and compatibility with
many screens etc.

The interface itself requires no additional harware
except some wires to connect your Sound Blaster
to the TX/RX. (Even a microphone works
but highly unrecommended)

I am looking for the EMAIL address of DK8JV to ask
him some questions I have about the interface. I hope
someone can help me find him and I'll be able to release
the program then.

Another thing I've been working on is trying to
receieve some Packet modes. I saw a program that
does that with 1200 and 9600 baud. So I wrote
a BPSK decoder. It works well at times but it has difficulties
in achieving a constant lock on satellite signals (Doppler
is the problem).

If anyone has a source code for a good BPSK decoder
I would appreciate if you will send me so I'll be able
to complete the decoder. Another thing I need is
a development kit for FlexNet. FlexNet is the program
that allows such decoders to be easily interface with
programs like GP, SP, TPK... I don't know where to get
it and until then I only see the received packets on
the screen without any program really seeing the information.

73's to all, DE Oded - 4Z5BS


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:46 1997
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From: [e-mail] (cathryn)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Maybe YOU can help with MYSTERY box !!
Date: 29 Dec 1996 11:50:19 GMT
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>On the top is what looks sorta like a rotary telephone dial only slightly
>larger (and it's not a telephone dial).  There is a circle of finger
>depressions around the edge of the plastic disk.  Corosponding to the
>finger depressions are recessed clear plastic rectangular slots.  Some
>of the slots have four letter station identifiers under them (not sure
>if TV or Radio) while some are just blank. There is also a triangular

Boy, I stumbled across one of these things as a kid -- and it was old back
in the 70's.  I figured it was part of a radio back then, though I didn't have
the radio to go with it.

Anyway, the mystery for me was solved when I saw an old movie, I don't remembe
r
the name of it unfortunately, where they had exactly the weird phone
type control you describe.  And they use it to tune in radio stations.
I'll bet it keys some kind of relay device in another box to pick
which station you want to listen to.  Kinda' silly, really.



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:47 1997
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From: "Tom M.Giblin Jr. / NY2S" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: DRSI PCPA2  Card
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 05:44:05 -0800
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HI, I'm looking for a DRSI PCPA2 Dual Port 1200-Baud VHF/VHF Card.
If you have one pls contact me if you want to part with it.
Tnks, Cheers !

73 de - Tom M Giblin Jr / NY2S

[e-mail]

http://www.netcom.com/~ny2s/tmg.html


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:48 1997
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: HAM TOOLKIT CD ROM..AWSOME!!!!
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:36:49 GMT
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Check out our Awsome CD ROM.."HAM TOOL KIT"..Its jam packed with over
600MEGS of Amateur Radio Related Software..its all here on one
disk..buy no other !!!.

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Why not send us an SMS to our GSM phone..Simply surf to
http://home.sn.no/~ahaltbak/engsms.htm  and type in the number
[phone], write your message and fill in your Email address.all for FREE !
!!



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:49 1997
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From: "Tom M.Giblin Jr. / NY2S" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: DRSI  PCPA2  Card Wanted
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 06:41:00 -0800
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HI, I'm looking for a DRSI PCPA2 1200-Baud VHF/VHF Card.
If you have one & like to part with it, pls notify me. Tnks, Cheers!

73 de -- Tom M Giblin Jr / NY2S

[e-mail]

http://www.netcom.com/~ny2s/tmg.html


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:27:59 1997
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From: Chuck Harrington <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for multi-mode TNC software
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 09:48:59 -0500
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To: Mike Tanner <[e-mail]>

Mike Tanner wrote:
>
> I have an MFJ-1278BT and my friend has a KAM PLUS multi-mode TNC's.
> We are looking for a software package that will operate on both tnc's
> for packet, amtor, pactor, RTTY, etc.  I tried Lan Link 232 but it
> really pissed off my 1278!  I couldn't use it.
>
> We are looking for a software package that will simplify the tasks of
> "turn overs", connecting, etc.  Since I don't get a chance to check
> this news group regularly, I'd appreciate any responces come to my
> e-mail address;  [e-mail]
>

Why not try Visual PacketPeT? You can get it from the sight below!

73 Chuck


--
Visual PacketPeT - Terminal Software For All hardware TNCs!
Visit WEB SIGHT  - http://www.gate.net/~paketpet
DOWNLOAD - ftp://ftp.gate.net/pub/users/paketpet/vpaket32.zip
EMAIL - [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:02 1997
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From: "Travis Roy" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Interferance from TNC -> Radio cable
Date: 29 Dec 1996 14:49:57 GMT
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I just got a new HT (FT-530) and I bought the MFJ TNC to Radio cable and
when the TNC is on (a KPC-2 v.5 ROM) I have no problems but the min. I hook
up the radio cable then all I get is static! If I bunch up the cable in my
hand then it goes away but that's not pratical for everyday use. Could
somebody please help me with this.

Thanks and 73s
Travis - N1UEV


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:03 1997
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
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Subject: The Worst Ham page
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:06:13 -0500
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Please visit my World Wide Web Site, you have never seen a page like it.
You will see:

1. A naked chic
2. The writings of me and others on ham radio.
3. The warm side of K1OIK.
4. A test for your SVGA monitor
5. A picture of me and my family.
6. A Nazi connection in ham radio???


Burt Fisher    Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics
Amateur call           South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)
  K1OIK        If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt

               [e-mail]    [e-mail]
               www.geocities.com/WallStreet/5169


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:04 1997
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From: Lloyd Blythen <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Packet in Africa?
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 17:02:30 +0000
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Can anyone please comment, or point me toward information, on amateur
packet access in Africa? I'm particularly interested in Sudan, Ethiopia,
the east-coast nations, and southern nations apart from South Africa. I
hope to be on the continent in 1998 and will need a packet connection
but I'm unlikely to be in an urban region, so satellite or HF systems
may make some sense. My transmit power may be limited. Any information
or tips on cross-licensing agreements between African countries and ZL
will also be of interest.

TIA

Lloyd


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:05 1997
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From: [e-mail] (RobertC)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Patcomm
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 17:03:49 GMT
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I have heard that a company called Patcomm has a radio that is a
transceiver and computer combined.  Can anyone point me to info on the
net regarding this system?
Thanks & 73
Robert WB4DHC



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:06 1997
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From: WOLTS <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Kansas City Packet---What happened?
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 11:33:07 -0600
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I've been off Packet for a number of years---mainly due to the
congestion.  Well, I moved a month ago and the only mode I now have,
until spring, is VHF and VHF packet.  Three years ago 145.01,.05,.09 was
full, now I hear only 3-4 stations after listening for hours.  What's
happened to packet while I was gone?
--
===========================================================
Mike Watson, WB0IKT
Clan Buchanan Society of America, Inc.
Kansas City Branch

http://www.sky.net/~crucis
"Meetings are like all fungi---there's always more growing
 in dark, damp corners."
===========================================================


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:07 1997
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From: "Arthur N. Borg" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Maybe YOU can help with MYSTERY box !!
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:00:36 -0800
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To: John Christian <[e-mail]>

I wonder how many answers you get. The device that you have is the remote cont
rol
unit for a Philco radio that was built in the 1940's. Starting in about 1939,
push
button radios were the latest novelty. Philco made one and only one radio whic
h
had a radio remote control that allowed you to change station from your chair.
 It
is the original channel surfer. I saw many references to these when I was firs
t
learning about radio at that time. However, it was a very expensive radio and
I
have only seen one actual radio. Of course, you had to put in batteries, (big,
expensive batteries). When you put your finger in the disk and then brought it

around to the hook, the hook moved a little. That was a switch which turned th
e
transmitter on so that it would transmit the proper number of pulses. As I
remember the transmitting tube was a '30 or 1G4. The receiver in the radio was

more complex that the radio that you listened to.

Hope this helps

Art Borg

John Christian wrote:
>
> We recently came back from an older family members house with a little
> mystery device.  No one knows what it is and we'd like to find out.
> Here's a description of what we found:
>
> It is a rather small wooden box with a laquered finish.  It is about
> 11" wide by 12" deep by 9" tall.  The top is not perfectly flat on top,
> instead it has a slight roll in it from back to front -presumeably
> asthetics. (It seems to be circa '50's)
>
> On the top is what looks sorta like a rotary telephone dial only slightly
> larger (and it's not a telephone dial).  There is a circle of finger
> depressions around the edge of the plastic disk.

snip

> ANY SUGGESTIONS OR IDEAS ???
>
> The only suggestion we've had so far is that it might be a TV channel
> direction finder.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help or ideas!!
>
> -John




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From: [e-mail] (Doug Wittich)
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Subject: Re: APRS On HP200lx
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[e-mail] (Michael Malloy) wrote:

>I am trying to use APRS on my HP200lx. I have got the program running but
>can only seem to display the usa.map. None of the local maps in my maps
>folder show up. In maplist folder I have maplist.usa and maplist.mid and
>a personal edited list. Any thing I am missing here?

My guess is that you erred by editing the list.  Start over with a
clean extract.   Then, when you edit, test before and after the
change.


doug


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From: "Brian E. Cauchi" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: FAX SSTV RTTY WEFAX with SoundBlaster: OK!
Date: 29 Dec 1996 18:53:57 GMT
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 Hello.
 I've just updated my FTV program, which does FAX & SSTV using a SoundCard,
 to decode Baudot using the same (FM) demodulation engine.

 Here is a run down of the more interesting features:

 (1) It keeps the demodulated signal in memory, so that the signal can be
 analysed again at a different keying rate or polarity! Garbage can be
 resampled on the fly, which means that minutes of received signals decoded
 at the wrong baud rate or keying polarity are recovered, on the fly, while
 still receiving.

 (2) Keying rate and polarity are analysed automatically - standard baud
 rates are automatically set following analysis.

 (3) Tuning oscilloscope available at all times, without loss of copy.

 (4) Program works in real time.

 (5) I wrote it, and I love it - I myself can't believe it works so well!

 Download your copy of FTV from my web site, at:
 http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2504

 System requirements, and the standard features of FTV are described in the
 following page:
 http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2504/ftv.htm

 By the way, AM signals from low orbiting weather satellites are also
 decoded - no extra interfaces needed. Demodulation mode is user selectable
 in software.

 Hope you all have a load of fun receiving 'words and pictures' - I hope to
 get some feedback !

 Happy New Year 1997
 All the best from Brian, 9H1JS, on the Island of Malta.



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From: [e-mail] (MScheer101)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Multi-reader
Date: 29 Dec 1996 21:37:03 GMT
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Hi,

Just got a  MFJ multi reader for RTTY, CW, etc, and having trouble
understaning and making the most of this shortwave add-on. Any help is
welcomed!

                                      Thanks,
                                       [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:11 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Graeme Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: help with baycom
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 22:31:28 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>In article <597hnj$3jl$[e-mail]>, david johnson
><[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>I have a Texas Instrument laptop running windows 3.11. Problem
>>with baycom is L2 is not running, that is I do not get the
>>flashing icon in the upper right hand of the screen as
>>mentioned in the text files. Radio is an ICOM ht, it transmits
>>and receives ok hooked to the baycom but will not connect. Can
>>anyone help with suggestions. My pk232 works fine on this radio
>>and computer. Thanks David VA3MRJ
>>
>>
>
>If you're running windows, don't expect a baycom modem to run properly.
>So far I've not heard of anyone successfully getting baycom modems to
>function properly if Windows 3.1, win95, os/2, Linux, or WINDOWS NT is

I've done it. Most software doesn't work properly, for the reasons
stated (and snipped to save time). However, G7JJF's WINTNC program
performs perfectly under Windows 3.x, 95 & NT 3.51. It's quite a nice
little program, and very easy to configure. It is available from G7JJF
@ GB7MAM.#23.GBR.EU or by emailing him at [e-mail]. It is
on the WWW somewhere, but I can't find the url right now. there is
also a nice little program called mdmtest (modem test) which, er,
tests the baycom modem for you. If you can't find it, let me know and
I'll stick it on my own web site for you.

>running as the software for the baycom requires the computer to constantly
>monitor a port for changes, and then translate it.  Be grateful you have
>the PK232, but if you're determined to have something to carry around, the
>TINY 2 from PACCOM, or the KPC-3 from kantronics are much better choices,
>and don't produce errors like trying to use a baycom modem with an
>operating system or two that demand most of the computer's attention.  In
>other words, unless you find a program written to work under windows using
>the baycom software, good luck.  I also remember one chap claiming that he
>had JNOS, the tcp/ip software running a baycom modem under win95, but he
>never explained how he got it to work, and I can't for the life of me
>remember his call.

My opinion is definitely the opposite - stick with the baycom. They
are versatile & cheap, and I could never see the point of spending
hundreds of pounds / dollars on a sophisticated TNC to connect to a
computer which is twenty times more powerful. Plus you've got one
already of course.

One thought - have you ascertained that the your Baycom works, by
testing it with another amateur perhaps? I built mine from a Badger
Boards kit, and there was a mistake in the design which meant that it
wouldn't work. It took me weeks to figure it out.

Regards

Graeme


>
>73 de n8blk/3   -art clemons-

PACKET:          GM1JZQ@GB7SAN
INTERNET:        [e-mail]
WORLD WIDE WEB:  www.emtel.demon.co.uk/home.html


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:12 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Graeme Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: help with baycom
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 22:31:29 GMT
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"A.C. SPRAGGINS" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hi David:
>     I have a pentium 133 with Win 95 and a 386-25 with Win 3.11.
>Neither will run the Baycom modem thru windows.  You have to run it from
>dos.  The problem with the pentium and Win 95 is that the pentium uses a
>16550 uart chip for the comm ports.  The Baycom won't work that fast
>according to the authors.  You need an 8250 uart (read slower clock) in
>order to use it.  The authors are aware of the problem and are working
>on it.  Someone may develop a "driver" for it soon.

I have had two Pentiums, both of which worked fine with the Baycom,
both with 16550 UARTs, so you are mistaken I am afraid. You may be
driving the modem too fast (ie trying to stuff the data into the
Baycom at 115K or something), or the software you are using may not
run properly under Windows (most, but not all, of it doesn't). See my
seperate reply in this thread to another post for info on this
subject.

Graeme


PACKET:          GM1JZQ@GB7SAN
INTERNET:        [e-mail]
WORLD WIDE WEB:  www.emtel.demon.co.uk/home.html


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:14 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Casey)
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Subject: Re: The Worst Ham page
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On Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:06:13 -0500, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Please visit my World Wide Web Site, you have never seen a page like it.
>You will see:
>
>1. A naked chic
>2. The writings of me and others on ham radio.
>3. The warm side of K1OIK.
>4. A test for your SVGA monitor
>5. A picture of me and my family.
>6. A Nazi connection in ham radio???
>
>
>Burt Fisher    Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics
>Amateur call           South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)
>  K1OIK        If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt
>
>               [e-mail]    [e-mail]
>               www.geocities.com/WallStreet/5169
Stop wasting bandspace with your sophmoric garbage. Grow up.


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:15 1997
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From: Raj Singh <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Pro & Cons on Cordless Telephone Headsets????
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 16:31:35 -0800
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Lorenzo & Katrina Baldwin wrote:
>
> Hello everyone....I hate to intrude but I'm doing some research on the
> cordless telephone headset.  Would you all please take a moment and reply
> with some pros and cons on cordless telephone headset?
>
> Thanks,
> L & K

 The biggest pro is you don't have to learn the code to operate it. The
cons is it range is very limited, seem to run FM only
Happy New Year
Raj


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:16 1997
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From: Ted Wolf Jr <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PSION & PAcket
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Has anyone set up a Psion plamtop for packet or aprs?


Ted Wolf Jr   kb2blx
[e-mail]


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Casey <[e-mail]> wrote in article <[e-mail]>...
> On Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:06:13 -0500, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
>
> >               [e-mail]    [e-mail]
> >               www.geocities.com/WallStreet/5169
> Stop wasting bandspace with your sophmoric garbage. Grow up.
>
        I liked his webpage. I found a lot of humor in it. And I found your
comments rude and un-called for.

With regards,
Chad



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:18 1997
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From: "Alan K. Adamson" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Need a recommendation!
Date: 30 Dec 1996 03:00:25 GMT
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All,

Just a simple one, I need some models of "good" aprstype radios for 2mtrs.
Something that is portable and small, any ideas?  How about HT's and makes
and models.

Thanks,
Alan Adamson
Atlanta, GA
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:19 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Gunshannon)
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Subject: Re: Kansas City Packet---What happened?
Date: 30 Dec 1996 03:00:33 GMT
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Same thing around here.  The big guns who ran the digi/nodes have all
given up apparently.  It was quite a surprise to find where I could once
connect all over the east coast (Does anyone remember KA9Q's VAX down
in New Jersey??) I could now connect to the K3RLI BBS and nothing else.
And with what the INTERNET offers today at 28800 or faster for $19.95,
I can't for the life of me figure out why the BBSes seem to be the part
that survived.

bill  KB3YV

--
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[e-mail]         |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton   |
Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:20 1997
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From: Gary O'Neil <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FS: DSP-12  Version 1.2 multi-mode communications controller (L.L. Grace)
Date: 30 Dec 1996 03:07:06 GMT
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The DSP-12 utilizes a DSP to implement the modem function and thus avoids
the absolesence of conventional modems. It is at its original software
version, and can be upgraded for free to the the most recent version by
returning the internal PROMS with an SASE in a static proof package
(aluminum foil wrap works for this) to L.L. Grace. You can also purchase
new PROMS for $30 if you wish to hold onto the old set.

The DSP-12 supports 3 physical ports (HF, VHF, and UHF) which are fully
multi-tasked in the software.

The modes currently supported are:

HF Packet - 300 bps AFSK 2125/2325 Hz tone pair
VHF Packet - 1200 bps AFSK 1200/2200 Hz tone pair
V26.B Packet - V26bis-compatible 2400 bps QPSK
BPSK Packet - 1200 bps BPSK modulated 1600 Hz carrier (terestrial)
PACSAT Packet - 1200 bps BPSK modulated 1600 Hz carrier (Oscar 20/16)
FO-20 Packet - Same as PACSAT with independent parameter setup.
UO-14 Packet - 9600 bps baseband
AO-13 Telemetry - Receive only mode for demodulation of OSCAR-13 BPSK
                  telemetry signals.
RTTY: Baudot, ASCII, plus 3 additional "Extra RTTY" modes.
WEFAX APT - WEFAX demodulator.
ACARS -  Aircraft Command and Reporting System (ACARS) demodulator.

Kiss, Transparent, Command, packet modes are all supported.

Power requirements: 8 - 15 VDC at 800 ma. (reverse voltage protected)

Serial I/O control - RS-232 or TTL (selectable by internal jumper)

The DSP-12 uses an Open Architecture, and a software developers toolkit
is available for $25 dollars and the signing of a confidential
non-disclosure agreement with L.L. Grace. This information is included in
the users manual.

The DSP-12, Users Manual, Serial I/O cable, and 3 port (DIN) connectors
all for $215 firm.

Reply via e-mail to Gary_O'[e-mail] or [e-mail]

73

Gary O'Neil, N3GO,  Raleigh, NC.




From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:21 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Casey)
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Subject: Re: The Worst Ham page
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On 30 Dec 1996 02:58:41 GMT, "Chad Sims" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>
>Casey <[e-mail]> wrote in article <[e-mail]>...
>> On Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:06:13 -0500, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >               [e-mail]    [e-mail]
>> >               www.geocities.com/WallStreet/5169
>> Stop wasting bandspace with your sophmoric garbage. Grow up.
>>
>       I liked his webpage. I found a lot of humor in it. And I found your
>comments rude and un-called for.
>
>With regards,
>Chad
>
Are you Burts Parrot? I bet you sit on his shoulder and go "awwk, your
right Burt"! Awwk, your right Burt!"


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On Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:06:13 -0500, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Please visit my World Wide Web Site, you have never seen a page like it.
>You will see:
>
>1. A naked chic
>2. The writings of me and others on ham radio.
>3. The warm side of K1OIK.
>4. A test for your SVGA monitor
>5. A picture of me and my family.
>6. A Nazi connection in ham radio???
>
>
>Burt Fisher    Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics
>Amateur call           South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)
>  K1OIK        If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt
>
>               [e-mail]    [e-mail]
>               www.geocities.com/WallStreet/5169
Hey Marc,
 Why don't you send me your real e-mail address you coward?


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From: The Bakers <[e-mail]>
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Casey wrote:
>
> On Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:06:13 -0500, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
> >Please visit my World Wide Web Site, you have never seen a page like it.
>
..snipped..

> Stop wasting bandspace with your sophmoric garbage. Grow up.


Hey Casey:

How are things at "Starfleet Command" ??
Sheeeeesh, talk about sophomoric !

Burt rules!

M. Baker WA3ZXO
[e-mail]


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From: Gary O'Neil <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PK-232 Milti-mode TNC
Date: 30 Dec 1996 04:17:51 GMT
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Software release 04.MAR.87

With Printer cable, 2 port cables, power supply, and manuals.

     $120.00

Reply via e-mail to [e-mail] or [e-mail]

73 de N3GO

Gary,   Raleigh, NC



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:25 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Kearns)
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Subject: TripMate & KPC-3 WORKING!!
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KANTRONICS KPC-3 AND TRIPMATE GPS INTERFACE
The following represents the efforts of WB6JAR and N6KZB, with
input from WK5M, to interface the Tripmate to the Kantronics
KPC-3. We found that it worked better than anticipated in
satellite acquisition and direction of travel. Despite the
help offered via the APRS SIG group, the following is the
only set up that worked with our units.

                   PIN OUT CONFIGURATION
  Tripmate                                                  KPC-3

pins 2&3 tied together--then both connect to--->      pin 2
pin 5   connects to--->                               pin 7
pin 4   connects to--->                               pin 6

                 MODIFICATIONS TO KPC-3

Install a 4.7 K resistor at position R-48 to make DSR active,
(see parts layout for location of R48). It is at the rear, on
the board, between the DB9 and DB25 connectors.

                       KPC-3 COMMANDS

Refer to KPC-3 manual and Command Summary sheets for GPS version
6.0 firmware.

Abaud 4800
INTface TERMINAL, (not NEWUSER mode)
MYcall to callsign-9, (or your desired ssid)
BText is set as needed
BLt 1 through 4 to desired beacon interval in seconds
GPShead 1 through 4, must be changed to $GPRMC
GPSInit needs not to be set, (since pins 2&3 on Tripmate are tied)
LT 1 through 4 gets filled with GPS info so leave blank
LTP 1 through 4 gets set to your local area agreed upon digi paths
LTRack left to factory default
PMode left to factory default
RPrint left to factory default

Final command is INT GPS, then turn TNC off and back on with
Tripmate connected. It will take about 2 minutes for first
satellite acquisition.
       12.29.96      [e-mail]     [e-mail]

Bill Kearns WB6JAR
[e-mail]
909-678-6228


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:26 1997
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From: Gary O'Neil <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS: PK-88 TNC
Date: 30 Dec 1996 04:22:40 GMT
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PK-88 with radio cable, power supply and manual.

            Software release  01.JUN.90

    $ 70.00

Reply via e-mail to  [e-mail]  or  [e-mail]

73 de N3GO

Gary,    Raleigh, NC




From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:27 1997
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Subject: FS: US Robotics Sportster 14.4 Data Fax External Modem
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Like new... Used less than 1 hour... Replaced entire PC shortly after
purchase.

     $50.00

Reply via e-mail to  [e-mail]    or    [e-mail]

73   de   N3GO

Gary,     Raleigh, NC




From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:28 1997
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Subject: Amateur Radio Files & Links (FREE)
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Come Visit The Western North Carolina APRS & Ham Radio Home Page. There are
lots of files to download
and links to all of the hotest ham and weather web sites on the net. And
best of all it's FREE!!

The Western NC Amateur Packet/Postion Reporting System & Ham Radio Home
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:29 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Blake Bowers)
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[e-mail] (Casey) wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:06:13 -0500, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
>wrote:

>>Please visit my World Wide Web Site, you have never seen a page like it.
>>You will see:
>>

>Stop wasting bandspace with your sophmoric garbage. Grow up.

I visited the page, and found it to be a very well made page,
interesting, and informative.

Not sure why you have such a problem, unless of course you had gotten
worked up into a frenzy of anticipation about seeing a naked chic!




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Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Please visit my World Wide Web Site, you have never seen a page like it.
>You will see:

Burt,

        I went there.  I saw it.  I liked it.


Good job.   And yes, I had figured out what the naked chic would be,
far in advance of clicking on the icon.

Have a great day.




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From: [e-mail] (Dexter N. Muir)
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Greetings, all, and a Happy New Year!

   Happiness is having all Digests for the month :-)
thanks to Martin, [e-mail]

73 de ZL3LH

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| Dexter N. Muir          Manufacturing Pilot Plant Technician             |
| [e-mail]   Department of Production Technology              |
|                         Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand |
| http://www.massey.ac.nz/~DNMuir/                                         |
| "Honesty pays --- but not enough."   "Modesty pays --- but even less!! " |
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:35 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Douglas Stockman)
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Greetings,

I just retuned from Ghana, West Africa where my wife and I lived for two
years in a rural village.  There was nothing around us so we stayed in touch
with the world by using the 9600 birds - particularly KO-23.  HF packet may
have been cheaper, but given the solar cycle, I worried about HF's
reliability.  Amateur operators in the U.S. transfered email from family for
us.  It worked out great.  BTW, we powered everything by a solar
(photovoltaic) system.  Let me know if you want more info.  Good luck.

Douglas Stockman
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:36 1997
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Casey wrote:

> Stop wasting bandspace with your sophmoric garbage. Grow up.

Contests and NTS traffic of course are fsr more worthy?

#================#===================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics   |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)              |
|    K1OIK       |     http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/5169      |
#================#===================================================#
|This message was posted from home            [e-mail]       |
#====================================================================#
If you try to milk too much, you won't get a drop
Samantha Fisher


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:38 1997
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Chad Sims wrote:

>         I liked his webpage. I found a lot of humor in it. And I found your
comments rude and un-called for.

Thank you for your comments.
It is meant to be entertaining, you do not have to agree with my views.

#================#===================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics   |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)              |
|    K1OIK       |     http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/5169      |
#================#===================================================#
|This message was posted from home            [e-mail]       |
#====================================================================#
If you try to milk too much, you won't get a drop
Samantha Fisher


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:39 1997
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Casey wrote:

> Are you Burts Parrot? I bet you sit on his shoulder and go "awwk, your
> right Burt"! Awwk, your right Burt!"

If you are into parrots have you listened to contests?

CQ CONTEST, CQ CONTEST, CQ CONTEST, CQ CONTEST, CQ CONTEST, CQ CONTEST,
CQ CONTEST, CQ CONTEST, CQ CONTEST, CQ CONTEST, CQ CONTEST, CQ CONTEST,
CQ CONTEST, CQ CONTEST, CQ CONTEST, CQ CONTEST, CQ CONTEST, CQ CONTEST.
59, please repeat all hi hi,  59, please repeat all hi hi,
59, please repeat all hi hi,  59, please repeat all hi hi,
59, please repeat all hi hi,  59, please repeat all hi hi,


#================#===================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics   |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)              |
|    K1OIK       |     http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/5169      |
#================#===================================================#
|This message was posted from home            [e-mail]       |
#====================================================================#
If you try to milk too much, you won't get a drop
Samantha Fisher


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:40 1997
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Blake Bowers wrote:
>
> I visited the page, and found it to be a very well made page,
> interesting, and informative.

Interesting is my goal, thanks for your comments.

> Not sure why you have such a problem, unless of course you had gotten
> worked up into a frenzy of anticipation about seeing a naked chic!

Not only is the chic naked but the human is the picture has no cloth
you can see on her body, right?

#================#===================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics   |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)              |
|    K1OIK       |     http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/5169      |
#================#===================================================#
|This message was posted from home            [e-mail]       |
#====================================================================#
If you try to milk too much, you won't get a drop
Samantha Fisher


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:42 1997
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Blake Bowers wrote:
>
>
>         I went there.  I saw it.  I liked it.
>
> Good job.   And yes, I had figured out what the naked chic would be,
> far in advance of clicking on the icon.

Thank you for having a sense of humor.

#================#===================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics   |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)              |
|    K1OIK       |     http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/5169      |
#================#===================================================#
|This message was posted from home            [e-mail]       |
#====================================================================#
If you try to milk too much, you won't get a drop
Samantha Fisher


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:43 1997
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From: Mike Watson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Kansas City Packet---What happened?
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:02:15 -0600
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Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>
> Same thing around here.  The big guns who ran the digi/nodes have all
> given up apparently.  It was quite a surprise to find where I could once
> connect all over the east coast (Does anyone remember KA9Q's VAX down
> in New Jersey??) I could now connect to the K3RLI BBS and nothing else.
> And with what the INTERNET offers today at 28800 or faster for $19.95,
> I can't for the life of me figure out why the BBSes seem to be the part
> that survived.
>

At least you still have bulletin boards!  I checked a few via some
"TheNET" nodes and found zero bulletins, messages---not even "for sale"
notes.

> bill  KB3YV
>
> --
> Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
> [e-mail]         |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
> University of Scranton   |
> Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>

--
=====================================================================
Mike Watson, WB0IKT
Raymore, Missouri, USA

 "Meetings are like fungi---there are more growing in dark, damp
  corners."
=====================================================================


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:44 1997
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From: Kory Hamzeh <[e-mail]>
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Subject: DSP base TNC recomendation
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Hi,

I've been using a PK-232 for a while now and I would like to upgrade to a
newer DSP based TNC. I'm mostly interested in HF weak signal work. I good
CW recovery is important. I was wondering what people here would
recommend. I like the spec of the SCS PT-II, but it is very expensive.
Too bad AEA is screwed up because the DSP-232 looks good.

Thanks,
Kory
AC6RN



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:45 1997
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From: Bob Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: DSP base TNC recomendation
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:29:35 -0500
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Kory Hamzeh wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been using a PK-232 for a while now and I would like to upgrade to a
> newer DSP based TNC. I'm mostly interested in HF weak signal work. I good
> CW recovery is important. I was wondering what people here would
> recommend. I like the spec of the SCS PT-II, but it is very expensive.
> Too bad AEA is screwed up because the DSP-232 looks good.
>
> Thanks,
> Kory
> AC6RN

When you compare the SCS PTC-II to less expensive units, take a close
look at the hardware you are getting (processor and DSP chip
power/speed). I don't believe the DSP-232 has near the capability of the
PTC-II (even if AEA was still in business).



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:46 1997
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From: "Phil M." <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: DSP base TNC recomendation
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Kory Hamzeh wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been using a PK-232 for a while now and I would like to upgrade to a
> newer DSP based TNC. I'm mostly interested in HF weak signal work. I good
> CW recovery is important. I was wondering what people here would
> recommend. I like the spec of the SCS PT-II, but it is very expensive.
> Too bad AEA is screwed up because the DSP-232 looks good.
>
> Thanks,
> Kory
> AC6RN

How about the TAPR/AMSAT DSP93 kit?  Looks like it's a neat system.
Check it out on the TAPR home page at
http://www.tapr.org

73,
Phil


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From: Steve Stroh <[e-mail]>
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On Sun, 29 Dec 1996, Lloyd Blythen wrote:

> Can anyone please comment, or point me toward information, on amateur
> packet access in Africa? I'm particularly interested in Sudan, Ethiopia,
> the east-coast nations, and southern nations apart from South Africa. I
> hope to be on the continent in 1998 and will need a packet connection
> but I'm unlikely to be in an urban region, so satellite or HF systems
> may make some sense. My transmit power may be limited. Any information
> or tips on cross-licensing agreements between African countries and ZL
> will also be of interest.

Your best bet would probably be to access a number of the "flying mailbox"
PacSats that fly over each point on the globe twice a day.  It's
sufficient to relay BBS messages back and forth.  You'll probably find
some useful info at http://www.amsat.org.

Steve N8GNJ

--
Steve Stroh  Woodinville, Washington, USA  [e-mail]



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On Mon, 30 Dec 1996 03:36:11 GMT, [e-mail] (Casey) wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:06:13 -0500, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
>wrote:
>
>>Please visit my World Wide Web Site, you have never seen a page like it.
>>You will see:
>>
>>1. A naked chic
>>2. The writings of me and others on ham radio.
>>3. The warm side of K1OIK.
>>4. A test for your SVGA monitor
>>5. A picture of me and my family.
>>6. A Nazi connection in ham radio???
>>
>>
>>Burt Fisher    Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics
>>Amateur call           South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)
>>  K1OIK        If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt
>>
>>               [e-mail]    [e-mail]
>>               www.geocities.com/WallStreet/5169
>Hey Marc,
> Why don't you send me your real e-mail address you coward?


'smatter bunky, upset because you lack creativity to make your own web
page?


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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:51 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Schneider)
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On Mon, 30 Dec 1996 10:55:13 -0500, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Blake Bowers wrote:
>>
>>
>>         I went there.  I saw it.  I liked it.
>>
>> Good job.   And yes, I had figured out what the naked chic would be,
>> far in advance of clicking on the icon.
>
>Thank you for having a sense of humor.
>
**snip**

Yeah, I had an idea about the chick, too. That's a little scary. Great
page, keep modifying it!!


Mark SCHNEIDER -- Trying to figure out what to do with all these
German traits.....hmmmmm, maybe if we just march this group of
neo-nazis and Skinheads into this little sealable room over here,
close the door, climb this ladder over here, and dump these pellets
down this pipe.........


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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:51 1997
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: AEA RTTY Software for CP-1/CP-100
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 03:51:02 GMT
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Looking for CP-1/CP-100 RTTY software by AEA for IBM/compatible

73..de John/K8PXG
John/K8PXG in Pembroke Pines, FL


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:52 1997
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From: Jeff DeLong <[e-mail]>
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Subject: ham desktop theme
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I have not seen a desktop theme for windows05 so I made my own.
Feel free to get a copy at my home page.
http://www.greenapple.com/~kb8pwc

73 and happy new year to all!
--
Jeff DeLong
http://kb8pwc.ampr.org.........http://www.greenapple.com/~kb8pwc

packet-kb8pwc@k8qik.#seoh.oh.usa.noam
[e-mail]
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:53 1997
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From: Glenn Yarbrough <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: tnc reccomendations?
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I am getting ready to buy a TNC, and want to do as much as possible on a
budget. The only gear I have now is an HTX 202, so 2meter is the only
packet I'll be able to do...for now. I don't know much about the Rose or
Jnos stuff, as I have been out of the loop for awhile. Any help is
appreciated. I am also hoping to find a TNC that comes with the needed
connector for my rig, if that animal exists.
Thanx.


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:54 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking for N6NKO, WA6LLM and KZ6S
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 00:19:39 pdt
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Well, a few of my my christmas cards have been returned by the post
office, a few people have moved, and I'd like to ask if anybody knows
where I can find these fine folk.  I've checked the various on-line callbooks
and they all have the old addresses.

Richard N6NKO
Larry ex-WA6LLM - last I knew he was working for an oil company
in Saudi Arabia,
Greg, KZ6S.




From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:55 1997
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From: Megan Quattrocchi <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 1 DSP transceiver
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 02:34:43 -0800
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You know, I was wondering.  With the latest DSP chips, would it be
possible to build a transceiver with a single DSP chip with the D/A
outputs and A/D inputs hooked directly to the antenna -- and a lowpass
filter to prevent any signals higher than your sampling rate from coming
in or going out?  You'd hook another D/A output to a speaker and a A/D
input to the microphone.  Are these guys getting fast enough to do this?

Am I missing something about how these chips work?  How hard would the
programming be, and how high in frequency could you receive/transmit
with such a gadget?


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:56 1997
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From: [e-mail] (David Woolley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet in Africa?
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 11:40:57 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,

>reliability.  Amateur operators in the U.S. transfered email from family for
>us.

Unfortunately, that's not legal on the UK licence.
--
David Woolley, London, England          [e-mail]
(Sending any email to this site constitutes a licence to copy it to any
company which might reasonably be assumed to have transported it or
might reasonably be assumed to service any addresses quoted in it. 15Sep1996)



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:57 1997
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From: [e-mail] (JS)
Subject: Macintosh Computers & Ham Radio
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
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There is an informal group of amateur radio operators that use Macintosh
computers called "Macnet" with approximately 800 members world-wide.

We stay in touch with each other via packet & Internet and we have a HyperCard
stack that tells the story of each of us called "Macnet Roster" that list

                          o CALL SIGN @ HOME PBBS
                          o FULL NAME
                          o Street ADDRESS
                          o CITY, STATE, ZIP
                          o INTERNET ADDRESS
                          o MACS USED
                          o RADIOS USED
                          o SOFTWARE USED
                          o PASSIONS
                          o COMMENTS

Macnet members can then communicate with one another directly or use our
Macnet Moderated Mailing List to pose comments or questions to all of us
on the Net.

To join Macnet, put YOUR INFO (via EMAIL or via disk using TEACH TEXT on
a formatted disk in a self addressed and stamped disk mailer that is in a
large envelope clearly marked "ROSTER").

Or connect to our home page via the WWW   http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v

-------<sent to all new Macnet Subscribers & Macnet Roster Updates>---------

                           Welcome to Macnet!

The latest Macnet Roster is here as a compressed "attached" file if you are
just joining Macnet or if you have just sent in an update to your stats.

Each Macnet Roster entry is in Zip Code order for USA and alphabetical order
by country name for DX. You can download later versions from my home page
whenever the mood strikes you.

Starting on January 1, 1997, we offer a Macnet Moderated Mailing List.
To send a message to all Macnet members on the Internet, send your message to

[e-mail]

with "Macnet Dist." on the subject line along with your actual subject title.

Your email address will appear in the message so if you are posing a question
to our group, anyone might respond directly to you or answers can be sent to
me and then shared with all of us.

To be removed from the mailing list, type "Remove" on the subject title.
Only Macnet Roster entries may subscribe.

A trip to my home page reveals there are many good files and programs for
amateur radio operators that want to use Mac computers. More details are
in January 1997 QST, page 100. http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v/
but some of our features include:

* Ham Radio Test Simulators - where you can go from Novice to Extra Class
practicing the actual tests right on your Mac! Check out the info on the
new NO CODE license or scramble your neurons and learn Morse on the Mac
too!

* Macnet Roster - a virtual "Who's Who" HyperCard stack with more than 800
entries giving the names, addresses, phone numbers, of radio operators
all over the world that are using Macs. Check out their projects and
their passions and put a design on your Mac Radio future when you see
what neat things are being done!

* Mac Ham Radio Software Listing - as the name implies, its "The List" of
the latest - much of it with FTP links so what you see is what you can
get with just a click.

* Ham Radio.FAQ - compiled on a Mac with a lot of links to great Mac FTP
sites for radio, electronic engineering, and similar data.

73,


                John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| [e-mail]
            144 Pepperidge Dr |_|   |_| page [e-mail]
    Manchester, NH 03103-6150 |_|_ _|_| [e-mail]
      voice mail 603.533.3472 | | | | | fax [phone]

            Digital Scope.FAQ + Amateur Radio.FAQ + Macnet

                   http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:58 1997
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From: Luc Bos <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: help with baycom
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:05:45 +0100
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Graeme Brown wrote:

> I have had two Pentiums, both of which worked fine with the Baycom,
> both with 16550 UARTs, so you are mistaken I am afraid. You may be
> driving the modem too fast (ie trying to stuff the data into the
> Baycom at 115K or something), or the software you are using may not
> run properly under Windows (most, but not all, of it doesn't). See my
> seperate reply in this thread to another post for info on this
> subject.

We tried this on 3 or 4 different pentium boards, only one was working
correctly. Installing a multi-iocard with a 16550 chip was a good
solution. Problem seems to be that not al the functions of the 16550 are
implemented in silicium on the integrated chips on the new motherboards.

On a faulty motherboard everything seems to work but you won't receive
anything and you can't send right either.

Groeten Luc




From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:28:59 1997
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From: Daniel Velez <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Patcomm
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 08:19:32 -0500
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RobertC wrote:
>
> I have heard that a company called Patcomm has a radio that is a
> transceiver and computer combined.  Can anyone point me to info on the
> net regarding this system?
> Thanks & 73
> Robert WB4DHC

Perhaps you're looking for PacComm?  Try: http://www.paccomm.com/


--
Dan

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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:29:00 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Mentuck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: APRS On HP200lx
Date: 31 Dec 1996 13:46:25 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]

says...
>
>[e-mail] (Michael Malloy) wrote:
>
>>I am trying to use APRS on my HP200lx. I have got the program running but
>>can only seem to display the usa.map. None of the local maps in my maps
>>folder show up. In maplist folder I have maplist.usa and maplist.mid and
>>a personal edited list. Any thing I am missing here?
>
>My guess is that you erred by editing the list.  Start over with a
>clean extract.   Then, when you edit, test before and after the
>change.
>
>
>doug


I've done it with one of the older APRS versions on a 100LX. I'm not sure what

the system requirements of the newer versions are; you might try a radio
related newsgroup.

I think I had the USA map and one local map installed, as I don't have any
additional memory.  It did work, but was slow on the re-draw.  I occasionally
use the 100 LX for conventional packet use, and the portability factor far
exceeds the minor drawbacks of the small keyboard and screen.

Good luck de Mike Mentuck, N1PQG



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From: "Dave (Reply address in.sig" <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]>
   Megan Quattrocchi <[e-mail]> writes:
> You know, I was wondering.  With the latest DSP chips, would it be
> possible to build a transceiver with a single DSP chip with the D/A
> outputs and A/D inputs hooked directly to the antenna -- and a lowpass
> filter to prevent any signals higher than your sampling rate from coming
> in or going out?  You'd hook another D/A output to a speaker and a A/D
> input to the microphone.  Are these guys getting fast enough to do this?
>
> Am I missing something about how these chips work?  How hard would the
> programming be, and how high in frequency could you receive/transmit
> with such a gadget?

If there was only one signal on the band then you might get away with
it, given that there are ways of handling HF. However, your dynamic
range would be very small and adjacent strong signals would wipe out
wanted weak signals.

You can't have speed *and* bits (6db/bit on the dynamic range) at the
moment.

Dave
--
dave@ llondel.demon.co.uk
Any advice above is worth what I paid for it.



From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:29:03 1997
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From: Mike Watson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: DSP base TNC recomendation
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 09:44:49 -0600
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Yeah, AEA has closed their doors.  The new MFJ-1278B w/DSP looks good.
Course, I'm bias. I use a MFJ-1278 (real old model) and I'm well
satisfied.
--
=====================================================================
Mike Watson, WB0IKT
Raymore, Missouri, USA
http://www.sky.net/~crucis

 "Meetings are like fungi---there are more growing in dark, damp
  corners."
=====================================================================


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:29:05 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: soundcard radio modem for us
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:
>>Well, here's my cut at it. There are two approaches being used
>>with sound cards. One uses sound cards with on-board DSP, like
>>the Cardinal cards with the Analog Devices chipset. With these,
>>you can download a modem program to the DSP and let it run, then
>>process the data with the PC's processor. By dividing the work
>>this way, you can have a complex modem and not tax the PC. The
>>downside is that sound cards with programable DSP are rare, and
>>more expensive.
>>
>>The other approach uses an ordinary sound card merely for its
>>A/D and D/A capabilities and does all signal processing on the
>>main microprocessor in the PC. This limits you to very simple
>>modems unless the PC has a lot of horsepower. But PCs are gaining
>>more horsepower every day, and a 200 MHz Pentium Pro is equivalent
>>to a mid-level dedicated DSP processor. When the new PCs with
>>microprocessors with MMX extensions hit the market in force,
>>DSP on the main PC will become much better. I expect that
>>eventually this will be the way all but the most advanced
>>modems will be implemented.
>
>That's the MAIN TARGET.
>
>All you need is a programmer to get is hands dirty.
>(BTW I am C/C++ Intermediate/beginner Level Programmer :-)
>My problem is I cann't say the same to HAM, digital signals,
>and DSP :( )

Well, it does take a bit of study to understand the construction
of signals, the various modulation forms, and the methods to
optimally decode them. But as amateurs, that's what we do.
Modulating and demodulating radio signals is what we are about,
and we should strive for an understanding of those things.
It doesn't take a graduate engineer to understand these things,
but it does take a grasp of mathematics beyond simple algebra.
I've spent more time recently reviewing the math needed to
describe the modulated signal than I have studying how to
program DSP. The latter is actually a pretty simple and
mechancial process.

>>I think this will be a good thing for the digital community
>>in a couple of ways. First, we won't need a bunch of separate
>>hardware boxes to do various digital methods. We'll just load
>>a different program on the PC. And second, every ham will have
>>a DSP development platform, his PC, and won't need all kinds
>>of hardware development tools to do DSP development. This could
>>lead to an explosion of new methods and new programs being
>>developed. Out of that may come things better than we know
>>how to do now with our hardware boxes.
>
>Agree, the biggest problem I think there is in decode digital
>signals is on the receiver/transreceivers because they have
>a interface for control the receiver/transreceiver BUT, normally
>thosen't have OTHER interface for receive the Digital Signals and
>decode them, If WE have this, thing go much easyer, and the
>horsepower of the PC (also the software) will do all.
>
>Why do not HAM's/scanners begin to request to receiver/transreceivers
>manufactors to include a dsp processor and other interface for RX/TX
>of digital signals? It's not a bad idea(I think)?

I expect we'll start seeing some of that. The manufacturers are starting
to include DSPs as more than just audio filters in the newer radios.
But for a lot of the stuff we do, the audio line out is all we need.
We feed that to the sound card and demodulate in the PC. Of course
that pretty much limits us to narrowband modulations, but that's all
the regulations let us use on HF now anyway.

If the DSP is embedded in the radio, it will be harder for us to
write code for it to try new ideas than if we're doing the DSP on
our PC. Likely we'd need an ICE, and the radio would have to be
designed to let us at the DSP. So I see that trend as something of
a mixed blessing.

I've been experimenting with a homebrew I/Q receiver, however, and
that does let you do things which are hard, or impossible, to do
with just a mono sound output to a PC. One could take the I and
Q outputs of the receiver and hook them to the stereo L and R
inputs of the sound card and do quadrature processing on the PC,
but I chose to use a DSP in the receiver itself for my experiments.
I'm using the Analog Devices EZKit DSP as the post mixer section
of the receiver (which is basically a Rick Campbell R2). That lets
me do a number of things that the orginal design's opamps couldn't
do.

>>For now, however, we still need a hardware assist for complex
>>modems, like PACTOR II uses, and we still need high speed
>>digital interfaces, like the PI-2 card, for things like the
>>56 kb RF modem. No sound card can handle 56 kb yet, and
>>likely won't be able to in the future either because the
>>top sound card sampling rate is 44 kHz (like a CD), and
>>that's limited by Nyquist to handling signals no faster
>>than 22 kHz. There's no reason to offer a *sound* card
>>which can handle anything faster than that. (Multimedia
>>*video* accelerator cards might be pressed into service
>>for higher speed data, but they're pretty specialized and
>>might not have the required flexibility. I'm keeping an
>>open mind on that.)
>
>I have to agree it's very limit, I just hope my previous
>idea will help.
>
>BTW take a look at this
>
>URL http://www.winradio.net.au
>
>It's fantastic ... this is a PC card that received radio signals
>from 500khz to 1.3Ghz, with software to control the card, and there
>is also a api spec if you want to make your own software to control
>the card.

I saw this, or something very like it, at Dayton last year. It is
a neat idea, but frankly I wasn't too impressed with the implementation.
It's basically just a conventional triple conversion scanner with
computer control. It doesn't make any provisions for quadrature
processing, and its tuning steps are too coarse for HF digital.
(And from my POV, the fact that it is tied fairly intimately to
Windows is a serious drawback, though that can be remedied with
a fair bit of driver work so that it would be usable on platforms
supporting real programmer friendly operating systems like Linux.)

>If a card like this ALSO have a DSP processor built-in or other
>PC card with a DSP processor with a connection for a audio cable from
>the record line out of a receiver or transreceiver ... well, I think
>that you get the picture.

The PSA chipset on the Cardinal sound cards already gives you that.
And I have a Tecmar sound card, marketed under IBM's label, which
has a TMS320C10 on board. Unfortunately, such cards are rare because
the sound card market is heading in a different direction. Of course
there is the HAL P-38 card, with a more powerful TMS320 chipset, which
can be used for DSP of HF signals. It is setup for downloading of
DSP code from the PC disk, so you can program your own modems on
it. There isn't a lot of documentation telling you how to do that,
though, and it is much more expensive than the typical sound card.

I think what we need is a basic RF front end and quadrature mixer
setup (like the R2) with computer control (perhaps a DDS LO) that
feeds I and Q to our PCs. We can then choose to either use a DSP
sound card, or just an ordinary sound card with the PC doing the
DSP, for signal processing and demodulation. That'll let us handle
arbitrary modulations in software.

There may be an advantage to including the A/D conversion step
in the radio, and feeding I and Q to the PC already digitized,
but I don't know if any sound cards for the PC support receiving
their signals that way. This might be a place for a varient of
the Winradio idea to shine. It could make the A/D converted I
and Q available on the PC's ISA bus for immediate manipulation
by software running on the PC. This could be pretty cheap too
since it is less hardware intensive than the Winradio.

I didn't choose to go this way with my experimental setup since
I didn't want the problems of shielding a sensitive receiver
in the noisy internals of the PC.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:29:06 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Doug Wittich)
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Glenn Yarbrough <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I am getting ready to buy a TNC, and want to do as much as possible on a
>budget. The only gear I have now is an HTX 202, so 2meter is the only
>packet I'll be able to do...for now. I don't know much about the Rose or
>Jnos stuff, as I have been out of the loop for awhile. Any help is
>appreciated. I am also hoping to find a TNC that comes with the needed
>connector for my rig, if that animal exists.

I have the KPC3, which can be had for about $120 mail order or in a
local dealer.    And MFJ sells a cable that is ready to plug in to the
HTX202.  It's about $15.


Doug


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:29:07 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Open-squelch mod for PK88?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> cathryn@jung
levision.junglevision.com (cathryn) writes:
>>The TAPR DCD State Machine kit can be fitted to the PK88.
>
>I have a PK-232, and, err, I don't know if I understand what exactly
>the DCD mod does.  Would this help me on HF?

What the DCD mod does is allow you to run open squelch on the radio.
It does this by deriving DCD from the state machine of the PAD rather
than depending on a noise squelch. This eliminates a lot of DCD falsing
on noise, and allows a shorter Txd since the delay opening the squelch
before the modem can get to work is eliminated. This squelch opening
delay can be a large percentage of the total response time of the
radio. The primary benefit you'll see on HF is a reduction in falsing
from noise bursts on the channel.

>I'm considering moving up to some kind of DSP box for higher speed
>modes.  I just have to find someone to talk to in the SF Bay Area. (Berkeley)
>Is there any way to get Pactor 2 with a decent modem for less than $500?

No. Right now, the only PACTOR II system is the PTC-II at $995. There
are other non-DSP units which do a better job on PACTOR I than the PK-232
(about twice as well according to recently published tests), and there is
Clover with the HAL P-38 card for under $400. Clover performance doesn't
match that of PACTOR II, but it is well ahead of most other things. It
does offer quasi-duplex operation which is useful for some applications,
such as TCP/IP over radio via a pseudo-ppp linkage. And the P-38 is less
than half the cost of the PTC-II, which should have a significant impact
on the number of stations using it.

Also see the other thread where I talk about using PC sound cards as
DSP modems. This is an exciting direction, and one where you can
participate more initmately than just burning the plastic and plugging
together cables.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:29:10 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Kansas City Packet---What happened?
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In article <[e-mail]> WOLTS <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>I've been off Packet for a number of years---mainly due to the
>congestion.  Well, I moved a month ago and the only mode I now have,
>until spring, is VHF and VHF packet.  Three years ago 145.01,.05,.09 was
>full, now I hear only 3-4 stations after listening for hours.  What's
>happened to packet while I was gone?

A couple of things happened, Mike. Low cost internet access has sapped
a lot of casual user activity from 1200 baud packet. It is horse and
buggy compared to the net at 28.8 kbs. Those who've stayed on the radio
have moved on to faster systems, 9600 baud, 19.2 kb, or 56 kb, or have
gone off to other applications beyond crude BBS systems and slow keyboard
chatting. For example, there is APRS, which uses a different frequency.
Try listening on 145.79 MHz for a while for APRS activity. Most of the
faster activity is on 70cm in most areas. You'll have to ask the active
locals exactly what and where these other things are happening in your
area.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:29:10 1997
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From: Ron Stordahl <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: tnc reccomendations?
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Glenn

I have quite a few MFJ1270C's and am well satisfied with their
performance. However, the manual is poorly written, it fails to address
some of the most obvious questions.  Unfortunately there are few good
technical writers doing manuals for amateur radio products.

Ron N5IN


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:29:11 1997
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From: Martin Soprano <[e-mail]>
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Subject: 59+ to FT-900 Connections
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Hello. Need help in connecting a DSP59+ to my FT-900.
Read the instructions but lost something in the translation.
Still have lots of noise.  Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Marty/NM4S


From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:29:13 1997
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 1 DSP transceiver
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
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>
>You know, I was wondering.  With the latest DSP chips, would it be
>possible to build a transceiver with a single DSP chip with the D/A
>outputs and A/D inputs hooked directly to the antenna -- and a lowpass
>filter to prevent any signals higher than your sampling rate from coming
>in or going out?  You'd hook another D/A output to a speaker and a A/D
>input to the microphone.  Are these guys getting fast enough to do this?
>
>Am I missing something about how these chips work?  How hard would the
>programming be, and how high in frequency could you receive/transmit
>with such a gadget?

Primarily what you are missing is cost. Very high speed CODECs (the
A/D and D/A component of the system) either have a very low number
of bits of resolution (that translates directly to dynamic range),
or are extraordinarily expensive.

Nyquist limits force us to sample a frequency F at a rate no less
than 2*F (and in practice we like to sample at a higher multiple
than that because it eases the brick wall filter requirement to
prevent aliasing). So to handle a signal at 30 MHz, we have to
sample at 60 MHz or higher. Reasonably priced CODECs sample at
100 kHz or less. The coming of digital video is driving the price
of faster CODECs downward, however, and a 8-bit CODEC capable of
200 MHz operation is beginning to become affordable.

The number of bits per sample also drives costs (and speed). The
more bits per sample we want, the more the CODEC costs, and the
slower it runs. As I noted, the number of bits per sample
directly translates to the dynamic range over which the CODEC
can operate. An 8-bit CODEC has 256 discrete steps, and that is
a voltage dynamic range of 48 db. The dynamic range we need from
a HF receiver spans a signal range from -140 dbm to +10 dbm, or
a range of about 150 db. An 8-bit CODEC obviously won't do. The
next step up, a 16-bit CODEC, has a dynamic range of 96 db. That's
getting better, but what we'd really like to have is a 24-bit CODEC.
That gives us a dynamic range of 144 db, and that's competitive
with the best analog receivers.

The problem is, we don't have any 24-bit CODECs, 16-bit CODECs
are mostly limited to audio rate sampling (at least the affordable
ones are), and the only CODECs that are fast enough are video CODECs
which only have 8-bit samples. Thus we have to have an analog AGC
system in front of the CODEC to cope with HF dynamic range. That
causes lots of problems, and of course requires more complexity
between the antenna and the digital conversion step.

Now once the signal is in digital form, we want to process it, IE
filter it and demodulate it. To do that, we have to perform math
on the data stream. For example, to implement a reasonable FIR
bandpass filter, we may need to perform 100 multiply/accumulate
operations during each sample interval. If we are sampling at
60 MHz, that's 100 mul/acc operations per 17 nanoseconds. Even
if we use an efficient DSP chip which can perform a multiply/
accumulate operation in one T cycle, we need a T cycle time of
0.17 nanosecond, or a clock rate of 58.8 GHz for the processor.
Affordable DSP processors have a clock rate of 40 MHz. And we've
just implemented a bandpass filter, we haven't yet demodulated
the signal. That may take a few hundred more T cycles per sample.

So both CODECs and DSP processors are about 3 orders of magnitude
too slow to use directly on the signals presented at the antenna
input of a HF receiver, and the dynamic range we can achieve is
also several orders of magnitude too low.

Now there are other ways than a direct brute force approach.
We can make aliasing work for us by sampling way below the
Nyquist limit for the RF carrier (but still above the limit
for the *modulation*). This will effectively recover the
envelope of an amplitude modulated signal, IE AM, SSB, CW,
etc. To do this, we need a sample and hold circuit in front
of the A/D which will grab an integrated value of the signal
during a sample period and present it to the A/D for conversion.
This allows us to use an audio rate 16-bit CODEC, and allows
us to use a DSP chip with a reasonable clock rate.

That's almost good enough except for one very serious flaw.
With this technique, the only channel filtering we get is
from the preselector filtering in the antenna input circuit.
That will never do on today's crowded bands. (We can do some
filtering on the recovered baseband signal, but we can't
achieve single signal reception with this technique.)

There *is* a technique which will allow us to achieve single
signal reception, however. The is the I/Q (or quadrature)
receiver. This does require some analog circuitry in the
front end of the radio (two balanced mixers and a LO), but
we can sample I and Q at an audio rate and process them with
a DSP of achieveable clock rate. (Amateurs may recognize
the I/Q method as the phasing method of SSB generation
and reception. It works on more than SSB, however. It can
synthesize or demodulate any arbitrary signal. Thus it is
a very powerful technique.)

I've been experimenting with such an I/Q receiver, made from
the front end of a Rick Campbell R2 and an Analog Devices EZKit
DSP board. It works. Because the CODEC on the EZKit board is only
16-bits, dynamic range is less than the better analog receivers,
so I have to use a step attenuator in front of the receiver for
manual gain control. This is less than optimum, but it has proven
workable for an experimental setup.

I can do a SSB receiver by performing a Hilbert transform (a 90
degree phase shift in the digital domain) on one of I or Q and
combining the resulting data streams. If I do the transform in
one channel, I get LSB, if I do it in the other channel instead,
I get USB. I can also do filtering of the channels to achieve a
desired bandpass response. I can also demodulate FSK and PSK
signals by using different algorithms. I can even do synchronous
AM detection. Any arbitrary amplitude, phase, or frequency modulation
can be recovered with this technique.

And conversely, I can generate any arbitrary modulation by
supplying suitably processed I and Q signals to a pair of
balanced mixers and a LO arranged as a phasing modulator,
IE the R2 in reverse. This turns out to be easier. I use
the L and R stereo outputs of a PC sound card to deliver
I and Q to the mixers. By playing a suitably processed
stereo WAV file through the sound card, I can synthesize
any M-ary coding scheme on the RF channel.

In the experimental setup, I precompute this WAV file, but
in a practical system it would be generated on the fly by
the input data (a lookup table approach is probably the least
computationally intensive way to do this).

This setup is very cheap, and requires few parts. It is a good
platform for anyone wanting to experiment with signal design
and digital signal processing.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Thu Jan 02 17:29:15 1997
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From: [e-mail] (RobertC)
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Subject: Re: Patcomm
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Thanks for the lead... Went by HRO today and they had heard of it.
Seems that it is some type of radio card that goes in a PC.  Is
definately Patcomm.
Robert
Daniel Velez <[e-mail]> wrote:

>RobertC wrote:
>>
>> I have heard that a company called Patcomm has a radio that is a
>> transceiver and computer combined.  Can anyone point me to info on the
>> net regarding this system?
>> Thanks & 73
>> Robert WB4DHC

>Perhaps you're looking for PacComm?  Try: http://www.paccomm.com/


>--
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From: [e-mail] (Gary L. Johnson)
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Subject: XPWIN Version 1.1.4 now Available
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Program supports AEA, Kantronics, SCS/Paccomm PTC, PTC+ and PTCII and the HAL
P38, PCI4000 and DSP4100.



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Hi im trying to use a Baycomm style modem with an Icom IC-22A and
every time i connect up the PTT line from the modem the
transmitter keys. Ive tried the resistor across the xmit audio
and ptt lines and a resistor in series with the ppt line and it
looks like im gonna end up using a miniature relay to handle
keying. Before i do tho i thought id check and see if anyone else
had run across this problem. Thanks!

                            Art WB9HNJ




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Need to know pinout on standard RS 232 25 pin serial port.
ie which pin is #1, 4, 7.
None of my references shows this info.
                                       Tnx 73
                                       Dick
                                       W3LD
                                       [e-mail]
µ*


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Mike Watson wrote:
>
> Yeah, AEA has closed their doors.  The new MFJ-1278B w/DSP looks good.
> Course, I'm bias. I use a MFJ-1278 (real old model) and I'm well
> satisfied.
> --
> =====================================================================
> Mike Watson, WB0IKT
> Raymore, Missouri, USA
> http://www.sky.net/~crucis
>
>  "Meetings are like fungi---there are more growing in dark, damp
>   corners."
> =====================================================================

The MFJ 1278 w/DSP only has a DSP front end filter. All the decoding is
done the normal analog way. The MFJ may be a perfectly good unit for the
money - it's not, however, in the same class as the SCS or HAL units
that do the decoding with DSP.



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[e-mail] wrote:
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> Need to know pinout on standard RS 232 25 pin serial port.
> ie which pin is #1, 4, 7.
> None of my references shows this info.
>                                        Tnx 73
>                                        Dick
>                                        W3LD
>                                        [e-mail]
> µ*
There are plenty of references around with this info:

1 - Protective ground (usually the shield on the cable)
2 - Transmit data
3 - Receive data
4 - Request to send
5 - Clear to send
6 - Data set ready
7 - Signal ground
8 - Data carrier detect
20 - Data terminal ready
22 - Ring indicator



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>>I have the KPC3, which can be had for about $120 mail order or in a
>>local dealer.    And MFJ sells a cable that is ready to plug in to the
>>HTX202.  It's about $15.

And if you're handy with a soldering iron, here's the schematic for that
cable:


Here's the TNC hook up for the Radio Shack 2m HT:

   TNC                                         Radio
   ===                                         =====

Audio Out  -----------||--------------  Tip of Mic plug
                      C1     |
                             |
PTT Line   ----\/\/\/--------|          Ring of Mic (not connected)
                 R1

Audio In   ---------------------------  Tip of speaker plug

Ground     ---------------------------  Ring of Speaker plug

C1 is a 0.1 mfd capacitor of any type, R1 is 2200 ohms.